abduction and rape?

abduction and rape?

Despite the fact of the improbability of interplanetary travel, it is not impossible. Perhaps there are beings who can travel at very fast speeds and have the technology and the raw materials to build vessels that can travel at near the speed of light or greater. Have such beings come here to abduct people, rape and experiment on them? There have been many reports of abduction and sexual violation by creatures who are small and bald or are white, gray, or green; have big craniums, small chins, large slanted eyes, and pointed or no ears. How does one explain the number of such claims and their similarity? The most reasonable explanation for the accounts being so similar is that they are based on the same movies, the same stories, the same television programs, and the same comic strips.

Alien's Raping Humans, It sound Awfull but i'm sure they mean that they got Probed lol.

Do you think it holds Truth or do you think the mental strain of being abducted by aliens could make you see things that did not happen ?

reply to post by True-seer

sexual violation by creatures

There are suitable parallels in the human experience.

reply to post by LordBucket


Yes but thier is a differance the person in that article chose to have sex with the cow and was not forced to.

Unlikely scenario: the cow held a gun to the kid and forced it upon him.

Likey scenario: the kid willingly made love to the cow lol.

Kind Regards
True-seer

reply to post by True-seer

but thier is a differance the person in that article
chose to have sex with the cow and was not forced to.

...but how did the cow perceive it?

reply to post by True-seer


I don't really think even probing is real. Aliens have the technology to travel FTL and still have to shove a thing up your but? Even we don't have to this anymore, we only do it because the technology is still expensive and because humans are perverts.

Also I don't really believe aliens are stupid enough not to blindfold a person.

Originally posted by True-seer


Alien's Raping Humans

By no means do I think the Book of Enoch was about aliens but that book discusses the 'fallen angels' taking women to have their offspring which were the giants refrenced in the bible.

1 Enoch Chapter 15 And He answered and said to me, and I heard His voice: 'Fear not, Enoch, thou righteous man and scribe of righteousness: approach hither and hear my voice. And go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them: "You should intercede" for men, and not men for you: Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling. And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.] And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.

Originally posted by True-seer
or do you think the mental strain of being abducted by aliens could make you see things that did not happen ?

You make it sound like this is as common as a migraine headache.

You think there's been sufficient studies on this realm?
If not for Budd Hopkins, the late John Mack, David Jacobs and a handful of others, this event doesn't even exist! So do you really think there's a clearinghouse that tallies up the findings and forms a consensuses?

I am an abductee. I know.

Both Hopkins and Jacobs were too busy to take my case (and NASA, Center of Disease Control and Mayo Clinic didn't send me an invite either).

So I went to my own hypnotherapist and she didn't have access to any abduction data bank to compare things to!

So here I wait for observation and debriefing!
(smile)

My long winded reply means......there isn't a formal study on this phenomenon. If there ever is, I'll be one of the first to sign up.

reply to post by One Moment


I don't want to sound offensive, but were you probed ?

Actually I fear any animal with big eyes and prefer to be awake nights, I'm not afraid of the dark etc I just love the night and most nocturnal animals, except the ones with eyes as large or lager than mine, also I fear animals that fear me and stay away.

Just wanted to point out some alien abduction like characteristics of mine. Also it's 4:36 AM here.

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Well if your an abductee then why not use that as a drive to get some database set-up some type of archive.

Originally posted by randel
reply to post by One Moment

 

I don't want to sound offensive, but were you probed ?

Actually I fear any animal with big eyes and prefer to be awake nights, I'm not afraid of the dark etc I just love the night and most nocturnal animals, except the ones with eyes as large or lager than mine, also I fear animals that fear me and stay away.

Just wanted to point out some alien abduction like characteristics of mine. Also it's 4:36 AM here.

I don't know anything during my missing time.

I saw five small aliens in my room, became paralyzed, lost about 3 hours of time, woke up throwing up, received marks on my body, had a bloody nose for nearly six months and many other things.

The fact that you fear animals isn't necessarily indicative of an abduction but seeing you prefer to be awake at night, see how many things you can associate with:


*Have had missing or lost time of any length, especially one hour or more.

*Have been paralyzed in bed with a being in your room.

*Have unusual scars or marks with no possible explanation on how you received them. especially if you have an emotional reaction to them. (i.e. small scoop indentation, straight line scar, scars in roof of mouth. in nose, behind or in ears, or genitals, etc.

*Have seen balls of light or flashes of light in your home or other locations

*Have a memory of flying through the air which could not be a dream.

*Have a "marker memory" that will not go away (i.e.: alien face, examination, needle, table, strange baby, etc.)

*Have seen beams of light outside your home, or come into your room through a window.

*Have had dreams of UFOs, beams of light, or alien beings.

*Have had a UFO sighting or sightings in your life.

*Have a cosmic awareness, an interest in ecology, environment, vegetarianism, or are very socially conscious.

*Have a strong sense of having a mission or important task to perform, without knowing where this compulsion came from.

*Have had unexplainable events occur in your life, and felt strangely anxious afterwards.

*For women only: Have had false pregnancy or missing fetus. (pregnant, and then not)

*Have awoken in another place than where you went to sleep, or don't remember ever going to sleep. (i.e. upside down in bed, or in your car)

*Have had a dream of eyes such as animal eyes (like an owl or deer), or remember seeing an animal looking in at you. Also if you have a fear of eyes.

*Have awoken in the middle of the night startled.

*Have strong reaction to cover of Communion or pictures of aliens. Either an aversion to or being drawn to.

*Have inexplicably strong fears or phobias. (i.e. heights, snakes, spiders, large insects, certain sounds, bright lights, your personal security or being alone).

*Have experienced self-esteem problem much of your life.

*Have seen someone with you become paralyzed, motionless, or frozen in time, especially someone you sleep with.

*Have awoken with marks, burns or bruises which appeared during the night with no explanation on how you could have possibly received them.

*Have had someone in your life who claims to have witnessed a ship or
alien near you or has witnessed you having been missing.

*Have had, at any time, blood or an unusual stain on sheet or pillow, with no explanation of how it got there.

*Have an interest in the subject of UFO sightings or aliens, perhaps compelled to read about it a lot, or an extreme aversion towards the subject.

*Have been suddenly compelled to drive or walk to an out of the way or unknown area.

*Have the feeling of being watched much of the time, especially at night.

*Have had dreams of passing through a closed window or solid wall.

*Have seen a strange fog or haze that should not be there.

*Have heard strange humming or pulsing sounds, and you could not identify the source.

*Have had unusual nose bleeds at any time in your life. Or have awoken with a nose bleed.

*Have awoken with soreness in your genitals which can not be explained.

*Have had back or neck problems, T-3 vertebrae out often, or awoken with an unusual stiffness in any part of the body.

*Have had chronic sinusitis or nasal problems.

*Have had electronics around you go haywire or oddly malfunction with no explanation (such as street lights going out as you walk under them, TV's and radios affected as you move close, etc.).

*Have seen a hooded figure in or near your home, especially next to your bed.

*Have had frequent or sporadic ringing in your ears, especially in one ear.

*Have an unusual fear of doctors or tend to avoid medical treatment.

*Have insomnia or sleep disorders which are puzzling to you.

*Have had dreams of doctors or medical procedures.

*Have frequent or sporadic headaches, especially in the sinus, behind one eye, or in one ear.

*Have the feeling that you are going crazy for even thinking about these sorts of things.

*Have had paranormal or psychic experiences, including intuition.

*Have been prone to compulsive or addictive behavior.

*Have channeled telepathic messages from extraterrestrials.

*Have been afraid of your closet, now or as a child.

*Have had sexual or relationship problems (such as a mysterious "feeling" that you must not become involved in a relationship because it would interfere with "something" important you must do).

*Have to sleep against the wall or must sleep with your bed against a wall.

*Have a difficult time trusting other people. especially authority figures.

*Have had dreams of destruction or catastrophe.

*Have the feeling that you are not supposed to talk about these things, or that you should not talk about them.

*Have tried to resolve these types of problems with little or no success.

*Have many of these traits but can't remember anything about an abduction or alien encounter.

Alien abductions are pure fantasy. My thoughts are that it is some type of mental disorder, a form of sleep paralysis, just looking for attention or it is the brains way of helping someone deal with an ACTUAL occurance in that was very traumatic in thier lives. Like they may have been molested or raped...the person cannot deal with it emotionally so the brain gives them this fantasy as a way to deal with it.

Originally posted by True-seer
reply to post by One Moment

 

Well if your an abductee then why not use that as a drive to get some database set-up some type of archive.

It's not as easy as it sounds.
I tried. I had a web page years ago but it wasn't generating any traffic (and I couldn't/can't afford to advertise on Google).
I even had a basic UFO sightings report page (in NY) and that too, got no where.

It's also hard to authenticate any of this without at least, having a face-to-face conversation. At least that way, you can get a sense of their genuineness. But who can interview millions of us?

And doing it via the Internet is too random and way too iffy. You never know if you're typing to a real abductee, a delusional person from a padded cell or a 12 year old wise ass kid!

Originally posted by kerazeesicko
Alien abductions are pure fantasy. My thoughts are that it is some type of mental disorder, a form of sleep paralysis, just looking for attention or it is the brains way of helping someone deal with an ACTUAL occurance in that was very traumatic in thier lives. Like they may have been molested or raped...the person cannot deal with it emotionally so the brain gives them this fantasy as a way to deal with it.

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reply to post by One Moment


Yeh totally agree but thier must be some-way to do it. Ask around maybe some of the members here could help.

reply to post by One Moment

I am an abductee. I know.

here I wait for observation and debriefing!

There are plenty of people here on ATS willing to offer perspective and advice on this topic. I simply recommend you be specific with your questions, and prepared to discriminate amongst a variety of answers that might not agree with each other.

reply to post by True-seer


There is a possibility that alien abductions may be repressed memories of being raped (or other as unpleasant). In abduction accounts, there is often included the 'anal probing' by aliens.

If people gets raped, and they repress the memory althogether, their uncoscious still remembers the event. But as the conscious memory wishes to repress the images, the memory mix with fantary.

Rapists ideology might seem so distant to the victim, as it would be alien to him/her. Many abduction cases happens to young people - this also may hint that they have fallen victim of sexual pedophilia. The experience may be socially so conflicting, that our unconscious kinda distorts it automaticly. For example, the rapist may not be unknown person, but a relative - hence there will be great mental pressure in the victim, resulting in strange memories of alien abduction. I am not saying that this is the case of all abductions. It is merely possibility.

-v