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reply posted on 24-3-2011 @ 12:26 PM by DISRAELI
reply to post by Maymunah


Thank you for those comments.

I found the Harlot to be a very complex creature.
Apart from the threads mentioned in the post just above yours, which relate her to the political power, to the appeal of idolatry, and to the infidelity of God's own people, there's also a more recent thread which touches on a possible connection with human sin;
Babylon's Wake


reply posted on 8-7-2011 @ 01:06 PM by DISRAELI
reply to post by Godsontoo


I think you may be oversimplifying here. The Harlot of Babylon is a very complicated lady, so she needs to be discussed with a lot of caution.
My response to all questions on the Harlot of Babylon, and the relationship between Babylon and Rome, is contained in the attached threads;

Harlot Babylon; "The Other Woman"

Harlot Babylon; "Mother of Abominations"

Seven kings and an eighth

Harlot Babylon; "Twinned with Rome"

Harlot Babylon; "Drunk with the blood of the Saints"



reply posted on 1-3-2012 @ 03:45 PM by DISRAELI
Originally posted by DISRAELI
... Daniel ch7, which is the place where Daniel sees four great beasts coming up out of the sea. These are always understood to represent four kingdoms, and we can identify most of them with reasonable certainty.

It seems that modern scholars are tending to arrange the four beasts of Daniel ch7 in a different way, viz.;
1 Babylon
2 The Medes
3 The Persians
4 Alexander

To anyone who knows history, this division makes no sense at all. The Medes and the Persians were hardly separate eras in ancient history, any more than “the English empire” and “the Scottish empire” are separate eras in European history. Once there was a Persian dynasty on the throne of the Medes, they went together. Whereas there was nothing particularly “double” and “one leg higher than the other” about the Median empire on its own.

As for the third beast, the rapid movement and four-fold division are a better fit for Alexander’s empire than for the Persians. In any case, the animal with similar features in the supplementary vision of ch8 is explicitly identified as “the king of Greece”, so that really ought to settle the matter.

However, I can understand what’s motivating this modern arrangement. One of the products of the goat is a “little horn”, which scholars want to identify, quite reasonably, with the infamous Antiochus Epiphanes. The fourth beast in ch7 also produces a “little horn”, so scholars jump to the conclusion that this is another reference to Antiochus Epiphanes (which would make the fourth beast Alexander). That reasoning evades the possibility, which seems to provide a more straightforward interpretation, that Daniel is contemplating a second “little horn”, in the more distant future. That “second horn” would be modelled on the infamous king, but not the same person.
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