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Virtually everything seems to be a lie

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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It's the "The-more-I-"know"-the-less-I-know" Syndrome...kinda.
Very articulate explanation about voyaging down the rabbit hole. Bravo.
The damn moon landing/Kubrick thing didn't affect me at first, but I delved further today and...well, chalk up another lie, right? After a while, it does seem like every truth is mulit-layered with deception and manipulation.
It's like an onion. The more layers removed, the more it makes ya wanna cry. Or sumpin' like that.

But I say, bring it on. God bless the peacemakers and truthseekers, and forums like ATS.




posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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When I first saw the Zapruder tape I knew the Official Warren report was a lie. Later when the members on the Warren Commission panel admitted that they weren't gievn the full story, the lie became all to clear!

When I watched the World Trade Center towers fall, I knew in my heart it wasn't the plane crash that did it. When I started following the private investigations, reports and videos, my truth was acknowledged. And, once again when the members on the 911 Commission stated they were lied to and were not given everything the government had, the lie became all to clear.

When I read about the 2 Constitutitions with the change of one word and capitalization and decided to look into it, I knew we'd been duped. When I found out which United States of America our congressmen actually work for, I knew just how corrupt and treasonus the USA and EVERY ONE of our politicians are!

When I look at our last several presidents, after good old Ronnie, I realize that they're not even trying to follow the will of the people, and couldn't give a rats ass about any of us!

And yet we continue down this path like mice in a laboratoy labrynth, blindly chasing the promised reward. Only the final reward is death to us all!



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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Welcome to the Matrix

Have a nice day



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 07:17 PM
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Quite an interesting read ! You put time into this, it shows. SnF.

I believe that the lies/problems of this world englobe three entities. Governments, Religions and Corporations. They stick together, they walk hand in hand, to keep us under control. I hope, that one day, one of these three entities fall. Then maybe, just maybe, the other two will follow the same path. Downhill. It would change the entire way we live in this world.

_____________________________________________________________

Who can you trust? I think the answer is nobody.
_____________________________________________________________


Trust yourself. And ONLY yourself.

~S.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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About 5 years ago I started investigating the 9/11 matter, having swallowed the Official Story for the first four years after the event. After studying the findings of literally hundreds of 9/11 researchers, it is clear to me now that the official 9/11 report from the U.S. Government is not only false but is scientifically impossible.


What exactly in the report is scientifically impossible?



So, that's one pretty big lie, isn't it?


What is?



Then, after studying Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr.'s research, along with William Cooper, Eric Jon Phelps, and others who have devoted their lives to the JFK assassination, it is now clear the U.S. Government lied to us about this too.


What exactly did the U.S Government lie about?



So, this is another pretty big lie too, isn't it?


What is?



Then, I learn about Big Pharma and the FDA committing crimes of such monstrous magnitude that most people simply cannot bring themselves to believe such things to be possible. Imagine folks who would intentionally poison the food, water, and air supply to more rapidly promote illnesses like cancer, heart disease, and Alzheimer's so they can fleece us with expensive medication and treatment until the day we die.


Please be more specific and provide peer-reviewed scientific data to back it up.



This is some major lying too, isn't it?


What is?



It appears that everyone in a key position of power and influence in America and elsewhere must be a criminal to get and keep their job.

When I say criminal, this includes pedophilia, bestiality, even necrophilia. Many of these priests have committed some extremely unacceptable acts with young children. Of course, according to Kay Griggs the men who willingly engage in homosexual sex, group sex orgies, etc. with their fellow officers climb the ladder of success fastest.


The Catholics priests involved in sexual abuse of children are sick individuals. But the Catholic Church does not require you to be a pedophile in order to serve the church as far as I know. I don't know about any beastiality and necrophelia, could you be more specific? Kay Griggs, she's an anti-semite right?



One large camp of researchers believes the Rothschild-led central banking Zionists are at the very top of the World's Most Powerful Criminal Syndicate.


These are the anti-semitic researchers right? The ones that blame Jews for everything that's wrong with the world.



Another camp of researchers believes the Black Pope-led Jesuits are at the very top of this Pyramid of Criminal Power and World Domination. According to Eustace Mullins the Rothschilds formed an alliance with the Jesuits in 1823 when they became the investment banker for the Vatican.


I must say I was disappointed when I found out that "the Black Pope" wasn't even black.



Still another camp of New World Order Conspiracy researchers believes some alien civilization/s have total control over both the Jesuits and Zionists who they simply use to control and enslave human beings.


Yes, the followers of science fiction author David Icke.



Of course, after some five years of research, I have no idea what the real truth actually is. Other than the relatively few folks or alien beings who are actually calling the shots, the vast majority of us do not have a clue.


I doubt the ones "calling the shots" do either.


Are any powerful and/or influential people telling the truth, the whole truth?


I don't know but if they did would you believe them?



Who can you trust? I think the answer is nobody.


Hopefully one can trust ones family and friends, without them ones existance would be pretty bleak.

[edit on 11-7-2010 by cripmeister]



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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Well Said the same lies go as well out about the war of yugoslavia, by cliaming that serbs did the rapes and mass killings are both untruth, they are nothing but more merr media propaganda.

For one instince mr star in jarhead, said this on my thread.



What do you mean? The majority of rapes that occured during the Bosnian-Serb war was committed by Serbs against Muslim women.


then again even the court havent seen such evidence, the only evidence are the western media stories from the muslim side.


There is no evidence to say that serbs committed any of the rapes,


If anyone is interesting to know.


The media came in bosnia before the war even started, atleast that tells you something is wrong with our world.


Alot of western countries have been watching propaganda durning the time of the war.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:09 PM
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Try not to dwell on this or it will make you crazy. Its hard to keep up the facade of hope when you have none anymore. The hardest lies for me personally were, Time, The God of the bible, American freedom, the government would be there in times of tragedy , Disclosure. There are so many lies but for those you love, especially children, you need to make choices. I did. To avoid mass suicide of our youth, perhaps it is best to allow them to believe the lies untill they are older. Tomorrow is promised to no one so..today is all we really have. Its a very hard choice.



Thanks for having the guts to say what I have not. It's the truth. The more you dig, the more lies you find. It's all quite overwhelming. I want my daughter to know the truth, but I worry how much truth is too much? I think it could be easy for young people to become so disenchanted with the world that they would begin to think it's useless to even try to change anything. When will our belief that good triumphs over evil prove to be true? It appears evil is triumphing all around us, and just keeps growing in strength..



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Isn't the truth the opposite of the lie? If you think about all the lies and what the opposite must be


Excellent Point
Let's try this theory out

OS of 9/11 - Lie
Democracy - Lie
The Fed - Lie
Young Earth Creationism - Lie
Evolution - Lie
Hellfire - Lie
Reasons for Wars - Lie

Yup, it gets me closer to the Truth. Only problem is being fully aware doesn't give you the greatest peace of mind, more like you want to throw up, once you finally know more than those that are tuned out to what the true reality we are all facing actually is. But the Truth on any of these matters at least ends your confusion. And yet as I have found out just in the past five years there is always anther layer of truth waiting to be discovered.






[edit on 11-7-2010 by Blue_Jay33]



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by SonoftheSun
reply to post by bwinwright
 


Quite an interesting read ! You put time into this, it shows. SnF.

I believe that the lies/problems of this world englobe three entities. Governments, Religions and Corporations. They stick together, they walk hand in hand, to keep us under control. I hope, that one day, one of these three entities fall. Then maybe, just maybe, the other two will follow the same path. Downhill. It would change the entire way we live in this world.

_____________________________________________________________

Who can you trust? I think the answer is nobody.
_____________________________________________________________


Trust yourself. And ONLY yourself.

~S.


Exactly my though



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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Well said my friend. Indeed you can't trust anyone these days. Your own family will stab you in the back if there are some dollars involved. It is quite sad what the world has become and money really seems to be the root of the problem.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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About 5 years ago I started investigating the 9/11 matter, having swallowed the Official Story for the first four years after the event. After studying the findings of literally hundreds of 9/11 researchers, it is clear to me now that the official 9/11 report from the U.S. Government is not only false but is scientifically impossible.

What exactly in the report is scientifically impossible?

So, that's one pretty big lie, isn't it?

What is?

Then, after studying Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr.'s research, along with William Cooper, Eric Jon Phelps, and others who have devoted their lives to the JFK assassination, it is now clear the U.S. Government lied to us about this too. What exactly did the U.S Government lie about? So, this is another pretty big lie too, isn't it?

What is?

Then, I learn about Big Pharma and the FDA committing crimes of such monstrous magnitude that most people simply cannot bring themselves to believe such things to be possible. Imagine folks who would intentionally poison the food, water, and air supply to more rapidly promote illnesses like cancer, heart disease, and Alzheimer's so they can fleece us with expensive medication and treatment until the day we die. Please be more specific and provide peer-reviewed scientific data to back it up.



How about this, Cripmeister . . . why don't you stop trying using the same old worn out inquiries to try to disprove things that any sane person with a brain knows are true. If you don't believe these things, then you should do some research. If the OP has come to the above conclusions, it appears he has done his.

You should know that government attempts to derail forums have become an exercise in futility given our growing intolerance to their cover-ups. Stop trying to make the OP out to be ignorant--it's backfiring on you.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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When I look at our last several presidents, after good old Ronnie, I realize that they're not even trying to follow the will of the people, and couldn't give a rats ass about any of us!


I agree, but I think the last president who truly worked for the good of the American people was Kennedy. After that, we've been lead by nothing more than puppets. Reagan was one, too, although I think he truly did care about America, he knew he had no power.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by stigup
Well said my friend. Indeed you can't trust anyone these days. Your own family will stab you in the back if there are some dollars involved. It is quite sad what the world has become and money really seems to be the root of the problem.


Family is the worst in my sense. I did not choose my family but I choose my friends.

Twice I saw members of my family ( hunts and uncles ) having a huge dispute about there parents will(succession) and there not even passed away ! When my grand parents died, the battle started and the family got split, never ad another christmas are some kind of great party with all member present. The funny thing is that were fighting for the money and they were all pretty wealthy and comfortable in there life still. This was madness ! That pretty much where I first understood what creed was all about.

If a family member can act this way, imagine some guy in an office making decision, tweaking stuff with lies for is own benefits are the benefits of "is team".

One human can be quite nice and extraordinary, group them( religion, politics ...etc ) and you get the worst out of then.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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Its pretty funny how it all ads up, it seems the more i learn the more i realize the less i truly know. Why are there so many lies or cover ups ?



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 09:37 PM
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Lots of things are lies.

Lots are not.

Its disturbing that people automatically assume everything they hear is a lie and call it conspiracy theory.

I cringe every time I hear the words 'false flag'.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 09:40 PM
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The whole purpose of all these lies and conspiracies is to distract US.

TPTB (aka: The-Haves) need US (aka: The-Have-Nots) to be distracted with lies such as racism, bogus history books, politics, UFO's, 9-11, etc, etc, etc, so that The-Have-Nots do not wake up and realize that we are ALL ONE and the SAME. Everything that exists within this Universe is just "Another Part of Me."

As long as TPTB can keep us in the dark so we continue to sleep, THEY can continue to play their games.

The truth is: "Love is all you need" (Beatles - Lennon: killed), "You're just another part of me" (Michael Jackson: killed) and "Love is all that matters" (Eric Carmen: irrelevant)

It's a simple as that and TPTB need to keep us from realizing it at our core, otherwise, TPTB become irrelevant when we stop watching tv, listening to the radio, reading newspapers and buying the latest gadgets.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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COME ON! HOW CAN THIS BE A LIE!!



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 10:02 PM
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EVERY THING I SAY IS A LIE!
ooops
I stole that lie(n) from Star Trik
Capn Krook had to cause a mechanicle brain to splode.

Interesting that this worked like two mirrors facing each other.

I see lots of people every day that wouldn't touch the truth with a ten foot pole...remember Mars Attacks?



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 10:04 PM
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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 10:07 PM
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How about this, Cripmeister . . . why don't you stop trying using the same old worn out inquiries to try to disprove things that any sane person with a brain knows are true. If you don't believe these things, then you should do some research. If the OP has come to the above conclusions, it appears he has done his.


I'm asking questions, what's wrong with that?



You should know that government attempts to derail forums have become an exercise in futility given our growing intolerance to their cover-ups. Stop trying to make the OP out to be ignorant--it's backfiring on you.


Wait a minute, government attempts to derail? Are you accusing me of being a dis-info agent?



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