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Virtually everything seems to be a lie

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:35 AM
About 5 years ago I started investigating the 9/11 matter, having swallowed the Official Story for the first four years after the event. After studying the findings of literally hundreds of 9/11 researchers, it is clear to me now that the official 9/11 report from the U.S. Government is not only false but is scientifically impossible.

So, that's one pretty big lie, isn't it?

Then, after studying Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr.'s research, along with William Cooper, Eric Jon Phelps, and others who have devoted their lives to the JFK assassination, it is now clear the U.S. Government lied to us about this too.

So, this is another pretty big lie too, isn't it?

Then, I learn about Big Pharma and the FDA committing crimes of such monstrous magnitude that most people simply cannot bring themselves to believe such things to be possible. Imagine folks who would intentionally poison the food, water, and air supply to more rapidly promote illnesses like cancer, heart disease, and Alzheimer's so they can fleece us with expensive medication and treatment until the day we die.

This is some major lying too, isn't it?

Then, there are all the fraudulent wars for profit, based entirely on lies and deception, the lies and deception of the central bankers and their investment firms on Wall Street, and more. It appears that everyone in a key position of power and influence in America and elsewhere must be a criminal to get and keep their job.

When I say criminal, this includes pedophilia, bestiality, even necrophilia. Many of these priests have committed some extremely unacceptable acts with young children. Of course, according to Kay Griggs the men who willingly engage in homosexual sex, group sex orgies, etc. with their fellow officers climb the ladder of success fastest.

One large camp of researchers believes the Rothschild-led central banking Zionists
are at the very top of the World's Most Powerful Criminal Syndicate.

Another camp of researchers believes the Black Pope-led Jesuits are at the very top of this Pyramid of Criminal Power and World Domination. According to Eustace Mullins the Rothschilds formed an alliance with the Jesuits in 1823 when they became the investment banker for the Vatican.

Still another camp of New World Order Conspiracy researchers believes some alien civilization/s have total control over both the Jesuits and Zionists who they simply use to control and enslave human beings.

Of course, after some five years of research, I have no idea what the real truth actually is. Other than the relatively few folks or alien beings who are actually calling the shots, the vast majority of us do not have a clue.

Are any powerful and/or influential people telling the truth, the whole truth?

Who can you trust? I think the answer is nobody.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:41 AM
I'm not sure that if I had a week I could have stated this as clearly as you!
You just layed out the point of view of the majority of ATS'ers, and quite nicely at that.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:51 AM
Everything presented to you is fake, fabricated, phoney. Let's add some more to that list:
Mr. president of Kenya's birth certificate
Mr. president of Kenya's Nobel Peace Prize
911 hijackers
the passports
INS border patrol
CIA cocane plane crashes and "War on Drugs"
the pandemics
Colin Powel and Sadam's Weapons of Mass Destruction
Swine Flu and the "State of Emergency"
the safety of the Swine Flu Vaccine
the moon landing photos
"denying ignorance"
the Mods
this internet forum
all the masons on this forum
the spooks on this forum
realestate valuations
the constitution of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (all caps)
your rights


posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:54 AM
S&F op, this is how ATS opened my eyes, lies are all around us, the problem is greed and religion, in my opinion the military industrial complex calls the shots in the U.S., not on everything of course like health care, but the bigger grander things, like going into Iraq, who do you thinks making money off that when the country is digging itself a whole of debt, they are, they like selling armor, bullets, guns, tanks, planes, and any other war machine you can think of, thats why I don't pay that much attention to politics anymore, because they don't run the country, their is an entity behind the scenes that does, and I think it is the military industrial complex!

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:58 AM
Great info on the lies - now tell me how do we find the truth?

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:09 PM
As has always been true for mankind -
You have a mind, it is your responsibility to develope it, take care of it, and use it to its best ability

A baby first opens its eyes and the brain recieves vision UPSIDE down
and must learn to adjust.
Carry on
This is an ages old battle.

[edit on 11-7-2010 by Danbones]

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:14 PM
reply to post by Danbones


Well said! Not everything is fake (just most is!)

To the OP always be alert, always question, then question again and then have a fallback position.

That said, I've been fortunate to meet and work with honest, deep and questioning people - not the world's makers and shaker but good people nonetheless who ae certainly not false.


posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:15 PM
reply to post by bwinwright

Absolutely right. Pretty frightening and quite enraging once you close your eyes to see.

Nothing is as it appears and we're finally seeing this collectively as a modern-day species.

Science is ignorance.
Religions are arrogance.
Schools/institutions reform.
Governments conform.

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:22 PM
the reality is that we live in a freaking prison where some people do anything they want in a bad way, while others live like slaves, accepting everything

the thing is that, there is no way to fix it, NO WAY!

we live already in a "democracy", its impossible to avoid these criminals in a democracy, simply because they have the money and they can buy whoever they want

so, we must accept that we live in a prison and hope that this is all a bad dream

the only way to fix everything would be dictatorship, if the right person is out there, but thats another problem right ...

when will we wake up?

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:23 PM
reply to post by The Wave

Sharing the search with good people is one of the best things that can happen..
Oddly enough though, facing opposite views is good too...

I guess, as they say, it is all what you make it.

Dunno 'bout any one else, but that is why I hang out in places like this

edit edit edit for backwards spellin lol
[edit on 11-7-2010 by Danbones]

[edit on 11-7-2010 by Danbones]

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:25 PM
reply to post by bwinwright

Try not to dwell on this or it will make you crazy. Its hard to keep up the facade of hope when you have none anymore. The hardest lies for me personally were, Time, The God of the bible, American freedom, the government would be there in times of tragedy , Disclosure. There are so many lies but for those you love, especially children, you need to make choices. I did. To avoid mass suicide of our youth, perhaps it is best to allow them to believe the lies untill they are older. Tomorrow is promised to no one is all we really have. Its a very hard choice.

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:25 PM
Welcome to reality and free will, all the people that are in power have free will to lie to every one.

1 Is that the people allow it.
2 Is the people use it.
3 We all except it as part of life.
4 The truth is just a by product of the events but not the most used version.
5 A lie is a reality all of it's own, and it lives and breaths it's own reality.
6 It's always a choice to what to believe, but you have that choice and that is what life is all about.

[edit on 11-7-2010 by jsettica]

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:31 PM
reply to post by XxRagingxPandaxX

read this thread dude- Tax Day April 15, 2010 the London Banker’s Celebration of the Anniversary of Lincoln’s Death-

this is worth bearing in mind- Presidential Bloodlines-

if you haven't seen it, you nEEd to watch- The Esoteric Agenda- its on for about 2 n a half hours, but well worth a watch. its the mutts nuts!

for anyone that feels like all hope is lost at this critical moment in our time, this is worth bearing in mind-

peace out

[edit on 11:11 by WHOS READY]

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:36 PM
reply to post by Danbones

hi Danbones,

Couldn't agree more. I have known many great friends who held totally opposite views but taught me so much (and hopefully, they gained too?).

To the OP's origjinal concern - yes, overall it is a pack of lies but... we must go foreward....step by step. Pyramids last 2 to 3 thousand years as they are buiilt on a solid foundation, tall empty office blocks won't!


posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:48 PM
Great thread OP

Thats the thing that gets many people i think, when they too begin their research path..once one realizes that a couple major things in life they always took to be factual (the moon landing, the government here to represent and word for the people, freedom itself turns out to be a lie told to keep people imprisoned -there are none so trapped as those who think they are free- i believe the saying goes)?
Once these and many other examples of lies we have all been fed since birth onwards, are seen, everything then begins to be questioned and suspiciously looked at, it can make a person very, very paranoid..confused and completely lost as to what IS true in this world.. is anything real like we have believed? and the problem is, no one knows.. and if some small group of super humans have such answers they arent sharing them with us! we dont know what is true, what is not true, nor do we know who to trust, or how to avoid those we cant.. trust becomes lost very easily and is not earned again with that ease.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:56 PM
Forget everything you've ever been told by "them". They are: everybody. The one you can trust, once you can hear it again is: your heart. That's the only single source of info you need. All answers are there. All truth is there.

Didn't anybody get at all suspicious when Bush started ranting about "America" and "patriotism"? Didn't you guys feel the fear osmosis into your every cell of your body? How could you not? Release that fear. Release it and breathe deeply. Take your freedom back with every breath. Never let go of that feeling. Never let them fool you again.

The next most important thing you can do is to love. Love everybody around you, including all the other illegal aliens who have as much right to be there as you do. Love them. Love everything. Practice this and all the lies fall away.

I know all this sounds like the rantings of an old hippy. True enough! But I'm still right.

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:18 PM
I firmly believe that you should believe the person(s) that not always tell you what you want to hear , but those who tell it like it is whomever it may upset.

Ron Paul 2012!

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:20 PM

Originally posted by bwinwright
Who can you trust? I think the answer is nobody.

Absolutely true. Someone from long ago said the same to me: He doesn't trust anyone and he is a speculator, by the way.

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:35 PM
"Release that fear. Release it and breathe deeply. Take your freedom back with every breath."

posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:46 PM

Illuminati Predicitive Programming Movie ''Knowing" BP Oil Spill

movie made way before bp oil splii

wake uppp

or sleep

the world we are leaving on is fake and full of illussion for you so cant see nothing

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