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Topic started on 15-6-2004 @ 05:38 PM by madmartinez
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im sorry if this is in the wrong place
but ive heard many things about delta force saying the unit doesnt exist and so on ? does this hardcore unit exist or not ?
many of the SAS books ive read have mentioned them and state how they have backed them up and stuff but still from wot ive read the us have said these
boys dont exist.
but then again they said area 51 didnt exist so i dunno where i am ???
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reply posted on 15-6-2004 @ 05:56 PM by devilwasp
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they do exsist
its the US amry's elite special forces unit
very professinal lads they are
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reply posted on 15-6-2004 @ 06:09 PM by jekyllisland
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aren't they trained in anti-terrorist tactics.
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reply posted on 15-6-2004 @ 06:52 PM by WestPoint23
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they do exist they were in panama and somalia and they are trained in counter terrorism and urban warfare.
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 07:57 AM by ghost
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Delta Force is very real! They are a top secret, elite counter terrorist force!
Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 08:07 AM by wolve
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 08:53 AM by wararts
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Originally posted by devilwasp
they do exsist
its the US amry's elite special forces unit
very professinal lads they are
in another thread you said the gurkas are the best killers...who are they......
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 09:32 AM by gooking
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They exist. The reason why the U.S. govt. denies their existance is because they're suppose to be super top secret.
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 09:37 AM by DeltaNine
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They didn't exist.
Then they did exist.
Now they don't exist again.
You could get very pedantic and say it doesnt exist, because it's known as CAG now.
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 09:41 AM by browha
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Delta Force do exist, they were created because of the difference in capabilities between the SAS/SBS and US Special Forces.
They are, supposedly, hand-picked out of SEALs, Green Berets, Rangers, etc.
They were originially modelled around the SAS, including selection course, but lack of fitness has changed this greatly (originally their selection
course was virutally identical to the SAS one, but then was changed because they were not getting enough people passing)
It is, however, I believe, exempt from the rule meaning that military forces are exempt from use for personal gain!
However, I am not sure about this.
They are very good hit-and-run type units, acting on the element of surprise, but unable to survive in the field for more than a couple days without
constant resupplies!
They are, however, extremely well trained, unlike the majority of the American army, and do have competitive exercises with the SAS (of which the SAS
normally come out on top!)
None-the-less, they are a strong unit. I believe they are, unfortunately, a recruiting ground for the super-top-secret Grey Fox unit (as it was called
in 2002, not sure about the name now) also known as Task Force 121
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 09:46 AM by mpeake
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Of course Delta Force exists. Just ask Chuck Norris.
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 12:48 PM by devilwasp
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the gurkas are some men from napal that fight for britain
veery efficient men
they do thier stuff and the SAS stuff
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 01:07 PM by COOL HAND
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Originally posted by browha
Delta Force do exist, they were created because of the difference in capabilities between the SAS/SBS and US Special Forces.
They are, supposedly, hand-picked out of SEALs, Green Berets, Rangers, etc.
Wrong, they are not hand picked. They go through a selection process just like anyone else. The Navy guys do exchange duty with them, which is on a
volunteer basis.
They were originially modelled around the SAS, including selection course, but lack of fitness has changed this greatly (originally their selection
course was virutally identical to the SAS one, but then was changed because they were not getting enough people passing)
Wrong again. If anything it has gotten more physically demanding as time has gone by. The same can be said for all American SF teams. The physical
requirements have gone up for them and this has forced them to increase their standards.
It is, however, I believe, exempt from the rule meaning that military forces are exempt from use for personal gain!
However, I am not sure about this.
Wrong again.
They are very good hit-and-run type units, acting on the element of surprise, but unable to survive in the field for more than a couple days without
constant resupplies!
Wrong again. Delta is designed to be able to have units conducts patrols and recon for up to one month if need be. They take all the gear with them
that they will need and do not expect resupply.
They are, however, extremely well trained, unlike the majority of the
American army, and do have competitive exercises with the SAS (of which the SAS normally come out on top!)
Wrong again (I sound like a broken record). There are no competitive exercises between Delta and the SAS. Whoever is telling you that is a liar.
There are numerous cases of joint training, but the guys that are in those teams do not give two flying sh*ts about competitive exercises.
None-the-less, they are a strong unit. I believe they are, unfortunately, a recruiting ground for the super-top-secret Grey Fox unit (as it was called
in 2002, not sure about the name now) also known as Task Force 121
Why is it unfortunate for them to be a recruiting ground? BTW the name of the unit has changed again.
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 02:41 PM by browha
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Hand picked, ok, sorry, I did contradict myself in the statement.
The Delta Force was modelled on the SAS, including selection process, but the standards were initially lowered because of the low rate of men passing
through (a low level of fitness, compared to the SAS, whereas the requirements are more power focused).
As I said, I wasnt sure about the rule exempt for personal gain, I read it in a book in such a way that it seemed factually correct, but I havent
confirmed it.
SAS are trained to live off the land, rations are obviously prefable, but when necessary, they can live off the land easily
The competitive exercises are well documented in many SAS biographies, joint-operations training.
I know the name of the unit has changed again, which is why I said I am not sure about the name now... I find it unfortunate that there is a continual
poaching of each other's top soldiers.. Whereas in the British Special Forces, you go into the SAS, and that's it. You get trained to the top level,
and there is no poaching from that....
edit: I've just been informed that Delta do not allow SEALs to go for selection by U2U from a member who tried to join the SEALs
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 02:53 PM by wararts
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devilwasp..thanks for the info,,so they are better than sas??......
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 03:02 PM by browha
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Ghurkas.. are... different
They are tough little b******s!
Some do get into the SAS if they try, but generally, they are the hardest fighting force in the world, e.g. you wont get one alive
they are dedicated to the cause basically, and the british army treats them like shyte (Esp during world war two)..
I'd prefer the SAS on my side, but in like a non-special situation eg ordinary combat, I think they'd rate up to similar to the SAS, as they live
around the Nepal area, naturally fit through mountain trekking, etc
edit: Urban legend or myth, not sure, there is one village where you are basically training from birth to be in the British Army and if you dont you
basically get exiled =p
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 03:13 PM by wararts
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browha thanks for the info....
if this village you mentioned does exist,, them dudes must be like war machines.....scary stuff.
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 03:14 PM by browha
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Yup yup! Gurkhas have been in the heart of almost all british action since they joined the British army (I would guess around the 1800s)
They are our finest soldiers!
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 03:20 PM by wararts
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well..i would think that if something like this was going on..it would be kept a secret..4 sure.
cause then other nations would have to try and catch up.
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reply posted on 16-6-2004 @ 03:23 PM by browha
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Ghurkas are not secret! They are openly admitted by the government, as they are simply regular troops.
They live (lived, perhaps?) in a British colony and as such are only entitled to serve in the British army unless they obtain citizenship from
another country.
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