posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 06:46 AM
OK, so usually I use Disclose.tv (Which has become a hole for pious "Christian" zealots to post on) but decided to finally join ATS because of this
Here is what I have to say on the matter of "Proof".
There is NONE.
There is evidence which "indicates" that craft/vehicles of sorts is being controlled intelligently. This does not prove that Aliens OR the
Government/Military are controlling them though.
There is also evidence indicating that people are having experiences which lead them to believe that other worldly beings are interfering with human
existence but this is not proof.
There is historical documentation which could be interpreted to indicate the visitation of other worldly beings but since these can be interpreted in
other fashions, it is again, not proof.
There are also radio transmissions (WOW) and other visible data (radar/video), that indicate that things are invading airspace or are intelligently
creating signals. However, again, not proof.
Does this make the whole subject ripe for scrutiny? Of course it does. Does it make it invalid? Absoloutely not.
The search for Aliens or the truth behind UFOs is equally as important as the truths behind religions and should be studied as such. People should
discuss and question all evidence and like religion, should make their minds up accordingly.
Here is my personal opinion on the matter (which I'm sure no one actually cares about but meh... so what)
The universe is undeniably massive. Approximately 13.75bn years old. Galaxies were forming after a few million years (as recent telescope data
suggests). Our personal little corner, on the arm of the spiral galaxy, the milky way, is approximately 4bn years old. This leaves us with around
9.75bn years where other planets/stars/civilisations could rise and fall. We have only been around in our current form (using accepted
scientific/historical theory) for about 200,000 years, whilst basic life has existed for about 1.5-2bn years and our currently advanced stage of
civilisation has taken approximately 10,000 - 5000 years to develop. So... We are very very young by the universal comparison.
If, let's say, even ten stars in the universe manage to make it to that stage, and five are taken out of the equation by natural disasters or destroy
themselves, that leaves five that could potentially evolve and advance way beyond us. If this happened even 1000 years before us, that would mean that
there is a civilisation out there somewhere that is 1000 years more intellecutally developed than us. Now let's add some zeros. If a civilisation is
1,000,000 years more advanced, what is to say they haven't found a way around universal constants? (And infact, if you read "13 things that don't
make sense" you will realise that universal constants could be incorrect and infact could be varying constants) They could see us like we see the
fruit fly or the chimp. It is actually LIKELY that something would visit us to study us.
So... yes.. I believe that Aliens exist. I believe that it is LIKELY they visit us and study us, but I am not certain and have no proof. I just look
at the evidence indicating the plausability and make my conclusions based on that.
The problem arises when people post pathetic photos of clearly home made ufos (Adamski - I work in VFX and can tell you, his photos are fake. The
scale/blurring/reflections etc are completely wrong), or start talking about psychic visitations (ala. Edgar Cayce, John Lear). This does not lend
credibility to the subject.
In conclusion, to the person that started this thread... Before you start slating everything, do your research and come to realise that whilst there
is no proof, there is evidence indicating that it happens and scientific fact to back up the plausibility. Until you personally see a UFO or Alien,
you will always be skeptical, just don't be completely closed minded!