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Show us ONE, just one UFO pic or ANY evidence that can be proven as evidence of visitation.

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posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by Blazer
That being said, I do find it strange that in this day and age, when almost everyone has a cellphone that can take pictures, and quite a few smartphones that can record 720p high def video, catch every split second celebrity nip slip, LOLcats, etc, but yet not one clear definitive picture or video of an unearthly UFO or E.T.

Hi Blazer,

I think the most obvious answer to this is that true UFO events are rare and those involving low-hovering objects are even rarer. This makes sense considering most UFO events involve misidentifications, etc. So only a low percentage of sightings might involve a real UFO and of those cases only very few involve objects close to the observer. In short, I do not believe that UFOs are here in the thousands flying daily over cities, etc.

The quality of smartphones is not that good in any case, especially since they tend to lack optical zoom and a good quality lens. And not everyone carries a smartphone yet, I know plenty of people and friends who have just a basic phone because they do not need all the gadgets. I tend to carry with me all the time a high quality Canon HD camera though, just in case I might spot a UFO. Hey, you never know.


That said, there are a number of photos which clearly show disc-like craft, like this one here examined by Dr. Haines (quality of the photo is very poor in this PDF scan though).

[edit on 13-7-2010 by jclmavg]




posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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belivers arn't interested in the truth theyre more interested in confirming their belief system. Theyre not objective or able to think critically. The proof is in this thread.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by yeti101
belivers arn't interested in the truth theyre more interested in confirming their belief system. Theyre not objective or able to think critically. The proof is in this thread.

Yawn. If anything the thread illustrates that pseudo-skepticism runs equally rampant. Though I will have to admit the gullibility factor is quite high among some members.

Of course self-proclaimed skeptics believe they are objective and able to think critically. Too bad they're just as human as the rest of us.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 07:41 AM
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belivers arn't interested in the truth theyre more interested in confirming their belief system. Theyre not objective or able to think critically. The proof is in this thread.


You realize what a convoluted argument this is? It can be turned around.

Naysayers are not interested in the truth they're more interested in confirming their belief system. They are not objective or able to think critically. The proof is in this thread.

...and if either side has a firm predetermined belief system, almost a brainwashing, that is very hard to upend ...it is the naysayers.
The believers have already accepted and digested the new information and are able to run with it.



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posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 07:46 AM
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Hello,

i want only re-submit to your attention this well supported case.

Read full report HERE.

PDF

I has been fully analyzed and it's full of with qualified witnesses...

although UFO acronym doesn't mean ALIEN origin, i think
it's worth reading for whom don't know the case.

Sorry for my poor english, it isn't my mother language.
Have a nice day.


[edit on 13-7-2010 by puritytest]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 08:00 AM
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Your English is just fine!

There are plenty of unexplained (and well-researched) cases out there, including Stephenville. But, in the end, that is all they are... Just unexplained.

When just one case is adequately explained as ALIEN VISITORS

....

Then yes, we can say "They are out there, hell they are here!".

[edit on 13-7-2010 by butcherguy]



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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sorry pal but the anomaly can be just that , an anomaly and the whole andromeda site which you sent the link for is well lets just say for use of a better term less tha reputable.
I have checked a few more sources and found the chap alex collier to have a facinating story that I cannot prove or disprove and will not sit here and try to.
But at the end of the day it comes down to second hand information which I have stated in previous posts is not hard evidence , while some may ask the question what would he have to gain from such a story , well he seems to have made a bit of money from it so personally im inclined to question it as I would with any so called truth which makes a profit.
While I understand how scienctific achievement is filtered through to the public domain I myself find it laughable to think the so called powers that be covering this up or if its true letting it leak.
now you yourself are actually claiming to be ET based on the data on that website , sorry no sale when it comes to genetics we do our own research ad make our own data becuase quite frankly if I wanted to I could sit and write out code for silicon based life paste it onto a similar site and claim to have found another form of life but even if it were true and I had found it I would have to provide samples for indipendent analasys . you have no idea how many independent parties came to validate our own work on the genome .
And to be hoest I find your claim that I could learn from you quite arrogant given the data you seem to working from.
If you are ET or you know ETs then come find me or like minded individuals that can validate your claim before setting up a none the less impressive website and great story . Once again I shal state IF PEOPLE WANT UFOLOGY TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WE MUST TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OURSELVES

this is the last time i respond to someone claiming to be from another planet by the way
and please excuse the typos I spilt latte o my keyboard and n and m are a bit stuck



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by RUDDD49
The Mars rock found in Antarctica which scientists found to contain fossilised Microbacterial life from Mars.

Sorry its not Grey Aliens in city-sized spaceships, but noone ever promised you that. You wanted proof of Alien visitation, well there you go.


youre right no ones even considered it o that level . I actually think you may have just asweared the thread just not how they were expecting.
very good point buddy, even though i havent heard of it but i will have a look now



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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hi rusethorcain, i might also add pro ufo websites dont seem to be interested in the truth either. I can prove it and show why taking anything they publish at face value is a big mistake.

earlier in this thread we had a poster list their top 10 most convincing ufo cases. Now being their top 10 out of thousands you must think they researched them carefully , investigated all the details and came to the conclusion they were the best. Number 10 on their list was the mexico air force 2004 ufos. This case is also STILL listed today on pro ufo websites. They sight the IR footage from the plane , pilot testimony, radar data and conclude its unexplainable.

The story was carried by all major news outlets including bbc etc. Heres the bbc link news.bbc.co.uk... you can also find news reports from the time at youtube.

The real cause of these lights has been known since 2004 the best source of information is here. www.alcione.org...

Its been proven the lights were the flames from the oil rigs and this information is widely available on the internet. Why then do pro ufo/ ETH websites still list this case on their pages? The real cause has been known for 6 years, what conclusions can we draw about people who site this case & websites who keep it on their pages as a ufo incident?

1. Eager believers very rarely check any other source apart from pro ufo websites. They take what is printed there and accept it as fact with no other investigation or checking. Theyre happy their beliefs are confirmed and leave it there.

2. Pro ufo/ ETH websites dont do any checking or investigating either. Or if they do they ignore the evidence and only publish the version which suits their agenda.

This is why you cannot trust any pro UFO/ETH website alone. Theyre not objective investigators or worse just plain frauds not interested in the truth



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 08:43 AM
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Yes everything you say here is true...but a couple of bad apples don't spoil the whole bunch... in this field of study.
We still have thousands upon thousands of really good apples that have not been discarded as natural or hoaxes.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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no im sorry you dont. The only good ones are the ones where theres insufficient information or data to come to a conclusion and belivers fill in the blanks with their ETH. Most ufo cases have an alternative prosaic explanation which is far more likely than aliens in spaceships.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by OldDragger

EVERY one of you that "believes' does so on faith, not reason or science.
So, I challenge you! Steer me to just ONE, just ONE bit of proof!



Your problem isn't that there aren't any true pictures of extraordinary technologies "visiting" the general (and for my taste, quite too undeveloped) population, your problem is that they also have to be verified by channels YOU deem as trustworthy, even though none of those channels consist of people YOU have verified personally to be truthful.. A key phrase most official people use is: "you only trust the news up until you become one yourself" .. And .. IF your source for REAL information only is from "accredited news", you won't be hearing ANYTHING about aliens until the agenda for it's presentation clicks into timelock and you, as a human collective, are deemed old enough to know how the universe is patterned without feeling the need to abuse that knowledge or worse, completely misunderstand it.

For instance, it's completely true that "The Illuminati" have "enslaved" most of humanitt. what isn't true is that it happened without humanitys conscent.
If we released all the available informaiton about the illuminati right here and right now you all would probably seek them up and kill them, and that simply is not an option since everyone also needs to understand WHY they have been doing it, and that reason is, at the moment, bigger than most humans current emotional deveolopement have the ability to grasp.. So we simply don't tell you just yet.


You also need to learn that a neighbor wanting to kill you to protect his kids is no different from you wanting to kill him to protect YOUR kids. If ya'll just stop killing your neghbors no kids will even have the need of protection since a neghborhood without pissed neighbors is generally seen to be a safe place.

About UFO's and stuff. you don't know me but i'll tell you anyway.
Well .. Some of them are from way away but most of them are not, most crafts we see on earth right now are launched from planets within our solar system and those round'ish non glowing ones are actually even man made, I've been on one once when i was very young (i wouldn't call it an abduction). It felt very surreal since their choice of propulsion also distrupts ones perception of time.

Anyway, They are simpoly here to get you used to the idea of earth as an intergalactic hub of information exchange. If you only knew how much sweet stuff that's been stored in your genes... I could almost eat you.


The date for the official contact isn't set yet but the goal is that it'll happen this year, and it'll probably involve a nice lightshow from the bluebeam project in conjunction with haarp since the tension have been building for so long so people aren't gonna accept anything else than something grandious, and who are we not to give them what they want. We've always been here to give you anything you want. The psychological lesson for that is: be careful what you wish for.

When the date is set, your ACCEPTED official news channel will do a nice exclusive, designed specifically for YOUR mind. I'll probably watch the show as well even though it's no real fun since i've known this stuff since i was a child anyway..


Have faith brother, soon you will get your REAL pictures. They won't be, but you will BELIVE they're real, and that's all that really counts.



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posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by yeti101
reply to post by rusethorcain
 


no im sorry you dont. The only good ones are the ones where theres insufficient information or data to come to a conclusion and belivers fill in the blanks with their ETH. Most ufo cases have an alternative prosaic explanation which is far more likely than aliens in spaceships.



I really think you should get around the web more and you would see how wrong you are with this statement. Happy discoveries.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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If you know that there is no proof for the population at the moment regarding EBEs visiting, why bother starting a thread that demands some? Sounds like you're just being beligerant with the holier than thou attitude.

No one is saying that you have to, or even should believe. Why are you seemingly upset with what people BELIEVE?

Maybe you'd be better off taking your attitude out on religous fanatics. They have weaker arguments to attack.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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Hi guys, I am new here as I was googling for related information to what I experienced last week and came across this site.

Sorry if I am posting in the wrong thread, and first of all I would like to say that the following doesn't mean I am a hard believer in aliens, UFOs and such, I am only wondering what is it that I have seen last Friday over London, UK, be it UFOs (after all, it only means "unidentified flying objects" that I could not identify myself), chinese lanterns or whatever. I am an open-minded person just trying to find an explanation to what I have seen as I couldn't find anything about it in the news.

So, here we go:

Me and my wife have witnessed what we are enclined to call a UFO sighting over London, UK, on Friday night (9 July 2010).

It happened approximately between 10.30pm and 11pm, there were loads of them (maybe about a hundred in total or more) coming from South West flying over London and disappearing to the North East for about 30mn in total.

They looked like orange lights flying fast and high, we thought it could be balloons or chinese lanterns but there wasn't a strong wind that night to explain their speed and directions: they seemed to go high first on the South West, some looking like dancing with each other, and then crossing straight over London to the North East at fast speed.

We caught it on camcorder and have posted the footage on youtube, in three parts (the video is not edited and is exactly as we have shot it, I am no special FX specialist whatsoever):

Part 1:


Part 2:


Part 3:


Please let me know if anyone else here have seen the same thing that we did on that night, maybe they are just lanterns but I haven't heard anything about it in the news and find it a bit strange that someone could have obtained some special permission to release so many of these over the city, when the air traffic was still quite busy with helicopters and airplanes descending to Heathrow or the City Airport at that time.

I suppose we will know more about this in the news soon, as I guess we are probably not the only ones to have witnessed that.

Best Regards



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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by around the web do you mean pro ufo/eth websites? ive already demonstrated how unreliable they are. Ive yet to find a ufo case where these websites dont leave out information, the info they leave out usually points to an alternative prosaic explanation.Why are they so dishonest? why dont they give a balanced objective view and include all the evidence? Its becuase theyre not interested in the truth.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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It's not about proof "at the moment" of alien visitation, it's about the FACT that after 60 YEARS of intense interest there is no proof. We are not ONE STEP closer to confirming alien visiation!!
Doesn't that give any of you guys cause to think that maybe the reason there is no proof is that aliens are not visiting?
If you went fishing in a lake for 60 years, and never caught a fish, might it not dawn on you that there are no fish in that lake?
As for the open minded bit, don't you realize that the UFO's are alien explanation IS THE MAINSTREAM? Has been since the era of the 50's B movie! To think that aliens are visiting isn't radical, alternate or open minded, it's mundane and ordinary. So ordinary, it's been incorporated into countless TV shows, movies and has permeated every aspect of pop culture. The same pop culture almost all of you were raised on from childhood. You have absorbed this image so many times since infancy, you are programmed to believe it. And many of you do. Without question.
Because you were subliminaly indoctrinated and told to!
That's why I ask for proof. So that maybe, just maybe, a few of you might examine you dogmatic beliefs, and think about WHY you believe them!

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posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by OldDragger
reply to post by spinalremain
 


As for the open minded bit, don't you realize that the UFO's are alien explanation IS THE MAINSTREAM? Has been since the era of the 50's B movie! To think that aliens are visiting isn't radical, alternate or open minded, it's mundane and ordinary.
That's why I ask for proof. So that maybe, just maybe, a few of you might examine you dogmatic beliefs, and think about WHY you believe them!


I think you are replying to me in the last part.

UFO = "UNIDENTIFIED flying object". Who's talking about aliens? Not me.

I have no dogmatic belief whatsoever, I have only posted a video to share what I have seen with people.

Now, if you are so smart, you are more than welcome to explain me what exactly I have seen.

Because whatever it is, I just don't know what it is.
Nobody told me. End of story.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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You are such a troll. In fact you are the classic definition of a troll. There will be no one answering your challenge to your satisfaction because you will always find some stupid way to dismiss what they are saying. I'm sure you would love to argue that cars don't exist, either, but like I said, you're a troll and not worthy of anyone answering your challenge any longer.



posted on Jul, 13 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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Really good videos there. I am sure the balloon or Chinese lantern theory will pop up but they look pretty other worldly to me.
But then I am not an expert.
The people I tend to believe here are Phage.. and I can't really think of anyone else...so when (if) he chimes in on it, we might know more.

Interesting capture none the less!




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