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Show us ONE, just one UFO pic or ANY evidence that can be proven as evidence of visitation.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:53 PM
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What an attitude. You do realize that people have their own experiences and don't need evidences or witnesses to prove that to anyone, don't you?

But as you said since ufology isn't a science let's do the opposite. Instead of we showing evidence of something that you know for sure doesn't exist. Show us the scientific evidences that prove that UFOs do not exist instead.

It will be easier for you since you already have the evidences and you won't have to wait for other to prove.

Perhaps you will be the one to set this subject for once and for all.

Looking forward to see your evidences to prove that UFOs and Aliens do not exist.

Please enlighten me.




posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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good,now i have told you all about weapon system from maybbe amerikas newly cleaked army,pleas remember this is for all,but pleas be sure you have forseen all aspect off possibel disasters,iff need help pleas contact mee,im litle joker,iff anyone from new york get scared now becaus i tell you that you one time had many liquid pulsating bombs over your city,then pleas remember they very extremly longer away than usely that good sign that means is your own pilots inside,good i like,when they make cropcircles in nighttime its because not people there and these spheres are dangerous but they need to train,its like target pratising,i have litle trouble in knowing how much you understand and what my level off speak i have to do for you understand gooder,but again,thes made from human not alien,these designs to old,by the way,these wholes in sky that look like worm holes not are,when you have stealt plane made off fotons you can claok then you use microvae amiter and shot in sky and shoot foton and light inside then look like worm hole,very smart,but again human design,not real wormhole,sorry,but the tech they use for making these are same for doing in real just need extreme more power,so pracice for future is good,all in all i will say future looks nice for all iff its possibel too keep disasters away keep hard control off army and ships,make tunnels for al citys so lifestyle get mixed ,that necesary for future survival in the new sort off planetary wars that will come,the new mag wars but that first in long time when we litle more populated in planets and we have kisked the old #ty humans theres living there now away,they leftovers from old cultures,they look bad and maybee lie about or maybee they even have learned from small that they from space and not human,but they are,from last civilisation,remeber to build planet defense on earth to the most extreme in the universe,you will need it,not only you look for other and other look for you,
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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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This movie is superb with great (convincing) footage and UFO activity on this planet is explained throughout. I you like this video you will like the other 6 short videos which total about and hour. Definitely worth watching whether you believe it or not. I watched them 2 nights ago and I am going now to youtube to watch them all again.





[edit on 11-7-2010 by rusethorcain]



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 01:56 PM
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Montana 1950 & Utah 1952 UFO/Orb Films









Dr Hynek talks about and the Robertson Panel of 1953 examination of the Montana & Utah Incident



One of the Smoking Guns ! Dont rock the Boat
go to the 1.15 min mark !




posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Matrix Rising

Again, people are not coming to these conclusions out of thin air.

The eyewitnesses describe what they saw, heard and experienced. Some of them have even been taken onto these crafts. So people are not making anything up. They are just going by the evidence as reported and investigated.

The pseudoskeptic thinks their opinion should be given more weight than the eyewitness testimony and that's silly.

Eyewitness accounts is direct evidence.


So then I guess ghost, big foot, little people, lockness monster, and 1000s of other phenomenon are ALL factually real because observation is direct evidence. What I suggest is human observation is the weakest form of evidence and without further evidence supporting it is not enough to come to a conclusion.



There's ways to test the credibility of the witness. The pseudoskeptic acts like the credibility of the witness means nothing but the legal system would break down if we didn't use eyewitness testimony and we didn't have credible witnesses.


Legal system and scientific observation/conclusions are apples and oranges. Can we say OJ, all the hard proof needed to show he was guilty and he was found innocent.


One other thing, in the legal system we have I witness backing physical evidence. As example three I witnesses see a guy shoot another guy, so we have a dead body, bullets in the body, shells on the ground etc all physical evidence we know exists.

Now what if three people said they saw a green guy shoot flames out his fingers and burn to death another guy into smoke? Now we have someone who is green with no one else in the world to suggest that green people even exist, he used a capability that no one else can do so we can not compare his ability to anything, and we do not even have a body to say someone died. Are their observations still all that is needed to put the country on high alert for this green guy? Well this is about what we have with the whole UFO phenomena.






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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by OldDragger

The subject of my thread was WHY NO PROOF after decades of intense interest? That apparently escapes all of you.
You want to convine me, even when I told you STRAIGHT OFF, I wouldn't be.
But does the light bulb go off for any of you gripers?
Noooooooo!
Do even one of the ask yourself WHY? WHY is there never any proof or progress? Nooooooo1
You want to debate?To convince me.

talk about the same old tied boring traditional thought!
To be fair, a couple of you DO get it! Thanks!
I think you are the only ones that are truley open.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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then again maybe just maybe their Ours! MANMADE VRILL
UFOs Manufactured on Earth Even tho its from Billy Meir's Close Friend Randolph Winters who knows !


Vrill Nazi Ufos sites

www.stevequayle.com...



ATS Member's want a site to see for Believers and De bunkers! a site for all types ! very good! site Enjoy ! what Kenneth Arnold might have seen ! the crescent Ufo or a Horten Ho Ix or Gotha go 229

and to look real deep you would have to look into Operation Paperclip!

www.roswellufocrash.com...

Classified Germany UFO Technology








the early beginning the Bell die Glock !
en.wikipedia.org...

nazi ufo The Bell Documentry part 1



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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This is one video that I find to be the real-est thing I've ever known.

Real Inter Dimensional or wormhole Caught on Video

www.youtube.com...

Watch the whole video please. You decide?



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Another_Nut
Jeez does noone get this? The OP isnt saying ufos dont exist hes sayin that they cant be proven to be of ET origins.
He references pics in his title to lure u into an arguement . I mean, he already said he would need a birth cert. from an entity claiming to be from off world.
so imagine a lil grey "alien" landing in his yard , he know this is a ufo , but he has to be certain its ET so he tells the lil green guy " Nice ship, but not PROOF you came from jupiter. so im calling you a Hoax". Thats his mind set ... so unless u have an entity, a long form birth cert, and a way to take him to the entitys planet he wont accept anything as "proof".

Yep, some of us got that from the beginning. In other words, there will be nothing that can convince him at all.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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Ok I don't know but I think little people do exist. In fact there are a few tv shows about them.
1. Little people Big World
2. Half Pint Brawlers. good show
3. Little couple
4.Little chocolatiers
and there is probably more I just cannot think of them right now. Oh yes I cannot forget the one and only Tatoo from Fantasy Island. So you see litlt people do exist.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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Great videos of UFOs, but I failed to see the aliens too, can you point them out?



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by jpvskyfreak


Taken from the cockpit of a cessna 172 German pilot doing private flying near Big Bear Mountain in the USA.


Jpvskyfreak.....

That looks a little "iPhone-ish" to me.....

Here is a selection of UFO's that can be inserted into users' photo's with this app:



Here's my thread about that:

Would The iPhone UFO App Fool Members of ATS?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


That looks a lot like the Testor UFO model...




posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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obviously evidence is brought to this website to be discussed and analyzed by people of all walks of life in order to come to a REAL conclusion. trust me any pic of vid posted on here gets scrutanized immediatley. so that the truth can be formed and anything unexplained can be claimed as so.

If you come to a website or forums and say "show me evidence or you're full of it!" your not gonna find it. most forums dont just throw pictures up and say. "this is it guys... this is proof" becuase as you know its a rare phenomina. lots of credible people in the military, aviation, science and so on have claimed that this is real and happening. they didnt claim it was little grey people, they didnt claim it was humans. they simple say its an unidentified flying object.. a term that is associated with little grey men. but in reality just means that no one can identify it.

so in conclusion you should relax. do some research and form an opinion on your own. if you come here and say "give me proof or i dont believe" then your never gonna believe. and if someone did hand you proof and you DID believe.. what does that say about your research? what can you explain? how can you convince someone else its real if you simply were just shown a photo?

knowledge is power... so do research and empower yourself and come to your own conclusion.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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On the flip side,were are the humans?


regards to all



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
Please stop typing and slowly back away from the computer and quit showing how much sense of reason you do not have. What were you thinking when you started to do this thread. Anybody that started a rediculous thread on a topic like this should have come to his/her (just being politcally correct) senses before typing. How can someone prove anything to you when you keep saying that you need something more concrete. I will bet if they landed in your front yard came in took a dump ate your food and watched porn on the tv while you were home you would still want more proof. Am I right or wrong about this? And yes this is directed toward the OP. This is not a personal attack towards you it is a common sense attack, because it seems to show you are using or have lost most of it.


Why would these aliens want to have a dump in my yard, eat my food and watch porn?


Have you seen the proof that aliens fly strange craft in our atmosphere? You have seen an alien being? Flying a ship? I have seen no such proof. There is evidence of strange craft flying in our skies but i fail to see how this automatically means the pilots are extra-terrestrial.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Hey, OP why dont you give us some proof that aliens HAVENT visited earth, at least we have some fuzzy pictures. Besides, think about it. Over 100 billion stars in our galaxy ALONE! Imagine how many planets there are. It almost seems ludacris to say that aliens do not exist. And it is not too surprising that aliens may be visiting us. Think about it, what would WE do if we found an ET planet with intelligent beings on it. We would just hop down there and say "Hi". That would be just plain stupid. What if these beings werent very nice? Wed be screwed. We would go in there stealthily and observe.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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please look what i posted on this thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...

then take a second look

my belief its a Minotaur Rocket going second stage



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
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Ok I don't know but I think little people do exist. In fact there are a few tv shows about them.
1. Little people Big World
2. Half Pint Brawlers. good show
3. Little couple
4.Little chocolatiers
and there is probably more I just cannot think of them right now. Oh yes I cannot forget the one and only Tatoo from Fantasy Island. So you see litlt people do exist.


I agree we have great evidence that humans come in small sizes, good point. With that said, I'm not sure if we can further our conclusions to suggest that because we have physical evidence of small humans then leprechauns, sprites, pixies, elves etc also exists, though many cultures around the world believe in some form of these.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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Stop posting Uranus pics...because it has been photographed it doesn't means that it exist.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Me thinks you are obsessed with this subject. Did you just learn the word "pseudoskeptic"? Because you have used it about 132 times in your posts here so far. I am not a pseudoskeptic. I have said I do not know if extraterrestrials exist. They may or they may not. No biggie, IMO.

Even if they came forth and said, "Yep, we are from Na New Na New.", ya know they could be lieing and actually be misfigured dwarf Nazis from Hamburg. If someone chooses to be a skeptic don't be upset. Take a deep breath. They have a right to their opinion and you have a right to yours.




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