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The new revolution of survivalists

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posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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But tucked away out of sight in his backyard are the signs of his preparations for doomsday, a catastrophic societal collapse that Erwin, 45, now believes is likely within his lifetime.

"I've got, under an awning, stacks of firewood, rain catching in barrels, I've got a shed with barbed concertina wire, like the military uses," he told AFP.

He and his wife also have also stockpiled thousands of rounds of ammunition and enough food for about six months.

www.inquirer.net...

It seems that more and more people are beginning to prepare for the eventual economic collapse of the world's economy. It is nice to read that people are becoming more aware and starting to prepare for SHTF. People are finally paying attention!




posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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Ah yes,
Another miscreant, misguided malcontent and maladroit of the social order. Another potential terrorist. An enemy of the nanny state. A self sufficient take-care-of-your-self type who would eschew the caring wisdom of an over-the-top monomanaical control seeking government in order to supercede his assigned strata.

How dare you seek to influence circumstances for the betterment of yourself and yours in an ill concieved attempt to thwart the machinations of DC and the monied elite? Truly a criminal thing to utilize foresight and caution to negotiate a position of superiority over your less attentive peers.

Poor misguided soul.

Forget this foolishness and submit happily into the distasteful fate so generously provided for you by the benevolence of the powers that be.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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And the real problem is that the current regime will feel compelled to see self sifficient types who under other philosophies should be applauded, govt sees them as nothing more than hoarders who have 'unfairly' appropriated goods that would better serve the poor and unprepared. IF govt intervention wasnt such a certainty now, it could work but against a govt intending to develop an army of dependent slaves, it's absolutely unacceptable.
Too bad there is not a complete set of testicles in the top brass to put a stop to govt intervention against people who seek self sufficiency.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 10:50 AM
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Maybe you wanna have a look into my thread down in my signature.

I am on the search for people who would like to live a life with nature and i know there are also a lot of people who are afraid of the next years and want to bring their family and or friend to a secure place.

Peace!



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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The fools in the Democratic and Republican parties will destroy America.

The Survivalists will be the ones that rebuild it.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Yup I feel the same way... that's why we moved... bought us a little mini farm out in Kansas... unlike this fellow I don't have any one thing I can point to and say time is running out... call it one of those funny feeling like when you play a game and you have to finish before the clock runs out...

No, I dont know what's comming but the clock's ticking....



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by SpearofOdin
The fools in the Democratic and Republican parties will destroy America.

The Survivalists will be the ones that rebuild it.


I'm somewhat confused as to the timeline, if its destroyed by the govt lackeys with limitless funds and resources to destroy all that oppose it or pose any threat, who will be left to rebuild and how?
If nobody fights back in large enough numbers and at the same time and in the same fashion, and with ultimate success, nobody will survive in great enough numbers to reorganize anything other than perhaps a medieval existence with its attendant glories.
Hiding in caves and woods is ok for natural disasters, but wont put anyone out of the range of govt assets designed to destroy all but the best trained, organized and equipped, and that even survivalists continue to fund their opposition disproportionally well, that's not gonna be likely



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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It's a good feeling, is it not?
Survival is the essence of human nature and we must not give in to naysayers.

It's better to be prepared than to be surprised.


(I new I should've started my survival gear business)


Revolution? I think not.
I think survivalists would just as soon stay home than run out and fight.
Preparedness is key.




posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 11:26 AM
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I'm somewhat confused as to the timeline, if its destroyed by the govt lackeys with limitless funds and resources to destroy all that oppose it or pose any threat, who will be left to rebuild and how?
If nobody fights back in large enough numbers and at the same time and in the same fashion, and with ultimate success, nobody will survive in great enough numbers to reorganize anything other than perhaps a medieval existence with its attendant glories.
Hiding in caves and woods is ok for natural disasters, but wont put anyone out of the range of govt assets designed to destroy all but the best trained, organized and equipped, and that even survivalists continue to fund their opposition disproportionally well, that's not gonna be likely.


Those with the intelligence and foresight to equip themselves now, and hide away, will rebuild after the collapse.

The Puritans built America and there were a few hundred of them at first.

Those that fight the system will be destroyed.

The system cannot be defeated, it can only destroy itself.

When it collapses, it will devour itself completely.

When Rome fell within a generation it went from a city of three million to a city of 30,000 - the collapse will kill millions.

No government will survive.

Once the government collapses there will be no government assets hunting people down, it will be like in the film The Road with stray bands of marauders hunting other people for food.

Those dug in deep, armed to the teeth and stocked up with food will be able to live through the collapse.

Once the system has fallen, and with it all the agents of the system, then the survivalists can rebuild America locally.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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Well as much as I've been dealing with this topic for years and have invested heavily in it, it's been a long transition process from hope to disillusion. Fwiw I've govt training in this, and typical of all govt training it's far too superficial and inadaquate so I've been down the various rabbit holes of reality.
Estimates within the govt expect 90% casualties within a year in the event of a natural or emp event that occurs even when govt is neutral. I'd have hoped for more than platitudes, and stiff upper lip and all that, but in my experience I dont think you can win any game on strictly defense when the offense has its vacuum hose firmly in your home and pocket and helps itself to your wherabouts and funds as it sees fit.
Ah well, Cheers!



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 12:02 PM
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if you were ever a boy scout then you will always "be prepared."
it's the ant and the grasshopper story, only with guns..
and if you dont pay attention- you're gonna pay something else. bet that.
its not pessimism, it's realism- people got a chuckle out of me i'm sure.
but now i wonder if i'm ready enough. i wonder if i underestimate the
the gravity of the situation. regular life stuff goes on -
but i feel like i'm about to sucker punched.
theres sites i check- dots i connect -not a pretty picture.
it's rather a hobby now. like a bad detective movie.
i'm more curious than afraid of any particular thing.
"many will grow to hate the new world order ,
and will die fighting it" H G Wells 1940.
thats about where i'm at..
AUSTERITY=PROSPERITY !
and the doublespeak is relentless.
FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH!
perpetual war for the war machines oil
that poisons everything..
ASK YOUR DOCTOR IF NUMBITAL IS FOR YOU
for chronic anxiety due to solar flares ,polar shifts
korean war flu, iranian war flu, meltdowns,gulf syndrome,
UN takeover-draco aliens...
so start gardening instead of golf- ride your bike-
get some gold or silver- stock up on rice beans lentils peas oats raisins
nuts canned meats or fish.
learn to handle a weapon- whatever you feel comfortable with.
at least have a 12 ga -( h+r-100 bucks )and some buckshot around the house.
or a 22 ..slingshot bow and arrows or something- anything.
get a dog- or a dog with a gun.
do some what-if drills..
i have my passport.
i have other places to be.
none of this seems so crazy to me. once you are free from tv programming
you may get some of your sense back.








[edit on 10-7-2010 by p51mustang]



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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I dunno if youre referencing me, but if you saw what I got I couldnt get to to leave the property. I dont expect anyone comes close on their own. Nuff said.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Well-played sarcasm



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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By the way, is this guy a moron or what? If you're stockpiling food and firewood and ammo, you don't TELL everyone. Now his neighbors know where to go for food and ammo if things get sticky. Idiot.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM
By the way, is this guy a moron or what? If you're stockpiling food and firewood and ammo, you don't TELL everyone. Now his neighbors know where to go for food and ammo if things get sticky. Idiot.


Not really, a decent maxim or browning beltfed makes short work of groups of all sizes if you have a proper KZ laid and interocking fields of fire, intrusion devises in place and a variety of electrooptical devices to pierce smoke and darkness.
Maxim belt loaders air fairly dear if you can find them, and handloadable schwartzlose belts now very hard to find and they do break. 1918 browning loaders are relatively common, but get spare needles. lewis drums are a real pain to load, get as many as you can and cull the bad ones for spares, pity its 303 and hard to get SA surplus anymore.
Perhaps they're advertizing for visitors because they have hogs and dont wish to purchase commercial feed?



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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I should hang my shingle out for teaching survival classes again. Make some money before it all goes to poop.
Funny thing is this is nothing new, it's really a return to how most of us (in the country anyway) used to live - semi self-sufficient.
I don't see the peaceful commune types faring very well, they are going to look like easy prey to some and probably will be.
The LAST thing "survivalists" are is revolutionaries. They just want to be able to live on their land in peace, something most of us can identify with.
I guess I'm as ready as I'll ever be having prepared for this for 30 years now.

I strongly suggest everyone have some early-warning devices (or a dog), learn how to make simple booby traps and night vision if you can afford it. The biggest problem these folks will face will be night. You have to sleep sometime and that's when trouble is most likely to start.

Don't forget there are Executive orders that allows the Gov't to take ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the event of a "national emergency". Only problem is we have been in a constant state of declared national emergency since 2001.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 12:56 PM
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Sir I see you are from virginny and while I do grow my own virginia leaf 'backer now, what I get doesnt smell at all like storebought. Any really easy curing methods you wish to share?

[edit on 10-7-2010 by mordant1]



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Stop spreading propaganda!
I store food, ammo, water, Etc. for the chance that a hurricane might hit my home in Northern Kalifornia and nothing else.
The economy is fine because Dear Leader says so.
And in the event a hurricane hits here in N Korea Kalifornia FEMA will be around shortly to save me and sweep me away on a bus to a safe warm shelter where there is fresh food and water.
I am not one of those Psycho end of the world survivalists, I am a prepper.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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Sorry. I don't know anything about curing tobacco. I do roll my own though. If you learn anything about it I'd be interested too. We are currently looking to buy a new house in the mountains and baccy is one of those things I plan to grow. I do know that every tobacco curing barn I was ever in had a very smoky smell. My guess is that they smoked it with green hickory, not sure though.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 09:30 AM
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Raises hands for rolling my own...
And as a side note and plus for growing your own
nicotine is a great pesticide... couldn't say how its distilled only that I've used it before and it works wonders



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