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Gaziano: Obama Appointee, 'Never bring another lawsuit against a black'

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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By that same token, I'm sure the DOJ hard a hard time finding credible witnesses whe n the roles were reversed. It seems to be the OP's contention that this is "a fox guarding the henhouse" situation.
As a gay man, I'm painfully aware that Fox News has an agenda just like the MSM. As a "hillbilly", I'm painfully aware that the MSM has an agenda just like Fox News.
During the last election I , like everyone, was bombarded by the MSM with sound bites of hope, change, equality and justice for all, and an end to the war. Not until well after the election was I presented with the fine print, the disclaimers on the contract we had signed. Having bought a "pig in a poke", I will scrutinize any hints of hypocrisy.


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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 10:32 AM
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Do not think I somehow separate Fox out from the rest of the MSM. They serve a purpose. They serve a certain segment of society that desires the particular product they push. Generally this is all calculated to make things go the way TPTB so desire it. Is there some kind of serious race war on the horizon? No. Do they want certain parts of the population to believe that? Yes, it's easier for people to fight with each other over general stupidity than to unite and realize they are all being screwed over by the same people.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Personally my analysis of FOX is that they act as a devise to catch people on their way to the truth from going the whole way to to truth and consequences, and then direct them to 'half-measure land' and encourage thinking that one can use a corrupt system with no permanent or universally followed rules to defeat that same system is the purpose.
It's not gonna work to bring representation of the productive class. Most telling is that Murdock was a donor to the dem campaigns.
For the officers of the court to thrive they have to find any reason to find those with the most money at fault and keep them from realizing that they can keep their earnings for themselves and their families.
THere is no profit to find the indigent at fault, they gots no cash but functionall in their search for cash they create chaos that is profitable for the govt and so they are encouraged.



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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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Couldn't agree more. Still, the fact that those espousing militant racial ideology are tools of TPTB doesn't mean that viewing this situation with a jaundiced eye is motivated purely by racism and xenophobia. Those who would shout down the concerns of others, no matter how uncomfortable, would also be tools of TPTB.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by 23refugee
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Couldn't agree more. Still, the fact that those espousing militant racial ideology are tools of TPTB doesn't mean that viewing this situation with a jaundiced eye is motivated purely by racism and xenophobia. Those who would shout down the concerns of others, no matter how uncomfortable, would also be tools of TPTB.


The question is if the concerns are well-founded. I put the figures out there. Bottom line: Blacks are pretty heavily outnumbered by Whites. There is no logical reason to believe there is some massive scheme underfoot to keep the white man down. It's stupid, it's silly and and it's counterintuitive. There is most likely a massive scheme to keep everyone down. This is why worrying about one segment getting trounced on is silly. You are all getting trounced on.

I remember reading about a person who was kicked to death by Neo-Nazi's for speaking Spanish in a bar. I don't remember Fox ever making a stink about Nazis. They pick and choose the same as the rest of the media. There is plenty of ignoring to go around.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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To believe that a majority is required for a racial segment to rule is historically naive.
Sorry, wrong button.
I agree to the unlikelyhood of that scenario, but it has happened.
There very well may have been someone who was derided for his predjudice at the gates of Troy when he wanted to look that gift horse in the mouth.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by 23refugee
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To believe that a majority is required for a racial segment to rule is historically naive.


It is required, It's also required they have more money and power than whites. Go look at Congress-mostly white. Go look at most of Obama's handlers-Mostly white.

White people have got most of the power, money and the best education (and i'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, it's just a statement of fact). This is what is required to manipulate populations. Blacks don't have it in the U.S. Sorry, I think it's quite illogical to believe that tomorrow Obama is going to throw his support behind the NBP and steal everything from white people. It's hysteria, flat out.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by 23refugee
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To believe that a majority is required for a racial segment to rule is historically naive.


On this planet, when there is no established and voluntarily followed form of civility, force, greed and selfishness will prevail, it's simple social entropy. One can conjecture that whichever group can be demonstrated as consistantly and inherently more violent and less concerned about those outside their tribe will prevail.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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While blacks may lack the power, TPTB you mentioned can and have instigated war amongst the lower classes. They will remain king while they replace dukes at will.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by 23refugee
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While blacks may lack the power, TPTB you mentioned can and have instigated war amongst the lower classes. They will remain king while they replace dukes at will.


And? If you know it's all a ploy why would you fall for it? The position makes little sense. Generally speaking, if you know it's bait you shouldn't pay attention to it.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:38 AM
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What would I be falling for? If the power structure changes, those above me would also have to refuse to participate in the system. The same lack of equality would still exist, just with a reversal of roles.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:39 AM
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By what reconing do blacks lack power? What is the mechanism of the powerless generating massive welfare system essentially designed for their benefit? What's the powerlessness of those that frighten the govt and caucasian public into providing trillions in tribute and even privately fearing to state their own views and personal concerns when they contradict the goals of urban tribality?
Powerlessness? the nation is rent and doomed by concern and fear re not inflaming a criminal oriented unproductive and unforgiving popular black culture which represents only about 10% of the population and you call that powerlessness? Call me wierd, call me racist if it please you but I call that power and at some lower lever of function, I'm really envious.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:43 AM
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I said blacks MAY lack power. Just using her contention to begin my point. But you know that



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Reverse racism is big in uk too now, where white people are treated just as bad in london.

There really is no point to this world is there. What about people that just want to live, and have nothing to do with anyone else. I tell you what just for being white, these people can attack you even if all groups and peoples have gone through bad times in past. It seems white people are always going to pay, while they are part of minorities too.

Sickening world, and how any of you people can talk to me about how i claim that 90% of humans are just wannabee murderers.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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I have no intention of murdering anyone, just as I have no intention of me or mine being murdered. Sure you're the same.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by 23refugee
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I said blacks MAY lack power. Just using her contention to begin my point. But you know that


And monkeys MAY fly out of my butt, wantsa discuss that? Any why would anyone want to when we know there is no point?
Discussing what doesnt exist means that whatever conclusions drawn from that dont exist or be funtional in real life, kinda like in math when anything multiplied by zero, no matter what other numbers and symbols are allowed/incuded on the other side, still result in ZERO.
So to is any argument where falsehood and illogic is included.

Ever talk to a real psychotic person? No matter what you say or how, they'll live in their own world and there will be no common grown found, and the end result is you've entertained them and given them credibilty by sacrificing a part of the real world and your limited time to get real stuff done.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by mordant1
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By what reconing do blacks lack power? What is the mechanism of the powerless generating massive welfare system essentially designed for their benefit? What's the powerlessness of those that frighten the govt and caucasian public into providing trillions in tribute and even privately fearing to state their own views and personal concerns when they contradict the goals of urban tribality?


Trillions in tribute lol. No, it's nowhere near that much. Generally speaking, those on welfare are dependent on the government. They are unlikely to revolt against that government. Oh they will grumble from time to time. Just throw a few more dollars their way and they shut up. But then again, you know the majority of welfare recipients are actually white women.




Powerlessness? the nation is rent and doomed by concern and fear re not inflaming a criminal oriented unproductive and unforgiving popular black culture which represents only about 10% of the population and you call that powerlessness? Call me wierd, call me racist if it please you but I call that power and at some lower lever of function, I'm really envious.


Funny, when I go out I don't hear people fearfully speaking about a raging horde of black people getting ready to take over the country. Then again I live with sensible people though. That might have something to do with it. As for "dominant black culture", nope. When I turn on the TV it's still mostly white people, when I turn on the radio it's still mostly white singers (unless it's a rap station) and the last I checked, the majority of prisoners in the system are white.



posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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Sorry trillions, yes. Your dismissal is typical of either an ininformed person or a diversion plant.
Power to frighten tribute while doing nothing productive is wrong.
Hords, or fear of yes, happens all the time, LA Watts, Detroit, atlanta.
I'm myslef a survivor of a racial attack for being nothing more than white, others were not so lucky. 12 gauge slugs at point blank range leave nasty holes in thin white kids, and it didnt even make the local news, and the non whites around did nothing to help or even call for it after, they were just talking with the shooter. Explain the furor over relatively few ctual lynchings a century ago, yet no outcry for lynchings of whites in modern times in far greater numbers?
DOJ statistics chronical the wildly disproportionate black on white violent crime stats. I grew up in the hood, I've heard the undercurrent of the intentionally politiacl rationalization of blacks to exploit naive white culture folks, whatever color they may actually be, oreos are just as at risk.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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As these debates are designed to do, your points reminded me of an article I read from some socialist site. The author presented the conspiracy theory that Dr. King was murdered by TPTB only after he shifted his focus to racism in the North and he ( Dr. King) suggested that Appalachian people and other poverty stricken people all join forces against the class system. I'd love to link, but too ignorant.

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posted on Jul, 11 2010 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by mordant1
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Sorry trillions, yes. Your dismissal is typical of either an ininformed person or a diversion plant.


Nope, It's because i actually know the damn numbers. If we included all means-tested programs, which would include medicare, college aid etc. since the inception of these programs (the 60's) it is actually 9 trillion dollars. It is highly unlikely this was all spent on blacks considering they are not the majority of the population. Again, the statistics show it is mostly white women who receive welfare.



Power to frighten tribute while doing nothing productive is wrong.


So you are saying there are no productive blacks in this country?


Hords, or fear of yes, happens all the time, LA Watts, Detroit, atlanta.


One of my close friends lives in Detroit, he doesn't seem to fear hordes of raging black people. I've been to Atlanta myself, the crime rate is above average but it has been declining over the last few years. There are certainly worse cities out there.


I'm myslef a survivor of a racial attack for being nothing more than white, others were not so lucky.


Oh so we have a personal issue here.


DOJ statistics chronical the wildly disproportionate black on white violent crime stats. I grew up in the hood, I've heard the undercurrent of the intentionally politiacl rationalization of blacks to exploit naive white culture folks, whatever color they may actually be, oreos are just as at risk.


Of course there's a a difference in the stats. Most white collar crime is committed by whites-Why? Because whites are more likely to be better educated and have access to areas where one would commit those crimes. Blacks are more likely to be poor in this country. The poor are generally more likely to be violent. This is a trend one sees worldwide. Whites have more money, if you were poor do you think you would target the person beside you that you know is broke too? No, it's not some racial problem, because blacks are more likely to be murdered by other blacks. Don't see much in the way of tribalism there. It's a poverty problem.

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