Gaziano: Obama Appointee, 'Never bring another lawsuit against a black'

NBP leader says he wants to kill cops:

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JOURNO: Obviously you don't believe in killing census workers.

ARMEY: Umm, not in that context, no sir. No, no.

JOURNO: Okay, in what context?

ARMEY: Just for the sake of this interview, no context. I don't believe in that. There are too many other government forces out here that are much more powerful that I as a man would focus on. I wouldn't focus on the census workers, sir, I'd focus on the police.

Quite amazing, especially when you consider how the media went on and on for over a year about how violent the tea parties were (with no evidence of any violence). You might also remember the hutaree group that was arrested by the feds for wanting to kill cops and how outraged everyone was about that.

I wouldn't expect the same outrage here.

[edit on 9-7-2010 by Hudson]

reply to post by Hudson


Now this is what really boggles the mind. If I remember correctly didn't the militia group Hutaree get arrested because they had said something about killing police officers. And yet this Black Panther can talk about the same thing and nothing happens. What can you say the real racistst are in DC and they got elected. to office. That is just insane to see how the Obama admin works and do not not care what the consequences will be.

Originally posted by Wise Man
The original Black Panthers was a CIA project to stir up racial drama between blacks and whites.


It was a set up to lure blacks who were feeling oppressed to look and act bad for the T.V.

With this New black panther party crap they are stiring up more drama so they can get the race war started. It's a set up like the original Black Panthers.

Know what would be really funny is that if the NBBP wouldnt get any members wanting to join because the intended dupes were smart enough to know they were being used. Now THAT would be the new way to stick it to the 'man'.

Now really it's not that hard either way you feel the genesis is, underclass of massive ignorance, aggressiveness and sense of entitlement attacks the wimpy middle class productive population that outnumbers them. Given the difference in numbers and the likely force multiplier that intelligence, reality based thinking and material resources the two sides essentially obliterate each other, sadly, leaving the bunkered ruling and other privileged classes to carry on somehow in a massively depopulated land littered with desperate survivors willing to do anything for promises of leadership and promised of a return to comfort.
So, do you hear me now?

reply to post by Hudson


Sorry about posting the same thing about the hutaree you beat me to the punch. I need to pay better attention to what I am reading.

In this video Malik Shabazz , the head of the Black Panther Party, talks about the Nov 8 incident.


Here's the actual video with audio. King Samir Shabazz is the one with the club in his hand. Honestly it doesn't look like he's stopping anyone but the club in his hand does look intimidating. Probably should be allowed to stand in front of a polling place like that but I do think that Fox News is blowing this scenario up to be more than it was.


To be fair, based on the following National Geographic video below I would say that King Samir Shabazz has the potential to be violent.

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Whatever their perversities, these are not stupid people, they are masters of manipulation and creating perverse alliances for their own benefit and have survived and somehow thrived at the expense of the majority cleveley cowed in an environment that was specifically designed at it's inception to prevent what they're doing now.
If they have started behaving like they dont care about the consequences, maybe they know that there will not be consequences.
Consequences from an upcoming election? Simple, no honest election held.
Take money for a future payback and then quickly spend it on something else? maybe they know the payback will be, um, indefinately delayed.
Jus sayin..

Funny as a white man.....I could be charged with a crime for speaking in public like that. However that rather small ignorant man gets a pass........yup Change you can believe in!

Originally posted by dbates
but I do think that Fox News is blowing this scenario up to be more than it was.

What about the interview where he openly says they should 'kill white babies'

I guess that's no big deal too


[edit on 9-7-2010 by insideNSA]

Former Justice Department attorney and Republican activist J. Christian Adams, the guy who first brought these unsubstantiated "explosive allegations" about the Obama Administration outright dismissing voter intimidation claims against the Black Panthers to FOX news, has already stated in his own interview that his "evidence" is based on hearsay and claims made by others.



During the interview with Megyn Kelly of FOX news, Adams claims that Steve Rosenbaum didn't read ANY of the memos because his mind was already made up, and then that attorney Chris Coates threw the memos into his face in anger.

So then came the logical follow up question:

KELLY: What was the response? I mean, that's an extraordinary story.

ADAMS: I don't know. I wasn't there.

Won't stop him from going forward with it as if it were a fact!

As the Department of Justice stated in response to his allegations, he distorted facts and made baseless allegations all to further his own agenda.

So now another conservative, Todd Gaziano, comes forward to push these allegations further and even adds the very suspect claim that Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandez ordered, ‘Never bring another lawsuit against a black or other national minority, apparently no matter what they do.’

Really?
Sounds utterly ridiculous.

To be honest this just sounds like more partisan divisive tactics being used upon the gullible and frustrated population of America. Another attempt to get people to ignore those responsible for the real issues we have in America and instead project hate towards one another on a base level.

Before I jump into the "Obama is a Black Panther Muslim Anti-Christ and hates Whites" or "White men are the newly oppressed" bandwagon I'd like to see some evidence.

If there is any to be seen.

Otherwise, this is just more hearsay on this particular subject.

- Lee

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There is an investigation going on now, so clearly the CRC thought there was something not right about dropping such a clear cut voter intimidation case. How do you explain the dropping of a case that had witnesses, video tape and defendants who didn't even show to court?

Of course, just like the MSM, you use the guy's politics to smear him. From everything I've read he was a highly respected guy who just resigned from an outstanding career. I guess we'll have to see what the investigation turns up, but I still don't see how you can defend the DOJ's decision regarding this incident.

EDIT: Its also suspect to me that you dismiss Obama's own racist statements stretching from his books, to his campaign. If a white guy had said some of the things he did, you would have no trouble believing this. In fact, if it were white KKK members involved and a Bush DOJ dropped the case, I have a hard time believing you would be so skeptical.

[edit on 9-7-2010 by Hudson]

Originally posted by insideNSA

Originally posted by dbates
but I do think that Fox News is blowing this scenario up to be more than it was.

What about the interview where he openly says they should 'kill white babies'

I guess that's no big deal too

It's not a big deal to me.
This guy sounds like a nut, why should I care what he says?

I'm not going to get bent out of shape over some lunatic making irrational statements.

It's like me getting worked up every time Fred Phelps says "God Hates Jews and Gays" or "Thank God for Dead Soldiers".

We can't lock him up for being an idiot and saying ridiculous things now can we?
Freedom of Speech, even hate speech, applies to us all.

The best the government can do is monitor the many hate-groups and be aware of their movements and plans.

- Lee

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So Obamas own words, actions, and church he went to is not enough evidence? Wow, I guess forget deny ignorance doesn't apply here, just deny huh?

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Are people really surprised by this?
He attended Rev. Jeremiah Wrights racist white man hating church for 20 years and and it was ignored by the voters. All the self hating white people that voted for Obama ignored the fact that we was a member of a racist church and accepted Obama lies that he never realized that Rev. Wright preached hatred of the white man. What a bunch of dummies. You all get what you deserve.

You were all warned before the election and didn't listen because you wanted to vote the black man in so you could feel better about yourselves and your white guilt.

Based off of what I see in the video, and some of the different testimonies on such, as it was on Fox news this morning on Megan Kelly. Several poll watchers were threatened, and witnessed both of them threatening and turning away voters. This does not bode well, however, when a person is walking with a nightstick or a weapon, it is the same principle as say a white person showing up in white sheets or a noose, is the same thing. And to use racial statements along with stating. The other aspect of this that statement that a blackman is going to rule, is against the federal laws, as that can be construed as a person is trying to gather support for one person or another. It could fully invalidate the votes from that district. After watching the interview between Megan Kelley and the head of the New Black Panther Party, I can only conclude that it is a group that is no better than the KKK, or any other who would use policital power to increase the support for one group, while discriminating against all others.

Originally posted by Hudson
reply to post by lee anoma

 

There is an investigation going on now, so clearly the CRC thought there was something not right about dropping such a clear cut voter intimidation case. How do you explain the dropping of a case that had witnesses, video tape and defendants who didn't even show to court?

Of course, just like the MSM, you use the guy's politics to smear him. From everything I've read he was a highly respected guy who just resigned from an outstanding career. I guess we'll have to see what the investigation turns up, but I still don't see how you can defend the DOJ's decision regarding this incident.

EDIT: Its also suspect to me that you dismiss Obama's own racist statements stretching from his books, to his campaign. If a white guy had said some of the things he did, you would have no trouble believing this. In fact, if it were white KKK members involved and a Bush DOJ dropped the case, I have a hard time believing you would be so skeptical.

[edit on 9-7-2010 by Hudson]

Phelps is a lawyer as are all the church members, their game is to sue municipalities for failure to protect their 'civil rights' of intentionally being as offensive as possible and provoking normal people and they have been fairly successful at it, money essentially stolen from local taxpayers. They are not public officials and they do not set policy and nothing of their claimed beleifs follow the words or intent of jesus' sayings, making them apostates and liars (redundant for lawyers of course) as well.
One in a paid government position of authority intentionally not doing his duty is a thief and saboteur as well and honestly both of the above examples deserve to function as the traditional tree ornaments as theives and saboteurs for their intentional and cynical destruction of honest society.

[edit on 9-7-2010 by mordant1]

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Would you take him seriously if you went to vote and he and his buddies threatened you with a nightstick? I guess that is ok too in your book.


New Black Panther Chief Malik Shabazz Explains The Kill White Babies Comment

DOJ Protected Black Panther Who Advocates Killing White Babies

Originally posted by Hudson

Now one of Obama's own civil rights commission appointees...

Obama's own appointee...

He wasn't an Obama appointee. He works for the Heritage Foundation, which makes the idea even more laughable.

And back in 2008 he hired a man known for wanting to make voting more difficult to work for his commission:

tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...

He's Baaaack: Civil Rights Commission Hires Spakovsky to Work on Voting Rights

By Kate Klonick - August 21, 2008, 12:14PM

It looks like Hans von Spakovsky, an old TPM favorite, is back in business. The former Justice Department official, whose nomination to the Federal Election Commission (FEC) was thwarted when Democrats objected to his long record of support for restrictions on voting rights, has been hired as a "consultant and temporary full-time employee" at the ostensibly bi-partisan U.S. Commission on Civil Rights (USCCR) the agency confirmed to TPMmuckraker.

If Spakovsky's history of backing efforts to make voting more difficult strikes you as a poor fit with the Commission's mission of defending voter rights, consider that of the eight current commissioners at the agency, only two are registered Democrats, a politicization that the New York Times' Charlie Savage brought to light last year.

Among Spakovsky's duties will be overseeing the USCCR's report on the Justice Department's monitoring of the 2008 presidential elections, a source inside the USCCR told TPMmuckraker.

Spakovsky's hiring is at the request of Commissioner Todd Gaziano, who works for the conservative Heritage Foundation on FEC issues and has defended Spakovsky in the press before. According to a federal government source, Gaziano has recommended Spakovsky at the government's highest payscale -- which would work out to about $124,010 annually if Spakovsky was to stay for an entire year.

And it seems that Gaziano may not have been exactly excited to make his selection of Spakovsky public knowledge. At a July 28th meeting (pdf) where the commissioners approved the hiring of the "special assistants," the new hires identities were kept confidential. According to the transcript of the meeting, when one of the commissioners asked for more information on the identity of who was being hired, the question was never answered.

A tiny amount of research goes a long way. Much better than swallowing the OP and making yourself look silly.

One last tidbit:

www.washingtonpost.com...

For generations, civics students have learned that the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. Yesterday, the man who built the legal underpinnings of the Bush administration's terrorism strategy revised the curriculum.

John Yoo, the former Justice Department official whose writings justified the administration's treatment of military prisoners and the National Security Agency eavesdropping program, announced that Congress's warmaking powers are just a figment of the "popular imagination."

"Almost all the prominent scholars who believe that Congress should play a prominent role in foreign policy look to the 'declare war' clause as the source of Congress's power," Yoo said, 10 minutes into his talk at the Heritage Foundation. "They appeal to a very common-sense reading of the declare-war clause," he continued, and "I think in the popular imagination, declaring war does seem to equate with making war or starting war."

...

Todd F. Graziano, a legal specialist at the conservative think tank, rose to ask if Yoo had not gone far enough in circumscribing Congress's authority.

So, Graziano also thinks it's fine for the president to ignore Congress when choosing to wage war. Something I'd think ATS would not be too keen on...unless they want Obama to have that same power.

Originally posted by Erasurehead
reply to post by adifferentbreed
He attended Rev. Jeremiah Wrights racist white man hating church for 20 years and and it was ignored by the voters. All the self hating white people that voted for Obama ignored the fact that we was a member of a racist church and accepted Obama lies that he never realized that Rev. Wright preached hatred of the white man. What a bunch of dummies. You all get what you deserve.

Wait...so Obama isn't really a Muslim?

Next you'll say he isn't both a Nazi and a Communist at the same time, or a warmonger who wants to disarm America.

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What does any of what you posted have to do with the DOJ dropping what is clearly a case of voter intimidation? Who cares if the guy is a conservative? What bearing does it have on what the Black Panthers and the DOJ did?

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No he's not saying that, but a mudlim, in pursuit of the ultimate goal of converts and conquest for islum can and will sit where and for as long as he wants if it leads to the destruction of his enemies. The more devious and destructive the effort the greater praise from ulluh.