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Can you identify this chopper?

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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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Ordinarily I wouldn't even ask "can you identify" since ATS aircraft folks I believe can identify anything. But the problem here is, although this thing made a ton of noise warning me of its approach, by the time I got done fumbling around with my phone it was almost out of range. So frustrating since it flew right past me, argh!!

Anyway, here are the 2 shots I managed to get before it got out of range. I can't provide any other features because I was busy trying to get my camera phone up and running in time. Sorry about the low quality.







posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:01 PM
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I seen that helicopter on television before. Those copters usually pick up the President or carry military men.
www.popsci.com...
Here's a link about a similar copter.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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Pasecki h21 flying banana .maybe
www.bing.com...=2e1be9aaa2277a8412c02438c5949404&furl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.strangemilitary.com%2fim ages%2fcontent%2f122661.jpg



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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I would have to say chinook helicopter. I see then all the time



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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reply to post by camaro68ss
 

Same here looks like a Chinook
The Chinook are a main transport foe the US marines

[edit on 8-7-2010 by hillbilly4rent]



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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yup, a Chinook, made by Boeing



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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I was hoping it was a Chinook I was freaked out that it may be one of those double rotor UFOs



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:20 PM
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Looks like a Chinook to me...big as a bus, noisy as hell...



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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I googled it and I'm satisfied you guys are right, as usual. And yes, it was a NOISY mother.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:32 PM
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I don't like the way it looks for some reason.... the pylons at the rear indicate a CH-46 Sea Knight (Naval derivative of the CH-47 Chinook, more or less).

The problem is that its landing gear seem bowed outward, and the fuselage too thin. It also seems to have four sets of landing gear - though it is hard to tell.

As far as I can tell, you have two possibilities, the CH-46:







That one is much closer to the angle of your first shot - which seems to point more towards a CH-46.

It still looks a bit long and thin for a CH-46 - but that could just be due to the tree, there, making it seem longer than it really is.

However, the only other possibility I see (when it comes to tandem-rotor helicopters, which this clearly is) would be the Bristol Belvedere (or a modified version of it) .... though those are no longer in service, anywhere, that I know of (could have been a private collector or something, though).

The problem with that is that the Belvedere is a little TOO thin for the craft in your picture, and doesn't have pylons, but a sort of wing-like structure located at the extreme aft of the fuselage (not where the pylons are located on this one).

Which leads me to believe that it is a CH-46 Sea Knight with near 100% certainty.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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yeah your correct they call the one that picks up the president is designated marine one until it picks him up then they call it airforce one i THINK but yeah good eye!!



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:39 PM
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Thanks for that Aim. So let me ask, what exactly would I be looking for to tell the difference between a Chinook and a Sea Knight?



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by yuefo
Thanks for that Aim. So let me ask, what exactly would I be looking for to tell the difference between a Chinook and a Sea Knight?


Size. A CH-46 is about 45 feet long. Carry about 25 troops.

The CH-47 is about 98 feet long. Carry about 55 troops.

A CH-46 isn't "more or less" a naval version of the CH-47.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
I seen that helicopter on television before. Those copters usually pick up the President or carry military men.



Nope. The President uses a VH-3D or a VH-60N (V=VIP transport).


Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
www.popsci.com...
Here's a link about a similar copter.


VH-71 program got canx'ed due to cost overruns and they are looking for another.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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Your post got me to looking for something to compare and I found this. It doesn't look like the length difference is as great as you indicated. Anyway, so it is a CH-46, right?

mil.cnwest.com...

[edit on 7/8/2010 by yuefo]



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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reply to post by 12voltz
 


yep, you called it CH-21 flying banana, or two superimposed CH-46's....



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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That's a great set of drawings showing the difference between the two aircraft, but are they to scale?



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by freetree64
yep, you called it CH-21 flying banana, or two superimposed CH-46's....


Nope. The H-21 has vertical stabs on both sides of the tail, it's long and skinny, and doesn't have the sponsons that a 46 or 47 has.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by yuefo
reply to post by Aim64C
 


Thanks for that Aim. So let me ask, what exactly would I be looking for to tell the difference between a Chinook and a Sea Knight?


The CH-47 has four landing gear, the CH-46 has three in a tricycle arrangement.

The CH-46 also has the fuel pylons located at the rear that the CH-47 does not have (those things sticking out of the sides that the landing gear are mounted to).

There is a size difference - but it will be hard for anyone to tell the difference between the two based on their length.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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Can't see the rear well enough in the photo, one thing's for sure it definitely wasn't this model of the CH-46......


helicopterphotos.net...



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