Judge declares US gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

Originally posted by Christian Voice
You really have no arguement. You say you are not gay but could be for the right amount of money. That's actually quite pathetic.

People prostitute themselves every day for money. Does a person work for a company that s/he doesn't agree with their policy? That's prostitution of ones values. This prostitution is the same, only in the flesh, well, and values.

My question remains, how could I choose to be gay if I'm not attracted to men?

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My question is how could you become phisically aroused by the same sex if you were not gay? Completely different than working for a company you don't like. Money does not get a man hard, physical attraction does.

Originally posted by Christian Voice
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

I'm terribly sorry for what happened to you and I mean no offense to you. Most cases of sexual abuse the person tends to go to one extreme or the other. Not everytime. My sister was raped when she was 8 and she never fully recovered. She was extremely promiscuous and had no self esteem.

Yes the promiscuity happens, in many cases.

It took me a long time to understand how it effected me during my life I had no idea it caused so many of my mental problems and fears until I was older,

It never goes away, but you learn to understand .

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I'm out guys. The reader will see this debate. Good luck.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Christian Voice
You really have no arguement. You say you are not gay but could be for the right amount of money. That's actually quite pathetic.

People prostitute themselves every day for money. Does a person work for a company that s/he doesn't agree with their policy? That's prostitution of ones values. This prostitution is the same, only in the flesh, well, and values.

My question remains, how could I choose to be gay if I'm not attracted to men?

That's an epic point. Most peoples jobs have them knowingly be dishonest to the customer. Which is lying. Which is a big no-no. but it's okay for the almighty dollar from the beast system.

They excuse their lack of ethics due to the necessity to "live" which means they don't rely on God for nourishment and protection.

People who argue religion are just playing a shell game of continually shifting values that they can beast reason.

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Because the entire premise of your anti gay diatribes is RELIGIOUS.
you seem incable of grasping that your religion has nothing to do with secular ( US) law and is not endorsed by The Constitution, and has nothing to do with your Bible!
You have some nerve. You use YOUR interpretation of YOUR religion to tell OTHER PEOPLE what they may or may not do under color of law.
You use christianity as an excuse to be swarmy, judgemental, and downright ignorant to your fellow men. You are simply self righteous, and insufferably pompous.
OH NO! Is that a personal attack!
Well, you have CHOSEN to personaly attack many people with your sweeping statements of "abnormality" and the other pseudo Jesus inspired bile you spew. So, you have CHOSEN to be a pompous 'christian" know it all and i find it very offensive, just as i do when a NAZI posts here.
I am not under any obligation to nice to those that CHOOSE to be evil.

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My question remains, how could I choose to be gay if I'm not attracted to men?

he's cute?


I have a question I have been dying to ask,

OK ,

Intrepid made me think of it,

So why is there very often male female roles in homosexual relationships?

The masculine partner and the feminine one?

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by Christian Voice

 

I'm out guys. The reader will see this debate. Good luck.

Well don't leave now I had a good question.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by intrepid

 

My question remains, how could I choose to be gay if I'm not attracted to men?

he's cute?

I have a question I have been dying to ask,

OK ,

Intrepid made me think of it,

So why is there very often male female roles in homosexual relationships?

The masculine partner and the feminine one?

Ego. Someone always has to be in charge.

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I am feminine and I am in charge.



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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by mryanbrown

 

I am feminine and I am in charge.

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I don't see how that makes me wrong? xD Ego is not a sex.

Well it seems to me if you are really attracted to men you would want a manly man not one that looks and acts like a women,

So that sorta defeats the purpose, just get a women, the same goes with females,

I wonder how much is really about companionship more then the sexual aspect?

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
So why is there very often male female roles in homosexual relationships?

The masculine partner and the feminine one?

Just for you Storm. I think this is more prevalent in the lesbian community than with the guys. Gays tend to be more "partnered" if that makes sense.

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I am not trying to prove anyone wrong, just conversation.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
So why is there very often male female roles in homosexual relationships?

The masculine partner and the feminine one?

Just for you Storm. I think this is more prevalent in the lesbian community than with the guys. Gays tend to be more "partnered" if that makes sense.

Thanks intrepid, I am not sure if I understand the partnered thing,

and now the young girls call each other lipstick lesbians, some of it seem, like the in thing to do,

My youngest daughter says everyone is Bi now days, lol

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I blame the Eugenics and chemical castrations.

reply to post by OldDragger


Marriage is religious itself. Secular US law is for the individual, not for groups. Individual personal freedom.

Government simply should not be involved with marriage at all. Not for anything.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
My youngest daughter says everyone is Bi now days, lol

I can assure you that I'm definitely a lesbian.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


People are more comfortable imagining that there's usually a male and a female role. Some people are actually even more disconcerted that my partner and I are so masculine (in others estimation). We consider ourselves the same as our friends, but being a big Hillbilly and a bearded Québécois likely bump us up that butch scale in relation to all the city folk around us.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Well it seems to me if you are really attracted to men you would want a manly man not one that looks and acts like a women,

There are many different stages. Some men are both masculine, some both feminine. Same as for women. Please don't stereotype.

So that sorta defeats the purpose, just get a women, the same goes with females,

I wonder how much is really about companionship more then the sexual aspect?

As a gay masculine man who has been with his masculine partner for more than 8 years, I know your stereotype is incorrect. Please stop spreading this misinformation.

Carry on with the thread.

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