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Russian Bomber Incursions.."Inside the Ring"

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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:28 AM
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Russian Bomber Incursions.."Inside the Ring"


www.washingtontimes.com

Russia is continuing to fly strategic nuclear bombers near U.S. and Canadian airspace because the Russian military is seeking to maintain "the illusion of power," the commander of the U.S. Northern Command says.

Adm. Winnefeld, commander of the Colorado Springs-based Northcom. "They are trying to show the world that they are a powerful nation, and we're not giving them the satisfaction … ."
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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:28 AM
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"So we intercept them when we feel like we ought to, and we have various criteria that we use for that, to include just rehearsing our own skills to be able to do that."

In general, however, "we just leave them alone," he said,


FYO, these incursion flights by the Russians are continuing and are simply done to test our US northern defenses on one hand and to make the statement that Russia military is here and a power to be dealt with!


According to Northcom figures, so far this year there have been five jet intercepts of Russian bombers near U.S. or Canadian airspace. Last year, there were 17, and 12 in 2008 and 18 in 2007. By contrast, between 1999 and 2006 there were only 11 encounters in the air with the Russian bombers.


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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:39 AM
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I am not surprised that Russia is still doing this , actually would be more surprised to hear that they weren't doing this .

Having said that , I would be willing to bet that there is a defense mechanism in place that could deal with these craft without the need to even send a jet in to deal with them .



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:43 AM
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The next one that crosses the line we should shoot it down.
I bet they would think twice before doing it again for awhile.



Their tech is so far behind ours it is laughable.
They are truly clutching at straws just like the Chinese. Just remember everything you see today is 40 year old tech. To bad we had to bankrupt our country to do it.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:45 AM
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We've had a few of these 'flyovers' here in the UK lately, its not as worrying when you learn that Russian and UK pilots actually have contact with one another, actually sharing stories and even pictures etc.

Russian Tu-160 (blackjack) bombers were recently escorted over our airspace by British Tornado's, both sides letting each other know 'we know your here'. Its worrying when you think of the Tu-160's capabilities.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
Their tech is so far behind ours it is laughable.
They are truly clutching at straws just like the Chinese.

I hate disagreeing with a friend
but I think you need to look
a lil closer to this. January 2010



I don't find that laughable, sorry



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:55 AM
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The protocol the U.S. military used 10 years ago called for letting the first nuke hit a U.S. city and then hitting Russia with everything we have.

Star wars weapons were supposed to prevent one ICBM from getting off the ground. at least that's what we were told.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:01 AM
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Good point you rase and yes what a nice jet , but I have to wonder ... It's being sold on the open market ?

I find it a bit hard to believe that either the U.S or Russian would sell there top military hardware on the open market . I personally believe that both countries have better then they are showing .

As for the up and coming Chinese stealth jet , it will be nothing more then a close copy of this Russian one . The Chinese will buy one , take it apart and build there own copy , that logic has worked for them up until now .



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:13 AM
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Welcome back to the game Mother Russia!
Brings a tear to my eye. I miss the old days when we knew who our enemy was and knowing that if one farted in the wrong direction we and they would rain holy crap down on the other. Ahh the good old days of Détente.

Well they are flying their bombers near us we should fire up them there B-52s and while they are chasing them around we slide in with the B-2 oops.





posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by Max_TO
reply to post by boondock-saint
 


Good point you rase and yes what a nice jet , but I have to wonder ... It's being sold on the open market ?

lol
No, you misunderstood the video.
Russia is retiring some of their old
SU's and selling those on the open
market. Not the T-50's



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:18 AM
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Ah yes , the good old days when MAD actually worked . I guess thats the difference when your enemy is Atheist rather then fundamentalist .



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:19 AM
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Thanks for the correction



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:19 AM
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Selling it on the open market makes perfect sense. It will bring close to a trillion dollars for Russian defense industries. A lot of Air Forces around the world need upgrading, including Canada.

I don't know why we aren't going for the F/A-18E Superhornet to replace our aging CF-188s. Russia is looking at the rest of the worlds air forces and going "KACHING!". They know that any Nation looking to spend Billions upgrading their Air Forces are going to want Stealth capabilities. Russia will cash in big time selling them that while using the money they make to fund even better weapons systems.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:53 AM
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Meh........I doubt the Russians are alone in showing a presence near borders of other countries.

The U.S. never does this.........



The U.S is not "friends" with anyone. Russia is not "friends" with anyone.


You've got allies. But the alliances have restrictions.

Anybody who has been introduced to just a few hundred years of human history should surely see how it all goes.

It never changes.

All the laws, all the alliances, all the best wishes for your best bud, never changes the human desire to be in control and to be suspcious, even of your best friend.

It's the way it is. Yes, an individual might go beyond it all, but he/she is alone............and eventually, some other person (country) comes along and mucks it all up.

And then it starts anew.

There is no escape from this, as long as humans, are humans.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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Why should we get superhornets, we already have aged CF-18s. If the Canadian military had any intelligent commanders then we would be investing in Sukhois like the SU-35 and SU-32. Russian military aircraft are built to last in the same environments we have, unlike obscenely expensive American fighters.

As for the guy who said Tu-95s are ancient: Guess what, buddy, TU-95 was introduced a year after the B-52 was introduced into the American air force. So if you want to go off about how old and ineffective Russian bombers are then maybe you should look at your own capabilities first.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
The next one that crosses the line we should shoot it down.
I bet they would think twice before doing it again for awhile.



Their tech is so far behind ours it is laughable.
They are truly clutching at straws just like the Chinese. Just remember everything you see today is 40 year old tech. To bad we had to bankrupt our country to do it.


America would be in so many wars if other countries just shot us down when we crossed there lines. America is known for testing other countries. www.abovetopsecret.com...
That is a good example.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Phlynx

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
The next one that crosses the line we should shoot it down.
I bet they would think twice before doing it again for awhile.



Their tech is so far behind ours it is laughable.
They are truly clutching at straws just like the Chinese. Just remember everything you see today is 40 year old tech. To bad we had to bankrupt our country to do it.


America would be in so many wars if other countries just shot us down when we crossed there lines. America is known for testing other countries. www.abovetopsecret.com...
That is a good example.




I know we do it also and to tell you the truth we should get our plans shot down if we do it and are trying to provoke.

The pilot error thing must be taken into account but when it is over and over again we need to act.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
Their tech is so far behind ours it is laughable.
They are truly clutching at straws just like the Chinese.

I hate disagreeing with a friend
but I think you need to look
a lil closer to this. January 2010



I don't find that laughable, sorry




Hi buddy nice to see you, I am talking about what we dont see. All this money has to be going somewhere. And I believe we have tech that is mind blowing just waiting for the need.


Dont get me wrong Russia is number 2 in the world but we are so far away form even the second spot it is really crazy at this point.


We dont need to be this far advanced. When your country is spending the amount that every other country is put together. something is very wrong. But we do have the best military man has ever seen but at what cost?



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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"...maintain 'the illusion of power,' "

That's a really weird thing for the commander to say. Does he think they won't hear about him saying this? Irresponsible.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
The next one that crosses the line we should shoot it down.
I bet they would think twice before doing it again for awhile.


Well, that makes about Zero sense. The US and Russians have been doing this for years. No big deal.



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