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reply posted on 8-7-2010 @ 11:44 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by Azp420



That is a good argument, but I've already worked that out for myself. Although there are more humans, there are much less animals and diversity in nature.

If there is on central life force and it is manifested in many ways, then reincarnation can be accounted for. Maybe a flower is a small part of a life force, and a Giant Redwood is another larger part. A 200 year old sea turtle that has explored and experienced things that man only dreams of, and a tiny worker bee that is truly a selfless member of a society.

Who are we to assume that our soul is the most important one? I envy the turtle and the bee and the mighty oak. If I do a half decent job on this go around, I hope to experience things differently from a better perspective next time.


reply posted on 8-7-2010 @ 11:53 PM by 11118


The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while.

Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we...kill those people.

"Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real."

It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok...

But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love.

The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.



- Bill Hicks




(Question had to do with negative entities not reincarnation)

Ra: I am Ra. To give you this information would be to infringe upon the free will or confusion of some living. We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences. It is the importance placed upon it.

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to being-ness.



-Ra
lawofone.info...

The first quote is a favorite, the second quote; however is one of the most moving statements I've come across.


reply posted on 9-7-2010 @ 01:36 AM by OrphenFire
Originally posted by FearNoEvil
reply to
post by zzombie


Interesting.

I always thought it was interesting that Mary didn't recognize Jesus after He was resurrected.


How could he reincarnate as a fully mature man in just three days? It would take at least 9 months just to gestate within a womb, plus 33 years to reach his full age. If my math is correct, then that makes no sense.

I think a more logical explanation as to why people didn't recognize Jesus, or even believe him (Thomas) is because Jesus died, and never resurrected. They stole Jesus' body and then had some man pretend to be Jesus for awhile.

Anyway, as for reincarnation... It is believable at a spiritual level, but science has yet to catch up with it. I will remain skeptical, but hopeful... as I wish to reincarnate as a wild wolf.


reply posted on 9-7-2010 @ 01:49 AM by keepithush
reply to post by hawkiye



He a believer who documented 3000 cases of believers in reincarnation with a story to tell, this is like when a catholic priest documents 3000 cases of his flock's personal miracle stories or a UFO believer documenting 3000 Alien abductees, the end result will always be the one you look for if you dig hard enough and use the right subject matter.

It's amazing how many cases of "I was Henry VIII" or "I was Marilyn Monroe" there is.
Past life regretion is a joke and should be made illegal because they implant and push for the subject to make things up until they believe there own bullsh...

What about going from the evidence from researchers who find its all piffle?
Like picking Greer over Dr Joe Average on proof for UFO's IMO.

I guess the best thing to do is ask Dr. Ian Stevenson, He died in 88, surely by now he would have come back to confirm all this?

[edit on 9-7-2010 by keepithush]


reply posted on 9-7-2010 @ 02:14 AM by queenannie38
reply to post by 11118



beautiful!!!

if we quit war on this planet, there would be no more hunger or lack of schooling or shelter for anyone...no need for disease because vaccinations could be provided free to everyone ...water sources made accessible and clean

The United Nations has estimated the cost of ending world hunger at about $195 billion a year. The United States spent $742 billion on defense in 2009.

742 - 195 = 547 billion dollars a year, left over.


reply posted on 9-7-2010 @ 03:32 AM by Frakkerface
reply to post by queenannie38



It could be that person, i will have to look through some books to see what the reference was. That looks a little less professional and scientific than i remember it sounding but could be.


reply posted on 9-7-2010 @ 03:32 AM by hawkiye
Originally posted by keepithush
reply to
post by hawkiye



He a believer who documented 3000 cases of believers in reincarnation with a story to tell, this is like when a catholic priest documents 3000 cases of his flock's personal miracle stories or a UFO believer documenting 3000 Alien abductees, the end result will always be the one you look for if you dig hard enough and use the right subject matter.

It's amazing how many cases of "I was Henry VIII" or "I was Marilyn Monroe" there is.
Past life regretion is a joke and should be made illegal because they implant and push for the subject to make things up until they believe there own bullsh...

What about going from the evidence from researchers who find its all piffle?
Like picking Greer over Dr Joe Average on proof for UFO's IMO.

I guess the best thing to do is ask Dr. Ian Stevenson, He died in 88, surely by now he would have come back to confirm all this?

[edit on 9-7-2010 by keepithush]


No it's not like personal miracle stories where you can't verify the facts. How do you account for the evidence that the memories the children had in all 3000 cases were accurate of the persons life and verified by relatives, circumstances, addresses and scars and medical records etc. etc.?

He is not just saying he listened to 3000 past life stories and thinks they are true. He spent 40 years verifying the stories were true by researching the person who a child claimed to be and verifying everything the child said about that life with verifiable facts of the persons life. If you want to just dismiss 40 years of research with hard provable evidence then you are just being obstinate and have no interest in the facts and evidence and are just proffering an emotional argument to support your belief despite the facts.

[edit on 9-7-2010 by hawkiye]


reply posted on 9-7-2010 @ 04:10 AM by Eitak
Originally posted by guavas
I must confess that I have already drawn my own personal conclusion regarding the efficacy of reincarnation (after studying Hinduism).

Reincarnation simply doesn't make any sense when it comes to "spiritual growth."

Reincarnation in my mind is exactly the same thing as punishing your child without disclosing the reason behind the punishment.

Say I have a kid who reaches for a hot stove - and say I slug him each time he reaches for the stove - but never reveal why I slugged him.

How the hell is he supposed to learn from that? Punishment is but one of many tools by which to teach. If there's no lesson taught behind the punishment being administered, it simply serves no purpose - spiritual or otherwise. The punishment simply becomes abuse and I will not abide by a belief system that condones and encourages the senseless abuse of "fresh souls," if you will. Just because you're a new kid on the block does not mean it's A-OK to pound the hell out of you simply because you haven't learned the ropes yet.

I mean, really, how is one supposed to break free of one's own Karmic Bonds if one never understands exactly what exactly it was they're being punished for? If I was reincarnated as a tree or something as punishment for being a colossal d-bag in a past life, being a tree certainly isn't going to teach me anything spiritual - and being reincarnated twice since isn't going to teach me anything about being the tree that was supposed to teach me about being a colossal d-bag in the first place - because I don't remember any of it.

So I'm gonna get punished for things I'm not even consciously aware of having done in the first place?

How does this make sense?


It makes PERFECT sense when it comes to spiritual growth.

If only man tried harder to imagine things from other people's perspectives. If only we tried harder to imagine how other's feel.

Well, there's a lot to learn from living one life as a selfish rich person who has everything and coming back as a homeless person who has nothing. Think about it.
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