Israel asks US to boost weapons supply

Israel asks US to boost weapons supply

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Tel Aviv has asked Washington to increase its weapons capability in the Middle East as part of efforts for Israel to have a strategic advantage over its Arab neighbors.

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According to Haaretz, the request was made with Israel arguing that the parts and supplies would be used in attacks on many targets during a possible "prolonged war" in the future.

Prolonged war, what does that mean?

The empire wants Iran wiped off the map, Iran probably knows, that is why sent a letter to EU, the good cop of the empire.

The empire is warning Iran under the pretext of Nuclear proliferation, to foul the world population and for PR reasons.

The letter was sent to set the conditions for negotiations.

In the letter, the secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, Saeed Jalili, said Tehran is ready to sit at the negotiating table after its conditions for talks are met.

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reply to post by LittleSecret


No. Iran could be destroyed by Israel's bombs now. Easily.

This is in regard to the ultimate future of the region some 20 years down the road. When we run out of food to feed the Chinese dragon and she goes to find some for herself.

Currently most of our wars in these nations is for China. Most oil goes there. Even in Iraq, we let Asia have most of the oil, we get some less than 40%.


Iran could never have a long war with the west. China could.

Currently the P5+1 are one, because they agree to share oil. When oil gets lessened as China industrializes, we can only hope to be off our oil addiction by then.

Maybe if they stopped shooting at unarmed civilians on a daily basis, they would not run out of bullets.

A question has to be asked, that if Israel has not been at war for years, where has all the weapons gone ?

reply to post by thedeadtruth


hamas and Hezbollah. They didn't get those M4s and M16s from no where.

reply to post by Gorman91


If Israel attacks Iran, there will be retaliation.

That retaliation will be the long war.

Israel doesn't have the means, the will power, nor the alliance to completely attack and cripple Iran without having to start a greater war.

Therefore if Israel decides to just attack the nuclear facilities then there will be a retaliation which would spark an all out war therefore bring the Western troops to take control of Iran.

No one wants to destroy Iran, they just want it for themselves./

And in regards to China, China already bought the US ^^

No more aid to these guys NO MORE. And I dont just want them to get cut off but all the countries we give aid and weapons to.


We have big problems at home. Lets clean up our own backyard first. We need jobs and to stop the oil leak.

[edit on 8-7-2010 by Subjective Truth]

reply to post by Gorman91


hamas and Hezbollah. They didn't get those M4s and M16s from no where.


Are you saying they managed to steal all their weapons from Israel???

I find that hard to believe!!!

reply to post by Subjective Truth


I agree.

I find it almost comical that the WH continually pushes to dissarm the average American,
yet freely gives arms to any rag tag bunch of cave dwellers that suits their agenda...

reply to post by virgom129


Arent they trying to disarm the Iranian rag-tag bunch? Or do you see Israeli as cavedwellers? I always thought, the NRA is pro-zionist?

reply to post by virgom129


No. I'm saying that it likely came from US sources. You don;t need to steal.


It's just interesting that these terrorists conveniently got US weaponry right before the war with Israel.

Not saying they stole them. I'm saying they got them, and guns don't come from no where. Perhaps a Lord of War like figure.

reply to post by LittleSecret


China did indeed buy the US. That is why we do the war fighting. We are feeding the dragon. It is a form of debt payment, I suppose. As long as we feed China oil, they have no reason to get involved.

As to Israel, the Us pretty much bought every Arabic nation except Syria and Iran. Syria has a UN army occupying it for the last 20 odd years, and Iran has no one to ask for help from.

That's pretty much the facts. If Iran had a true ally to help, they would not be so nationalistic. Nationalism naturally grows out of being alone and weak. Nazi Germany, Japan, Colonial US. All alone and weak. All used nationalism to become world powers. Iran is doing the same.

No one wants a war with Iran, because it means soiled food for the Dragon for about a year. And the Dragon will not be happy. Though they will go with us in the end, because we have the food.

Sometimes I ponder if the US has some super secret energy source they don't want to use until the world is addicted to oil. That way the Us can release itself from oil with this technology, and then the US can sell it to whoever wants it, thereby getting out of debt and becoming the NWO.


(PS, sorry for double posting so close)

[edit on 8-7-2010 by Gorman91]

reply to post by thedeadtruth


More arms! KILL KILL KILL! YES!

Is there no end to mankind's stupidity?

Hey, here's a good idea! Let's just keep killing each other forever and spending all our money on that!

Instead of saving our planet. So, everyone keeps killing, the planet dies, and we all die.

reply to post by catwhoknows


Planet can't die. it's immortal till the sun goes boom.

We can die. And to be honest, us extinct would be better off for all of us.

reply to post by Gorman91


I just have to wonder how many,

Americans are killed by American weapons?

Russians killed by Russian weapons?

British killed by British weapons?

It just doesn't make sense to the average man

reply to post by Gorman91


2 points I disagree, first, Iran has many allies, all across the world in fact. Think about it, Iran is not lonely lol, Iran seems lonely and evil in Western media, that is how they are portrayed.

Let me elaborate, Iran even considering the empire's sanctions, has the world's 6th largest economy. It has done very well, and Iran is not isolated, heard of South American states? South Africa? All the countries which are not part of the empire, and are strong enough to have their say support Iran and have normal relations with Iran.

Europe is part of the empire, Middle East is part of the empire, much of Africa is part of the empire, etc.

Second point I disagree with is the notion that no one wants war with Iran.

I guess we live in two different worlds. The reason why the empire can't go to war at the moment is due to its weakness. One more conflict, or war the empire might collapse like the USSR. The empire is already struggling in Afghanistan.

Don't forget, the empire has already used terrorists to try to destabilize Iran.

Once that is won, then maybe the empire can fight Iran.

Also the empire has too many territories with uprising, even in the US there is a potential of civil war. Iran and South American states could easily detach the US from the empire, divide and conquer.

The empire is not ready to loose the US, nor was it ready to loose Japan therefore orchestrated that attack sinking a S-Korean naval ship.

reply to post by LittleSecret


Actually, the African Union and South American Union are both heavily financed by western economies and Dependant on it. So you can count them out, seeing as they have their own issues to deal with.

And as a citizen of this so called empire, I rarely hear much about Iran. Fox news is too busy bashing Obama and the rest are in the gulf. There's been an almost dead story on Iran for the past few months.

Next point would be that Iran would be a hard war. The US is currently in over 20 nations actively engaging a war across the world. It also has a crap ton of military deals to much of the world to sell its current military off.

Since 2008 onto 2016, the US is upgrading its military. last time this happened in the late 80s, it was a fire sale. We see the results of this in the fact that Iran has those sell offs, as does most nations in the middle east.

You can bet your arse that anybody wanting to show off wants their hands on outdated Abrams and Bradley IFVs. So they won't so anything to get a hold on that technology.

back to what I said, the US is in over 20 nations in the war on terror. So iran would not exactly be adding to the bunch.

This, btw, is known as the Bush-Obama secret war.

Anywho, Iran would not actually be invaded. It would be a redo of the first gulf war. Effectively, mainly an air war, with some limited troop entry on the borders. We would leave sooner than we entered.

You see, for all things considered, Iran is fine and dandy. They like our aid that we pay to them (until these most recent sanctions), and they sell oil to whoever wants it. No problem here. the P5+1 simply do not want more nuclear missiles out there.

That's really the only point to any assault. Take out the research facilities, then leave.

No one wants to occupy a nation that's never been conquered in over 3000 years. That would be called retarded.

Any war or military actions would be just that, a war. And it would not last more than 3 weeks.

Then we go down 2 roads., Either Iran goes the way of N Korea and shuts itself off from the world, or goes the way of post-war 1950 Japan, and becomes a thriving economic powerhouse.

Logic dictates the Japan direction because the people are already free. There is no way to turn a free people into a N Kora style dictatorship. Once people have freedom, they will not let it go.

Thus what we are looking at is a future Japan essentially. Only it won;t have a fail economy because unlike Japan, Iran has more than tourism to sell to the world.

reply to post by virgom129


Russia collapsed and had a 5 finger discount. So any Russian with a gun could shoot the guards and get all the Aks he could want, then sell.

America traditionally sells its military hardware off every 20-40 years. The last time this happened was late 1980s. The US is once again upgrading its military and selling off the old to her allies. So anybody willing to buy can get them.

It does not make sense because it is illogical. I suppose if they didn't sell their military hardware, they would have no one to fight 20 years down the road?

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reply to post by Gorman91



The planet may die.

And mankind deserves to die before all the innocent animals.




And

How about we worry this much about prolonged peace? What do you say? You know, I think countries with this kind of mentality...so obsessed with death weapons and war and the idea that everyone is out to get them...are dangerous.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


The USA is a killing machine as well as others.

Everyone wants to wage war.

Except, NZ does not want to wage war, nor does Australia.

This time we will not be involved in your wars and let our young men be wiped out.