Hello guys.

Yesterday, I was watching a special french TV show , based on Irak, Saddam Hussein and the USA and GWB Jr.

A guest, who's also a great french policy maker, told to the public 2 things who were really weird and unbelievable.

1) GWB Jr has many advisers, but the real core of his advisers is done with former US Democrat.

Also, he told that these advisers were all from the Democrat left-wing, and NOT from the Democrat right-wing when they were Democrat.

I can't understand how former democrats ( and from the left-wing of the democrat party ) can be now republican adviser for Georges Bush Jr. It was sounding to muh unbelievable, until I started to think : " My God, the President advisers are STILL hard-leftist democrat. What's this trap ? What do they want to do ? "

2) He told a second thing. That France was doing a terrible mistake by not following and helping the USA, and France would regret her actual position.

Of course, I agree with him !

But when he sayed that France had to join the USA and Great-Brittain in a N.W.O, I was chocked. His words were : " A NWO is comming and it will be lead by the Occident, and France has to be part of it. "

He was deadly serious and nobody hasn't sayed anything after him.

Now, I've only 3 letters to write and my post will be finished : WTF ????????????????

I find it hard to believe. Bush is and was a conservative, not a liberal. Nothing he does or says is the mark of a liberal.

Maybe the speaker had an incomplete understanding of how the US government operates? There are committes that the President is involved with and listens to, and many of them help him make policies. There are liberal Democrats on some of them.

But they aren't the ones telling him what to do.

I can't think of any of his advisors that are or were dems. Hughes, Card, Rove, and most everyone else have been staunch Republicans. (working for the elder Bush and/or Reagan)

Oddly, a former advisor to Cheney (Mary Matalin) is married to Democrat huckster James Carville.

Clinton had Dick Morris.

Don't worry Ultra P. ñ You can still count on the Republicans!!!

It's too bad more people haven't heard of the NWO. That way we might know exactly what the NWO stands for and what they want to do.

It's not that I haven't hear of it, and most people I know well here have heard of the 'nwo' also. It's probably just that we've dismissed it at this point or never believed in it to begin with, especially in 'conspiracy' sense of it.

who was this "great French policy-maker"? I'm hard pressed to think of one since Louis Quatorze -was this a very old guest?
As for Dems in with Bush: there are all manner of business-types who work with either party; but I'm not sure I can think of much beyond the ill-fated attempt to put Mitchell in with Kissinger on the "Commission".

Originally posted by Bob88
I can't think of any of his advisors that are or were dems. Hughes, Card, Rove, and most everyone else have been staunch Republicans. (working for the elder Bush and/or Reagan)

Oddly, a former advisor to Cheney (Mary Matalin) is married to Democrat huckster James Carville.

Clinton had Dick Morris.

Don't worry Ultra P. ñ You can still count on the Republicans!!!

I hope you right BoB88. But I wrote it, he was looking deadly serious when he sayed what he sayed on the NWO and these so-called former democrat who are now advisor for GWB Jr. And this guy is a french right-winger who is pro-USA/Bush, so, I'm skeptic and I don't understand why he sayed these thing on the NWO and GWB Jr.

Ah, U-P: the astounding Madelin, "La grenouille qui voulait devenir aussi grosse qu'un boeuf": currently living off the fat of the land as an MEP. Certainly well known in France -all over the media and the Net: pretty much "inconnu" anywhere else. And "well known" rather than great: a very middling finance minister.
His politics defy description: he's a right-wing free-marketeer liberal democrat who has been known to claim to: "Je suis le plus social des candidats": "toutes choses" to "tous hommes" - a self-seeking scoundrel, a one-time favourite of Le BÈbÍte ( French Spitting Image, if that rings a bell with posters).
A splendid example of the endless variety of French politics and a clear reminder that the mad politicians aren't all in Washington or Pyongyang.
I've never read anything in English about him; but if posters have French he's worth a read: guaranteed a chuckle. I know about him purely because of my longstanding fascination with an answer to the as-yet- unanswered question: "Is there anything Western voters won't let politicians get away with?"

So Estragon, you know mister Madelin ? And you know him pretty well I see.

But finding, on ATS, someones who knows the former " bÍbÍte show ", THAT'S INCREDIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I don't agree with you. Madelin is not crazy and he's very different from the peoples that we can find in Pyongyang.

Originally posted by Estragon
a one-time favourite of Le BÈbÍte ( French Spitting Image, if that rings a bell with posters).
ESTRAGON, you are really late on french fresh news, Le Bebete show (a caricature of muppet-show) disappears since middle 80's.

Alain MADELIN is a french "great politic wanna be" !
He was president of Democrat Union French (In france Democrats are in center, Republican (Gaullists) in right and Socialists (Genetically unamerican since cold-war) are left.

I don't do badly on the day-to-day French media, for a "rosbif"; but my allusion will give you a clue as to how long I've been investigating sin and looking for Weapons of Mass Debauchery, in Asia.