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Bolton: Even Israeli Attack Against Iranian Nuclear Program Would Be Supported in Arab World

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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 04:03 AM
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Haven't seen this posted yet.

"They're not going to say that publicly, and they know they can't do anything to stop it. But they would privately welcome an Israeli attack on Iran."

"If the Israelis attack, we're going to get blamed for it anyway, so we might as well help them out."




He also says Obama is not actively explaining Afghanistan.

And he says opinion polls show "support for an American military option against Iran, and support for Israel...."

This neocon female dog makes my skin crawl.

[edit on 7/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]




posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 04:25 AM
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And in 2009 on the subject...



And in 2008..



And in 2007...



And in 2006...

Tenacious little doggie...



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:00 AM
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He might be an A$$ but most of what he says is true this time.

Not all, but alot, of the Arab countries would support a strike as a last resort. Arabs mostly look down on the persians.

Secondly it is fact that polls show the american public in the majority support military action if needed and also support Israel.

Whether these things are right or not is for another debate but facts are facts with regard to this thread.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:11 AM
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While this may be true, and I agree it would be pretty typical of the non-confrontational, non-stance taking, weak leadership that typifies the Middle East, it's still pretty blatant on a lot of levels how this cultural thing is being used by the neocons to push their real agenda.

We know the UAE has just weighed in...or at least their ambassador to the U.S. has. Turkey has been pretty straightforward with their views. Saudi Arabia is, well, Saudi Arabia, and is probably more the source of terrorism these same neocons speak of than Iran is. Syria would probably not agree, but then again, they're on "the list" for colonization too. It's a SNAFU anyway you slice it.

I'm going to see how some of the other countries might be weighing in. Interesting tidbit I just found on Jordan...

Who's afraid of the Jordanian atom?

Also an interesting observation regarding Eqypt and Jordan...



As a non-Arab Muslim state, neo-conservatives viewed Turkey as an important part of a security belt to protect Israel - a buffer between the Muslim world on one side and Israel and the West on the other - and those who sought to fully integrate Israeli security goals into US national security policy, saw Turkey as a more reliable ally than Arab states like Egypt and Jordan. Source


I'm also trying to track down this "poll" he refers to where most Americans are for a strike on the Iranian nuclear facilities. This Pew Poll is the closest I've come so far for recent polls, and I'm not even sure it's recent. I can't seem to find it on Pew, but then Pew baffles me at times.



Plus, I just wanted to let him know, he doesn't speak for me.


[edit on 7/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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That man is a total idiot should send people like him to the front line.
He should have asked him about Iraq's WMD i remember he was always on about them before the Iraq war.

He says they will not be a ground war so Iran is just going to sit around and let them bomb away he must be on something.

Thankyou



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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Here's a VERY interesting analysis of what looks to be the same poll...from Ynet. Ahem.

Very weird how this article doesn't even MENTION the American numbers.

Poll: Globe backs Iran strike

Please note the part circled in red. That's pretty critical. I haven't found the poll itself on Pew, but did find this chart. All references to this poll seem to be ignoring the part about "asked only of those who oppose Iran acquiring nuclear weapons."



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:49 AM
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And then there's this to consider...

Non-Aligned Movement's support for Iran's nuclear programme

Iran's representative to IAEA: Non-Aligned Movement member-countries support Tehran's agreement

The Non-Aligned Movement is 118 countries.

1. Afghanistan
2. Algeria
3. Angola
4. Antigua and Barbuda
5. Bahamas
6. Bahrain
7. Bangladesh
8. Barbados
9. Belarus
10. Belize
11. Benin
12. Bhutan
13. Bolivia
14. Botswana
15. Burma (Myanmar)
16. Brunei
17. Burkina Faso
18. Burundi
19. Cambodia
20. Cameroon
21. Cape Verde
22. Central African Republic
23. Chad
24. Chile
25. Colombia
26. Comoros
27. Congo
28. Côte d'Ivoire
29. Cuba
30. Democratic Republic of the Congo
31. Djibouti
32. Dominica
33. Dominican Republic
34. Ecuador
35. Egypt
36. Equatorial Guinea
37. Eritrea
38. Ethiopia
39. Gabon
40. Gambia
41. Ghana
42. Grenada
43. Guatemala
44. Guinea
45. Guinea-Bissau
46. Guyana
47. Haiti
48. Honduras
49. India
50. Indonesia
51. Iran
52. Iraq
53. Jamaica
54. Jordan
55. Kenya
56. Kuwait
57. Laos
58. Lebanon
59. Lesotho
60. Liberia
61. Libya
62. Madagascar
63. Malawi
64. Malaysia
65. Maldives
66. Mali
67. Mauritania
68. Mauritius
69. Mongolia
70. Morocco
71. Mozambique
72. Namibia
73. Nepal
74. Nicaragua
75. Niger
76. Nigeria
77. North Korea
78. Oman
79. Pakistan
80. Palestine
81. Panama
82. Papua New Guinea
83. Peru
84. Philippines
85. Qatar
86. Rwanda
87. Saint Lucia
88. Saint Kitts and Nevis
89. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
90. São Tomé and Príncipe
91. Saudi Arabia
92. Senegal
93. Seychelles
94. Sierra Leone
95. Singapore
96. Somalia
97. South Africa
98. Sri Lanka
99. Sudan
100. Suriname
101. Swaziland
102. Syria
103. Tanzania
104. Thailand
105. Timor-Leste
106. Togo
107. Trinidad and Tobago
108. Tunisia
109. Turkmenistan
110. Uganda
111. United Arab Emirates
112. Uzbekistan
113. Vanuatu
114. Venezuela
115. Vietnam
116. Yemen
117. Zambia
118. Zimbabwe



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:50 AM
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Just like the Iraqis will greet the US troops with flowers
and then the US got busted PAYING the miniscule little bunch of people
that cheered Saddam's statue being pulled down....

Bolton ranks right down there with Rummy, Wolfowitz et al...

I don't see Canada on that list....
Oh yeah, silly me.... our PM was elected in Israel



[edit on 7-7-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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The thing is there is no proof that Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb same as Iraq never had WMD it's like someone said America and its alise would never pic a fight with Iran if it had nuclear weapons.

It will happen of that there is no doubt it's all following the way Iraq started all they need is a little false flag then all those who say bomb away will wish they did not.

Thankyou



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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I realize this. In addition, I just read something about the D8.


Developing 8

and this

Ahmadinejad hails Iran-Mali solidarity

"D-8, also known as Developing-8, is an arrangement for development cooperation among the following countries: Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Egypt, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Pakistan."

Pakistan. A country so loose with their nukes we sent troops over to help guard them? Who Israel isn't going to "strike" because they 1.) already have nukes and 2.) are sort of rogue when it comes to the whole terrorism issue.

Turkey and Egypt.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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I was of the thinking that Egypt was in Isreal's pocket

And that list you put up in support of Iran has Iraq and Afganistan on there strange.

Thankyou



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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To anyone who thinks we have no business in Iran: I work for two persians who fled Iran and were lucky to escape with their lives. They both agree it is a twisted and evil country who's government should be wiped off the face of the earth.

No country who practices stone-age torture on their citizens should be allowed in a global community. Burying people up to their waists (or necks if they are women) and stoning them in the face to death?

Destroy the evil, religious government and deprogram the masses.

I think those of you who are brainwashed and support the Iranian regime should be sentenced to live there for a few years. Then come back to us and tell us you're in favor of them having nuclear capabilities.

[edit on 7/7/2010 by pjslug]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:40 AM
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People who flee because the government in power is not friendly to them typically do not have kind things to say about a place. How long ago did they flee?

In addition, it is not the practice of the entire country to stone people to death from what I understand, just certain sects. They are working to influence that, and is it really of any significance to this thread?

My father's best friend is Persian, and I love listening to his perspectives on this entire situation. He can get emotional but he can also put on his objective hat.

If Israel strikes and wipes out all the nuclear sites, there will be no evidence as to whether they were right or wrong all these years, now will there. And we shall never know, and another myth and lie shall become someone's history.


[edit on 7/7/2010 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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I agree with you in part and NO i do not support there goverment.

The thing i have a problem with is we are already in two wars that is costing god knows how many innocent lives and money.

Then theres talk of surgical strikes not ground war which we all know will turn into war that will spread for what because they THINK Iran MIGHT be trying to build a nuclear weapon and most of the inteligentce most likely comes from Isreal thats my problem with this.

The bit that i agree with you is there practices stone-age torture as you said.But the part about them been brainwashed are we any different


Edit my post to add this.



MESS Report / Mubarak's health seriously deteriorating, possibly from cancer
Gamal Mubarak, the Egyptian president’s youngest son, is considered a near shoo-in to inherit his father’s mantle if the elder Mubarak does not seek another term as president.

Linkwww.haaretz.com...
This is a jewish source so don't know if true.But how would this play into situation anyone


Thankyou


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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 08:03 AM
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And exactly how does it make it right, you senile old warmonger? It's no secret that the sellout Arabs harbor disdain towards the Persians. Hell, the Arabs are always in-fighting each other. Who cares what they think? The Saudis are warmongers, just like the Zionist elite. That's no secret nor is it a surprise.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 08:40 AM
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People appear to be all over the place on this issue...speaking out of turn or non-officially, then being challenged, and then issuing retractions. Happened with the Saudi airspace issue, and now this.

UAE official: No use of force against Iran

Iran MP Slams U.A.E. Envoy Remarks, Says Tours May Be Suspended

UAE official backs use of force against Iran

UAE Diplomat Endorses U.S. Strike on Iran



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 08:47 AM
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Bolton is wrong alot of times i have seen him.

I doubt seriously people around the world want this to happen, and its just the americans mostly who back this sort of action, as america is all powerful and nobody touches them, or there allies do they.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 10:56 AM
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The man really believes in this, that's for sure. I'd love to see a list of the countries he believes will welcome a strike. Again, a strike would conveniently erase all evidence either proving or disproving that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:24 PM
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But even surgical strikes might not work how many sites are there

And some deep under ground.

And lets not forget Iran is not just going to sit there and let this happen there will be payback.

Petrol cost's too much now here in UK just think how much it would cost after said strikes
power cuts food shortages so on so on.

I do hope it never comes to this but i feel the decision was made a long time ago they just do not tell the slaves


Thankyou



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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If Iran would allow their facilities to be inspected (on a regular basis), there would be no need for any of this if they are innocent. But they refuse to let anyone see what they are doing. Therefore they have 3 choices:

1) sanctions
2) eradication of their facilities
3) war

1 could very well lead to 2, which could very well lead to 3.



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