reply to post by evil incarnate
It is shocking and it seems to happen a lot. Still, these police officers have certain rules and parameters to follow when gathering information from
a witness or suspect. No matter how heinous or vile a crime may be an individual is entitled to their rights. To bad this father and the other in the
Riley Fox case had to spend time behind bars.
It is odd for people to confess and cooperate when they are entitled to “Miranda Rights.” As soon as they slap the cuffs on someone, they have to
give that person a notice of their rights. However, in an informal interview setting police can do what ever they wish. Changing tempo of the
interview, long and drawn out breaks between questioning, making the interview last forever causing frustration and fatigue in the person being
question, exploiting the seriousness of the crime while preying on emotions, and other devious techniques to arouse suspicions in someone’s
In the case of Hobbs, he was a convicted felon and spent time behind bars in Texas. I am certain police used that component of his past to their
advantage to obtain his confession. Threatening him with the death penalty and a lifetime behind bars. To them, Hobbs was a perfect suspect in
bringing the case to closure and putting the townspeople at ease. However, as it was said, no physical evidence tying him to the crime was ever found.
That alone is a red flag. They did not follow-up or corroborate on his confession. He was certainly coerced in giving that confession, and the law
enforcement officers who conducted it ought to be reprimanded as well as the prosecutor. Now through the act of cutting corners and turning a innocent
man’s life upside down it is going to cost taxpayers millions in a lawsuit. Even more grim, the man truly responsible was allowed to run free
unopposed by police. The DNA match is to a person in custody in Virginia on unrelated crimes.
reply to post by Replikant
June 25, the DNA from the crime scene found a match in the national DNA data bank, Lake County prosecutors said this week. The match is to a DNA
sample taken from Jorge "George" Torrez, a 21-year-old ex-Marine who was stationed at Fort Myer until his arrest in Arlington in February, law
enforcement sources said.
Twenty-hours is a heck of a long time to question someone. Incidents like this one only makes the police look bad and feeds resentment among the
people. At the very least, what happened to corroborating someone’s statement to definitively prove or disprove the truth or falsehood of a suspect
or witness statement? Perhaps the police had outside pressures on them to solve this crime as quickly as possible? Still, that is no excuse and they
have rules they must abide by. The father seems to have been railroaded from the start of all this? He ought to sue for as much as he can get. No
physical evidence and they charge someone with a double-murder? Talk about cutting corners and forgetting to dot the I’s and crossing the T’s.
Just another travesty of justice.
reply to post by 12m8keall2c
Very good points,12m8keall2c! This is a fine example as to why the mob should never be allowed to determine a person’s innocence or guilt. It boils
down to the police doing the right thing and having a little integrity for their jobs. Who cares what the townspeople are saying, what is in the
press, and about the subtle threats by their supervisors and the prosecutors office.
I would rather be fired, but at least have my self respect. These police put an innocent man behind bars and may have very well received the death
penalty for this crime. How can they look at themselves in the mirror everyday after putting an innocent man away? That is something I having a
difficult time grasping. Thank goodness they got this one right, and the true suspect was found before this father was put away for life or given the
death penalty. In agreement with you,
and as you say:
reply to post by awakentired
The facts Ma'am ... just the facts
Your brother is correct and people should demand their “Miranda Rights.” Then at the very least tell the police point blank, “Am I under arrest,
if not; I have nothing more to say.” With that they may arrest a person on suspicion. If so, that when one should ask to see an attorney
immediately. The police probably used Hobb’s criminal past against him. That is what it sounds like to me. Still, he is innocent until proven
guilty. If the police had followed that simple precept they could have avoided this insult on the public’s trust for law enforcement. Your brother
is correct, and as far as Mr. Hobb’s and Riley Fox’s father’s predicament; it is definitely sound legal advice!
reply to post by Skid Mark
Yes, this why the death penalty ought to be used as sparingly as possible. Who knows how many have went to their deaths in the penal system for
improper police procedures? The numbers are probably staggering?