Nice object lesson (and reading comprehension lesson as well)

I have to admit, as I scrolled through I wondered "how many posts until the EXIF data request?" If everyone reads the OP, my question is irrelevant. Well played sir.

Nice job piling pointed out crap onto the dung-heap of existing..

I guess? Or is that the point?

So?

Oh, Zomar, you crafty devil.

In this day and age, in the visual arts, anything can be created - that's for sure.

It's a far cry from the days when Elvis reigned supreme and people were airbrushing murals of vikings on the sides of their Chevy Vans.

I remember, back in the 70's, the excitement of finding a book or a magazine with a few UFO photos - sure, they were black and white, grainy, and often of suspicious origin; but they sure instilled a sense of wonder.

Now a person can walk into a department store and buy a life-size foam rubber representation of a 'grey' alien. UFO's and Aliens have become a staple of pop culture.

But I still dig those classic photos!

Star and Flag! A reminder that all is not what it seems! In our quest for the truth any post that helps to raise our standard can only be welcome,

Originally posted by The_Zomar
it is my opinion that MOST ufo photos are in fact false. I wanted to show how easy it is to create these photos and stories to go alongside them.

It doesn't hurt to get a reminder that UFO photos can be faked. However, I would disagree that "MOST" UFO photos are fakes and instead say "SOME" UFO photos are faked.

Plenty of UFO photos are real, but they are so often just fuzzy nondescript images, like this 1952 photo:

That's really an unidentified aerial phenomenon and not a UFO, probably a reflection.

It was entertaining to read posts about the great photos from people who obviously hadn't read the OP or replies to it pointing out the photos were faked!

or even unexpected images, like this one from the Oldfield film, it's not fake, it's a different type of reflection:

I think some popular images are fakes though.
The Air force said they think the Helfin photos are faked, and I suspect they are right:



And I suspect the McMinnville photos are faked too, though I can't really prove it.

That picture of a kid on a ladder near where it looked like an object might be hanging from the wire is enough to raise doubts of authenticity, though.

See the wires?

Yeah, that would be a great place to hang a model if it was a model they photographed.

I think people were faking UFO photos long before Photoshop or personal computers even existed.

Well, they all did look pretty fake.

I think the OP has too much time on his hands and needs a girlfriend.
Threads like this don't add anything to ATS.

Originally posted by Regenstorm
I think the OP has too much time on his hands and needs a girlfriend.
Threads like this don't add anything to ATS.

The Op did a great service to ATS. Why make personal stabs at the Op about a girlfriend? More to the point, your post adds nothing to this thread or to ATS. Feeling a bit bitter? Perhaps you were initially fooled by the images Regenstorm? It begs the question!

IRM

Another thread showing how easy it is to "trick people"



-1 for originality

(Is this where I say "Oh thank you, super smart person."? Beause I want to say, please don't waste my time.)

Also, I thought this kind of crap was against the rules?
How I miss the old days...

Awesome thread, and great work. People's reactions run the gamut don't they? Some believing the photos are real, even though you are saying right in the thread that you made them. Others indifferent, and some angry! I personally believe this thread goes right along with the ATS motto... Deny Ignorance! It's just a reminder to not believe everything you see! I think most of us can use that now and again.

Originally posted by The_Zomar
Never before seen UFO photos - Debunkers?

Debunkers? sure i'll give it a shot, i guess. But first know that i don't believe the tiltle of your thread is entirely accurate. surely someone has seen these pictures before.

Coupled with the facts presented on your personal profile, i'll reluctantly bite.

I would like to share with everyone these various photos that I have collected that were found on websites such as personal blogs and social networking sites like myspace and facebook. Up until this point these images have not been seen/released publicly as far as I am aware.

ET is thinking to himself: "silly me, i thought myspace and facebook, and similiar networking sites were places of public domain."
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UFO Among Clouds

This first photo is said to have been taken on the outskirts of Kokomo, Indiana. (Less than 2 hours from where I reside.) The disk can be seen against the clouds.
My friend captured this photo on his way to a concert he was hosting.

ET is thinking to himself: "no name, no link, no supportive evidence, just someone hiding behind an avatar who is presenting, as is, little or no credentials offered.?"
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This old photo was presumably taken in Pennsylvania. The photographer took a photo of this building and when he developed his film he found the "rod" amongst the sky. Could this be a falling star? Debris on the film? I found this particular photo on a blog where the contributor listed the above information about the image.

ET is thinking to himself: "no name, no link, no supportive evidence, just someone hiding behind an avatar who is presenting, as is, little or no credentials offered.?"

But thats not all.


All of these photos have something in common.


Each of these photos were created by me. The stories are all fake.

you don't say?

I took the time to create these images and write these stories to illustrate to the members of ATS that UFO photos are not to be trusted.

not always trusted you say? how many people whom i share more than 99.7% of the same dna with do you expect me to believe are liars?

am i to interpret you efforts and time wpent as proof that all ufo photographs are fake, all of them? how much debunking do you expect my Fellow ATSers to do? How many people are we suppose to let your mentality convince us that so many of our own kind are untrustworthy, integrity lacking, disinformation spreading liars?

are all the photos now proven to be false and made up becuase you have the technology at your fingertips to produce a few "fakes"?

A few "fakes" The Zomar can produce with such technologies supplied by those who i am either to accept are inept liars, or ... what other suggestion did you offer?

I am a firm believer in UFO's and extra terrestrials, but it is my opinion that MOST ufo photos are in fact false. I wanted to show how easy it is to create these photos and stories to go alongside them.

anybody with a laptop know pictures can be photoshopped these days, but what about the tens of thousands that were taken before people had computers in their houses? Did they photoshop their pictures by hand in their basemments, or at work on company time maybe?

people may not be as gullible as ya assume The Zomar. It is almost insulting, really.

Thank you for taking the time to read my thread. I hope some of you will be more weary when deciding if UFO images are legit or false.

what is legit, what is false, and what is truth depends upon what the individual knows of themselves, because that is the total basis for all their judgments when choosing to judge the intentions of others.

The Zomar, simply put:

not everyone is as inclined to attempt to decieve their own kind as you imply without justifiable reasons, i would think.

when discussing the first contact we missed, apparently, it doesn't matter if all but one photo is fake, then one photo is real.

more than a million eye witnesses and no resolve to the case?

if it were a court of law and more than one person testifies they saw someone kill someone, then their more than likely would be a conviction of the evidence presented.

If thousands of people produce ufo photos, there more than likely will be a thread on ATS to dismiss the reliability and integrity of the majority of people who have taken pictures of ufos as "mostly fake".

thoughts, things & stuff,
ET

[edit on 7-7-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

the first one is a job well done. the other ones are clearly hoaxes: pixelated, different lights, unclear shapes with clear background... you need study photoshop more to become a digital jedi, my friend...

if The Zomar is correct that most pictures are fake, then we should immediatly disregard all photos of ufos. Unless we have the time to prove them right or wrong.

Verify a photo by proving the person who took it was a liar makes a habit out of proving people with cameras liars for the photos they supposedly claim to have taken.

how many people should i believe are liars, or braindirtied humanzeebots performing tasks for someone elses agenda?

distrusting the majority is the same as what? What are they basing their opinions on in order to debase other peoples .... integrity.

since most of them are fake, according to The Zomar, then surely most of what is being produced is misinformation we can just disregard anyways.