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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Who is to be master and who is to be slave?
Originally posted by queenannie38
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Who is to be master and who is to be slave?
no more of either
we are waiting on the "Liberator."
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Some seem to think that man was created to serve or appease a need within God.
To do as commanded and love and adore Him. They also indicate that if we do not do so, a resentful and vengeful God punishes those who will not do so forever.
Christians tend to say, turn or burn while denying that there is a hell.
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
"The vicarious sacrifice of Jesus was refused by God. As it should have been. It was immoral.
Why have you forsaken me is answered here.
Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice."
No the sarafic wasn't denied by God. That verse Christ was going over is found in Psalms 2:21 I think.
" why hast thou forsaken me "
Christ was going over the Psalm signifying that the saints would have to go through a dark night of the soul to reach perfection.
Every saint went through the dark night of the soul.
Now as for the bible saying we are perfect.
That's not correct. it says we are all sinners and need conversion. Unless the bible blatantly contradicts itself which is not true. It's out of context.
We are here to serve but in a communial way. We have Christ literally living in us. Through communion Christ enters the soul and it rises to perfection unless we stop going.
The soul fills with grace and is removed of all its self love, pride, self importance and Christ enters in. We no longer live, but he in us.
It's a communial thing.
I have gone to communion and felt this, and it's unmistakable. The graces I can pinpoint when they enter in every time of the day when i used to go.
Some saints even reaching ecstacy.
So we serve him, he serves our soul.
peace oP.
[edit on 6-7-2010 by JesusisTruth]
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
Oh and that why hast thou forsaken me has been used by rebellious people like system of a down.
They are idiots. They don't take time to study why God said that and who gets destroyed over it?
People like the OP and millions of clueless headbangers.
the age of lies.
Sorry for the rant OP.
[edit on 6-7-2010 by JesusisTruth]
Originally posted by queenannie38
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Who is to be master and who is to be slave?
no more of either
we are waiting on the "Liberator."
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
" a good tree cannot bear good fruit "
Its out of context. We he means in that verse is on the individual soul itself.
It was in context that you judge each man according to his works and fruit. If you were right evil wouldn't exist but it does.
But it's not bad fruit on Gods part. It's lack of God in that soul. We are like souless burnt coals wthout Gods grace in us.
Originally posted by No King but Jesus
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.-1Tim2
His body was like chrysolite, his face like lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude.-Dan10.6
Originally posted by JesusisTruth
Yes God created everything, but his grace is only in certain souls.
peace.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Some seem to think that man was created to serve or appease a need within God.
To do as commanded and love and adore Him. They also indicate that if we do not do so, a resentful and vengeful God punishes those who will not do so forever.
Christians tend to say, turn or burn while denying that there is a hell.
If a "Christian" denies there is a Hell, chances are they are not a follower of Jesus Christ, but a wolf in sheep's clothing. No other figure in the Bible spoke/taught/warned about Hell more than Jesus Christ Himself. To deny Hell is to say/think Jesus was a liar.