Breech of Conract lawsuit vs Obama Candidate, page 1

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Topic started on 5-7-2010 @ 11:11 PM by awakentired

I know that the office of President can not be sued, but can the candidate for the office be sued for breech of contract with his voters?

His campaign literature in evidence along with his first year in presidency should be enough to sue the man Obama.
Is there a precedent ..even during the growth phase of this country in the backwoods of western US ?

This may be a way to pull in the reigns on both candidates and office holders.

I know impeachment is the formal process to remove a sitting President, but this method is only for use of the Congress. US Citizens are positioned above elected officials. There must be a backdoor to regain control legally.

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:14 PM by Blueracer

Sue him? No. Vote in someone else for president in '12.

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:20 PM by awakentired

reply to post by Blueracer

Sorry for my skepticism. The same will happen. I have watched it for years and this election far exceeded every President's blatant lies to gain office.
The person that becomes a candidate must be held accountable to the "people" that vote for them. Not the special interests groups that give them the money to win and then want payback that invariably causes them to go against their election platform.

Please. Any legal minds out there that know case precedence?

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:24 PM by boondock-saint

Originally posted by awakentired
I know impeachment is the formal process to remove a sitting President, but this method is only for use of the Congress. US Citizens are positioned above elected officials. There must be a backdoor to regain control legally.

I think there is a mentally unstable clause
somewhere, maybe I'm wrong.

But I know for a fact that the States could
secede from the US and his powers as prez
would be null and void. But good luck trying
to get your state lawmakers to go along.

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:25 PM by Rynocerous7

reply to post by Blueracer

That's two years away, imagine how much more damage he can do in that time. If we as a nation were smarter (and we're not) we would have tried to pressure Congress to impeach Bush, but now the Executive knows he (or his masters) can pretty much do whatever they want.

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:32 PM by amicae

Originally posted by Blueracer
Sue him? No. Vote in someone else for president in '12.

I can't wait until 2012 gets here!

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:36 PM by guohua

reply to post by awakentired

Have you got your card yet?

It was a lie to, but at least you can throw it in the faces of all those Obamanites that'll vote for him again like they did before. this look familiar?

You remember them don't you

Breech of Conract lawsuit is only the half of it, how about Treason?
No, 2012 can not get here soon enough.

EDIT to add S & F for you my friend.

[edit on 5-7-2010 by guohua]

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:49 PM by awakentired

reply to post by boondock-saint

As most of you know this Federal and State government is topsy turvy. The state takes orders from the fed. Why? Due to funding from the Feds the States buckle and betray its citizens.

When studying the constitution in HS I envisioned an upside down pyramid building. The bottom is the Federal government..capstone if you will.
The middle is the mix of states and the vast base is the citizens of the states of all the Union.
If any branch of the Fed Fails, Court: Legislative: Executive, the states drop on them with the weight of the citizens and the Union recovers.
If the rot proceeds up from the State, the citizens again by the weight of numbers alone falls on them.

This made sense to me then and now. Unfortunately, the reality has been corrupted to the point that the Federal Government behaves as if it OWNS the citizens and can order States.

Lol. I had to pass the government test to pass high school way back then.

Wish our senators and congressmen had the same High School requirement.

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:51 PM by awakentired

reply to post by guohua

Had to flag you for that. Btw copied hua image. luv it. Explains so much about politics seeking a rosy patch of ground.

reply posted on 5-7-2010 @ 11:56 PM by Wyn Hawks

Originally posted by awakentired
His campaign literature in evidence along with his first year in presidency should be enough to sue the man Obama.

...campaign literature = evidence of what?... of how gullible you are for believing that campaign literature = truth?...

...the prez has no power... the prez is a puppet... cant sue a puppet for being a puppet...

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 12:10 AM by awakentired

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Thank you for your informative post Wyn. Did you have something meaningful to add to this post? Or is it some kind of hobby to jump in and try to derail a post?

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 12:24 AM by awakentired

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks

Originally posted by awakentired
His campaign literature in evidence along with his first year in presidency should be enough to sue the man Obama.

...campaign literature = evidence of what?... of how gullible you are for believing that campaign literature = truth?...

...the prez has no power... the prez is a puppet... cant sue a puppet for being a puppet...

I don't know what country you are from. Here in the USA if you advertise, Campaign literature, then it must be considered true. If it is untruthful then you will be sued and be subject to fines and penalties.
And boy when you decide to make your thoughts known to others versus ad libbing on others thoughts then you can speak to me again.

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 12:47 AM by rebeldog

the "BACKDOOR" as you are looking for works like this. or so our founders did and left instructions for us to do again someday.

step 1: 2nd amendment--
step 2: crash through the front door of politician's house with half the town
step 3: drag corrupt slithering creature out the "backdoor" to be hung..

anyone who denies this is what our founders directed, are either a troll or too cowardly to admit to.

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 01:10 AM by eazyriderl_l

there you go , vote him out. thats the answer right. then the next guy comes ands says something and gets elected then turns his back on the people as well. If voting is your answer, then enjoy your chosen tyrant

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 01:37 AM by ZombieOctopus

I was going to ask if this was the first time you were old enough to vote, but looking at your profile, you've gone through 8 elections and you were really expecting everything he laid out during the campaign to happen? Has that ever happened in the entire history of democracy, anywhere in the world? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. lol

When I vote, I take everything they promise, divide it in half and assume it'll take twice as long to complete. At best. A politician is a politician, that's just how the game is played. Corporate masters dole out cash to get a man/woman in office, have them say whatever it takes, and then once they're in they spend their time repaying the favour. Obama has a lot of favours to repay and the voters are at the ass end of the list.

As Albert Einstein once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 02:26 AM by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by ZombieOctopus
I was going to ask if this was the first time you were old enough to vote, but looking at your profile, you've gone through 8 elections and you were really expecting everything he laid out during the campaign to happen? Has that ever happened in the entire history of democracy, anywhere in the world?

Im sure the OP is well aware of this fact. It's just this specific president that gets under his skin apparently. Obama broke many of his promises, he isnt the first and will not be the last. I can almost assure you that the next president will do the same. As for whether it is acceptable? No it is not, but then again the campaign trail has always been something of a drunk mouth event. I supported Obama during the 2008 elections but in no way was I that naive to think he'd keep all his promises. I have no doubt there were some voters naive enough to think so, but then again its always a number of supporters with every president. the same could be said for all the other candidates.

I know many Paulers would jump up and say 'NOT RON PAUL!', but I beg to differ.

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 02:32 AM by awakentired

Originally posted by ZombieOctopus
I was going to ask if this was the first time you were old enough to vote, but looking at your profile, you've gone through 8 elections and you were really expecting everything he laid out during the campaign to happen? Has that ever happened in the entire history of democracy, anywhere in the world? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. lol

When I vote, I take everything they promise, divide it in half and assume it'll take twice as long to complete. At best. A politician is a politician, that's just how the game is played. Corporate masters dole out cash to get a man/woman in office, have them say whatever it takes, and then once they're in they spend their time repaying the favour. Obama has a lot of favours to repay and the voters are at the ass end of the list.

As Albert Einstein once said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

LoL Last election I was very vocal among my colleagues and said that the PTB are now braven in their choices that they give us . A black man that has no leadership experience whatsoever and an old man that has done nothing more in his lifetime than take advantage of being in a war and trying to make the most of it.
I made no mention of the powers of their corporate supporters.
Sir i would welcome you to a breakfast for a mind meeting. I am no fool. I am no kid . yes I have killed. I know the taste of blood in my mouth and the smell of bodies burning.

I do not want to have that taste and smell in my country. However, if it were to happen I would hope and pray that it would be the bankers and their minions that flesh fry

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 02:38 AM by awakentired

reply to post by Southern Guardian

Sir. I am saying that enough is enough. Yes there has been candidate fraud that has gone on for decades. We can trace it. Does that become Judaical precedence? I think not.

I am saying that now WE decide that the time has come for the Judicial branch to decide whether candidates' promises are or can be construed as contracts. That is the "legal" question... No historica matter is of importance in this thread unless it shows that. Yes, indeed, there is precedence that a voted in servant has been sued for his misdeeds to the voters.

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 08:54 AM by whatukno

reply to post by awakentired

Unfortunately you would have to prove that you voted for him, (or any president for that matter) then you would have to prove that he entered into a contract with you. Do you have a copy of that contract with your name and Obama's name?

If not, well, 2012, then cast your vote for someone else, you still won't be voting for them because you vote for electors, but that's a different issue.

You could wait till he is out of office then sue him for whatever, you will get laughed out of court, but at lest you won't be as bad as the Birthers.

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 10:30 PM by awakentired

reply to post by whatukno

If I'm not mistaken, he has / had a website that lists his promises. brochures certainly did. And transcripts of his teleprompter we all know he's a fan of those!

Just need .."when I become President I will"

sounds like a verbal contract to me and backed up by written evidence of the speech/contract.

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