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posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:20 AM
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reply to post by MolecularPhD
 


Nice one. How utterly arrogant of you to say that you know absolutely that every single ufo sighting ever, is of Earthly origin. I suppose you know absolutely that we are the only planet in the universe with advanced forms of life on it?




posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by Nivcharah
reply to post by GeminiSky
 


GeminiSky,

I kindly refer you to heed the caution of your signature:

"***DONT FEED THE TROLLS***"




Really? Thats all you can contribute? Is giving the benefit of the doubt to EVERYONE considered feeding the trolls? Not in my book....



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by jitombe

Originally posted by JoshuaThomas
I can't deny that some of the technology observed is our own, but I know for a fact that 90% of it isn't ours'. Your typo leads me to believe you're full of it, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I've worked in aerospace testing for 5 years. It took me 2 years to get a security clearance to test and work with customers who are well "in the know." I do work for lockheed, boeing, ratheon, us air force, army, etc. I don't know a whole lot about this subject, but I do know for a complete fact that companies on this planet are actually working with races from other planets. It might sound ridiculous, but it is a reality that I hope gets exposed. My wife doesn't even like hearing the stories I've been told, because they're just too much to wrap your brain around. I come to this website because I just can't relate to anybody else in my social circle.


I'm not certain what to make of it but I would like more info related to the above. I don't think it's ridiculous and it is related to the thread. More details would be nice.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by MolecularPhD
During this round table meeting, the then young Marvel Whiteside Parsons; the founder of JPL made the mention of the Oct. 30, 1938 airing of “War of the Worlds” by his then friend Orson Welles; and the effects that it had on the mass populace listening to the broadcast. Parsons put forth the plan to use these events to cover up their work on secret propulsion systems; and their work in anti-gravity technologies.

It was also decided at that time they would need to build three separate base facilities outside of normal government channels; to add in their ability in keeping these advanced technologies a secret from the public, and out of government control. All three facility locations were chosen for their energetic properties, ease of concealment, and their proximity to large water supplies.


A few things...

You will have to excuse me for finding something amiss here. If you've researched Parsons, why are you referring to him as "Marvel Whiteside Parsons"? I know perfectly well that was his given name at birth, but I've never seen it used before (even in O.T.O. archival he's never been called anything but Jack Parsons, or John Whiteside Parsons (which is the name he also wrote under)... You will have to understand my incredulity and skepticism regarding this reference, as I find someone who was familiar with his work would not make this error. Sorry, but it just seems a little odd to me and I'm wondering why...

I find your foray into a relationship between Welles and Parsons without much merit. There isn't any evidence afaik that the two of them had ever even met, not for Babalon Workings (Liber 49), and not for reference of War of the Worlds, or Freedom is a Two Edged Sword... (although Parsons was a known Sci-Fi buff). There were a lot of interesting individuals in his life of great celebrity; and most of this is known... but I can not find a single reference to Welles there. Would you care to share your sources on this? I know a lot of people in the Thelemic community and within the Typhonian Current that would definitely be interested in seeing what evidence you have in this regard.

Finally, I know of no reference that says that Jack worked on anything other than straightforward rocket propulsion (and he was a definite pioneer in that field). Would you please be so kind as to cite these "anti-gravity" sources?

By sources, I of course am referring to credible sources; for the purposes of journalistic integrity, I'll ask you not to include wing nut internet I-just-pulled-this-nonsense-out-of-my-bum sources. Thanks in advance.

To be continued...

93



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by wake up world
reply to post by MolecularPhD
 


Nice one. How utterly arrogant of you to say that you know absolutely that every single ufo sighting ever, is of Earthly origin. I suppose you know absolutely that we are the only planet in the universe with advanced forms of life on it?




Hey OP,

Do you my Uncle Bob Lazar??

Or are you HIM???
Remember Mandeville??
Laura says HI!

73's,
Tom



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by MolecularPhD
reply to post by HeinousOne
 


On the contrary, only the other sources you speak of is still us; just on a different resonance level.

Respectfully

MolecularPHD


in my opinion the OP has some knowledge on this subject that speaks volumes the liquid toridal vortex has been proven to show some very strange effects

a liquid magnet recirculated in a vortex self reinforces a toroidal magnetic feild that causes a gravatational feild to build around the centre this self induced grav feild can be polerized against the grav feild of the earth

the ancient indian verdic texts speak of super heated mercury related sustances that are recirculated to provide lift

one thing most people dont comprehend is that even a soild donut magnet toriod spin about an axis will show signs of weight loss

i propose a planetary gearset electromagnetic device to initiate momentum into the fero fluid to provide energy efficientcy and rolling magnetic feilds to speed up the magnetic liquid to a point where it statrs to act like a gyroscope transmitting the sustained momemtum accross the toridal shape from horisontal to vertical plane this is why the antigravity effect occours

transformation from electrmagnetic to electro gravitation occours because of the high speed of the fluid moving in three dimentions inside the toriodal (donut) shaped housing

very similar magnetic lines of force and donut feild surround the earth

XPLodER



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:28 AM
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Interesting post. As I dont understand a lick about the science, I suppose its fair for a critic to say look at the simple spelling mistake, and that in itself would discredit the entire claim. What your saying is that we are just that far advanced that every ufo or anything of that nature is ours. Im new into this subject, about a month ive really been reading alot. There just seems to be so many things that wouldnt be able to be explained by this, what would your take be on all the items littering the moon / mars? Are these our's as well. And while the nazi's were ahead of they're time obviously, ur stating we went from V2 rockets (while advanced for they're time) are nothing near space travel ect.. So again, I dunno. But interesting.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:28 AM
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So, to the OP, you jump on randomly here to comment on members questions to your statement, yet are leaving us waiting for more info? That will gain you one result my friend, You're full of #. If not, bring it. This site isn't child's play.......at least not to me.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by tomdham

Originally posted by wake up world
reply to post by MolecularPhD
 


Nice one. How utterly arrogant of you to say that you know absolutely that every single ufo sighting ever, is of Earthly origin. I suppose you know absolutely that we are the only planet in the universe with advanced forms of life on it?




Hey OP,

Do you my Uncle Bob Lazar??

Or are you HIM???
Remember Mandeville??
Laura says HI!

73's,
Tom


Hey mate, if I could understand your post, I may be able to answer it.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:34 AM
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Wow. So the "UFO's" flying around in the NASA "tether incident" video were either ours or just animation perhaps? Big bummer.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by MolecularPhD
reply to post by HeinousOne
 


On the contrary, only the other sources you speak of is still us; just on a different resonance level.

Respectfully

MolecularPHD


in my opinion the OP has some knowledge on this subject that speaks volumes the liquid toridal vortex has been proven to show some very strange effects

a liquid magnet recirculated in a vortex self reinforces a toroidal magnetic feild that causes a gravatational feild to build around the centre this self induced grav feild can be polerized against the grav feild of the earth

the ancient indian verdic texts speak of super heated mercury related sustances that are recirculated to provide lift

one thing most people dont comprehend is that even a soild donut magnet toriod spin about an axis will show signs of weight loss

i propose a planetary gearset electromagnetic device to initiate momentum into the fero fluid to provide energy efficientcy and rolling magnetic feilds to speed up the magnetic liquid to a point where it statrs to act like a gyroscope transmitting the sustained momemtum accross the toridal shape from horisontal to vertical plane this is why the antigravity effect occours

transformation from electrmagnetic to electro gravitation occours because of the high speed of the fluid moving in three dimentions inside the toriodal (donut) shaped housing

very similar magnetic lines of force and donut feild surround the earth

XPLodER



Hey OP, (I mean Uncle Bob)

I FOUND IT!!! I FOUND IT!!!!

www.youtube.com...

Good video...is this really how it works??

Please continue your enlightened, but lengthy, thread!!

I needed a good laugh today.

73's,
Tom



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by MolecularPhD
reply to post by HeinousOne
 


On the contrary, only the other sources you speak of is still us; just on a different resonance level.

Respectfully

MolecularPHD


in my opinion the OP has some knowledge on this subject that speaks volumes the liquid toridal vortex has been proven to show some very strange effects

a liquid magnet recirculated in a vortex self reinforces a toroidal magnetic feild that causes a gravatational feild to build around the centre this self induced grav feild can be polerized against the grav feild of the earth

the ancient indian verdic texts speak of super heated mercury related sustances that are recirculated to provide lift

one thing most people dont comprehend is that even a soild donut magnet toriod spin about an axis will show signs of weight loss

i propose a planetary gearset electromagnetic device to initiate momentum into the fero fluid to provide energy efficientcy and rolling magnetic feilds to speed up the magnetic liquid to a point where it statrs to act like a gyroscope transmitting the sustained momemtum accross the toridal shape from horisontal to vertical plane this is why the antigravity effect occours

transformation from electrmagnetic to electro gravitation occours because of the high speed of the fluid moving in three dimentions inside the toriodal (donut) shaped housing

very similar magnetic lines of force and donut feild surround the earth

XPLodER


I want to read the same websites you do.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:35 AM
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I'll admit I don't have a good understanding of the field propulsions mentioned, but I think I have a better grasp of the concepts for the power source. It seems to me that the power source described would be somewhat under-powered and prohibitively expensive. I recently looked at what I would need to convert my home to total solar power, and it's a lot. Even if the silicon lattice sheet are 90% efficient at absorbing the beta radiation, it would still take quite a lot to give you the electrical power needed to generate fields strong enough to push around something the mass of a modern fighter jet, for instance. And tritium gas isn't that easy to make. It just seems to me that more powerful, compact, and cheaper power source could be used. Just my two cents.

Also, am I just old school or what? Who calls heavy water dueterium oxide?



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:36 AM
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I'm not sure what I just did, but I'm obviously not used to this. What would you like to know? I don't want to expose too much about myself, but I'm more than willing to share anything that doesn't require me to identify my exact identity or work location. I don't have much, other than what I've been told from foreign technology and research and development representatives. From everything I've been told, which I have no reason to disbelieve, I just keep coming up with more questions, myself. I can't question too much with my customers, which is why I feel the need to come here, to begin with. My wife doesn't even want to hear a word about it, which is causing major strain in our life. This subject makes me question my entire life and everything I've ever been taught. For the op to state that this technology is all ours', I feel completely offended. This subject has caused way too much strain on my personal relationships for me to just sit and read about some person crediting this technology to human development.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by MolecularPhD
reply to post by cripmeister
 


Crip I hope you do realize that was a joke, while replying to another ATS members post; which was to say the least scientifically ridiculous thing I had ever read.

Respectfully

MolecularPHD


im interested in the science

that you for you thought provoction post op

some questions for you

is the fero magnetic feild cooled or heated

is there large feild windings to propergate the flow inside the sealed toriodal container

is this a closed loop process

does the iner diameter of the torroid allow the fluid to travel faster than the outer diamerter

does the gyroscopic spinning of the liquid create a situation where the craft self stabilizes or is there a mecanisim to stop it flipping over

the triangle shape is the most sturdy in veiw of weight and gravity are there fluid drive magnets arranged 120 degress apart as a stabilising/sycronising type system?

XPLOdER



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by vance
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Glad to have helped. Only ones make a misspell like that are people who don't realize what they talk of. Defend him if you will. While you are at his defense, do you think he might've worked for the "US Marine Core" as well "Genius"?


I would just like to say I was INCREDIBLY doubting Mole's identity but JohnnyAnon did publicly announce to all chat that Mole's credentials were definitely confirmed.

I may disagree with him on certain things, but as far as he being who he says he is, regardless of what claims he is making, is true.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by GeminiSky
Really? Thats all you can contribute? Is giving the benefit of the doubt to EVERYONE considered feeding the trolls? Not in my book....


If you look at my previous posts, I've contributed more than that.

My benefit of the doubt ceased when the O.P. started posting responses without posting the entire information for the Original Post, yet had the time to post his entire resume. The purpose of that is to have people who have lesser critical thinking skills (sheeple) give credibility to someone who probably has no credibility and is "Making $h!t Up" - as Wayne Brady would say.

Go ahead. Give people the benefit of the doubt! If we turn our noses up at everything right away, we risk the possibility of not learning something new. Just be cautious of the hook lying within the bait. Someone who drags posting the entire information for the O.P. has an agenda. It's a lure. And before you know it, you've been sucked into the net - hook, line & sinker.

This is my final time stating this: The O.P. should have typed or dictated the entire contents first. Spelled Checked. Posted. This is logical and methodical.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:39 AM
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Sorry, I meant this for the Dr. OP.

I meant: "Do you KNOW my Uncle Bob Lazar"

Won't happen again.

73's,
Tom



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by killuminati2012


I had to give you a star for being a man about it.

Back to the OP though. I'll assume that the credentials given are legit. However, I feel like the OP is trying to boast while claiming to know far-reaching matters based on a small piece of the puzzle. This is merely my opinion and I could very well be wrong. Unfortunately, that's the price you pay when trying to gauge an individual through a computer screen. However, the screen name "MolecularPhD" reminds me of some guy driving a fancy sports car with the vanity license plate "IMRICH"

[edit on 5-7-2010 by killuminati2012]


This isn't the case. We have been pressing him in ATS chat for a solid 3 weeks now to make SOME sort of thread on ANYTHING he is or has been working on. I was pretty surprised to find he had made a thread at all.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by vance
the non existent entity you called "US Army Core of Engineers", Vance


I cant see where he spelt core instead of corps... maybe he edited for you. Regardless of his academic record he is obviously American... Americans spell everything wrong... mum, specilise etc

His story however is nothing new. Its even on wikipedia for godsake.





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