Here you go.




Looks like that, too, was lifted off the net!

Originally posted by PsychoX42
I want to also note that if what the OP is saying is true...

He wouldn't be alive to tell anything more. You see, the State Department is really nasty to people when they leak "classified" information.

Certainly. He would be in a lot of trouble for violating secrecy laws and his NDA. Why would he decide to speak now and risk the trouble?

star and flag, anytime dr.kammler and victor shauberger get a mention in ats, i believe they are at the heart of the ufo phenomenom.

Originally posted by hans kammler
star and flag, anytime dr.kammler and victor shauberger get a mention in ats, i believe they are at the heart of the ufo phenomenom.

Here, here.

Behind Tesla, Schauberger is most deserving of my interests.

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by PsychoX42
2. he misspelled U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. He actually spelled it "Core of Engineers" before he changed it to the correct spelling. This is not a mistake that an engineer from the Army would make.

There are some questions I have about his service in the Corps. Is there such a position as "Science Officer"? Popular perception is that the Corps is involved with construction projects, not back-engineering foreign technology; does anyone know if the Corps would be involved in such, and provide evidence of this?

Originally posted by PsychoX42
So, don't read too much into what the OP says. So far, it smells like B.S.

Red-flags for me were incidents of special pleading, appeal-to-authority and misleading vividness in his original post.

Agreed Doomsday.

But, these were the things that red flagged me...

1. He failed to provide any math to back his statements. Surely a PHD would provide such evidence.
2. It was proven that his M.I.T. Diploma was photoshopped, and there were huge misspellings on his diploma.
3. He didn't go into detail about "Operation Paperclip," which should have been the first measure on the docket considering he opted to talk about Germany and their involvement with UFO's.
4. Again, He misspelled "Corps" and actually typed "Core"

There were a few other things that made me question his position, however, Johnny Anonymous claims that he is going to get to the bottom of this, so, I will patiently wait and see what he has to say.

Personally, I believe that the OP is full of garbage. But, I will let the Mods figure it out.

Talk with ya soon Doomsday!!!

Namaste and Love


[edit on 6-7-2010 by PsychoX42]

OK this is doing my head in.

I can't find anything on Jonathan Knudsen.

More about Fred McConahay, who isn't MolecularPHD or is he?

WTF?????

Come on Mole you must've finished getting the groceries by now.

Shall be monitoring chat.

I must worn you i have my finger on the red button, the one marked do not press. Only joking(sort of)



See the viral doubt has spread to me now.

The really huge problem i have with all this Nazis/Human UFOs is to a large degree this.

1. They have to be American. Why? Why not some top secret European project or Russian project or Chinese project? Nothing against the USA but when it comes to high tech, well sorry, but you have never actually been the leading country in virtually any field have you? You've only just caught on how good TV can look after 50 years of utter garbage, picture wise. The best rockets are built in Russia using a design 40 years old the USA didn't spot. The telecommunications world is dominated by the Brits and a couple of European partners. Robotics, the Japanese are years ahead of the USA. The list goes on and on. Yet, the moment it comes to man made UFO's, no-one even considers that it might not be the USA, at all. It could be the USa, but there is no rule that says, it has to be.

2. Military ramifications. let me get this right. The USA has watched almost half a million of it's service people die in battle whilst being able to blast any opponent into oblivion with virtual impunity? Are you really telling us that. The USA moved nuclear weapons to Okinawa during rte Korean conflict when they had these saucers that could have blasted the North Koreans and Chinese back to the stone age?


Not only that, but the USA then spent billions and billions of dollars on wholly pointless ICBM projects, outdated aircraft, ships etc etc, when all the time half a dozen of these craft could render the entire Warsaw pact missile threat redundant? Yet you are trying to tell us that, that self same military built these craft but never once sued them to actually perform military tasks?

3. That the huge financial benefits of these technology have just been ignored in the USA, home of the, screw the environment give us the cash economics for the last 80-90 years? Let's just take the inertia damping that must be used. Right so over the 6 and a half decades since the end of World War 2, how many people have died and how many countless billions of dollars have been wasted on insurance pay outs, hospital fees, etc etc for accidents that need never have happened?

In short, you have a couple of choices here. if we are making these craft it is the biggest conspiracy ever and would involve such a fiscal fall out as to guarantee anyone breaking ranks would be killed immediately. Yet, you want us to believe that you wander onto ATS and announce it like it's not actually that big a thing?

I think, you are trying to sell this to some channel on TV as a documentary and you are down here, gauging the reaction and trying to bring on board a few supporters so you can tell the channel you have some sort of backing behind you..

You want me to believe anything you say about the subject it is simple.

1 Publish the name of the first UFO pilot, their rank, their flight history and their full service record.

2 Tell us the real name of Mr Janus, as he was obviously employed by your people as a disinformation agent.

3 The names of the crew from the Valensole incident.

4 The purpose and who gave permission rank etc etc for Rendlesham.

5. The purpose of Shag harbour .


That shouldn't be hard should it? If you really are telling the truth?

Great intro.

Needs some work on style.

Warn me when the book comes out, or when Your first scientific article in Scientific American is published...

Oh, and "Die" is not needed when already using "the"

[edit on 7/6/2010 by diakrite]

Then again, some will say those photo's have been hoaxed. This is getting us no where guys.

What skeptics need is for something to land on the white house lawn. Out comes Aliens bearing cookbooks.

What UFO'ers need is for the government to open up all the books. Out comes tons of documentation that supports the OP.

Even then, both sides will claim it's all a hoax or guvment conspiracy to debunk.