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[HOAX] UFO Truth Revealed [HOAX]

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posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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Hello,

Johnny I must be slipping but I did think if you started a thread it was your duty to that thread to be there to answer questions or one should not start the thread until able to do so.

11 pages is long enough and we are all busy in one way or another.

With that said.... I would like to say I believe the title to the thread is """wrong""", "UFO Truth Revealed" because he is wrong and I don't care if this person has paper work and a PHD infront... on top... or behind his name and I am not meaning to be rude about this even if it sounds harsh.

He may have truths to projects he worked on and how many things were done but I believe we are truly dealing with two different things here.

One being...... what he is talking about and our technologies
second thing......the real truth

All that he speaks of I have no doubt is true BUT it is not UFO Truth Revealed however.

The human race may have developed technologies which have been spotted and thought of as UFO's..... and yes they use this to their advantage to hold control over others.

The problem I see here is they have taken these technologies claimed them as their own and use them in a greedy way such as bad not good.

UFO's and Aliens are real and many millions of people know this. Even with what our Scientist and military work on such as being able to use control through frequencies and sounds it came from higher intelligence and I can't say not of this Earth because many species are just as much if not more Terrestrial as you BUT they have abilities to be what we call Extraterrestrials.

When it is time and I hate to use the word time because it is humans who use time to all others time has no meaning.

I observe and what is on the net with about UFO's and Aliens is correct and it's right out in the open and I will leave it at.

Which came first the CHICKEN..............or.......................................!




posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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I am curious to know what it is that you mean by "DMU’s or Dimensional Units" (in reference to the crafts outer casing). If you could provide a brief explanation, I have my guess but not sure I'm on the same page as you. Also, It's obliviously been awhile so how far exactly has this technology progressed and where has it taken us?



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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I'm not clear how Viktor went from Repulsine technology which is more or less classical physics, to the Nazi Bell which is solid state. As I recall from The Hunt For Zero Point, the Nazi Bell had some bad side effects.

Also I want to know if any of the craft you are speaking of involve quantum phase shifting and inertial mass reduction.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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I knew i recognised the OP from somewhere and then it came to me. it is the spirirt of the late greeat great Professor Stanley Unwin.




posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Certainly, tales of secret-developed craft, hidden Nazi work, etc. are interesting, and I know of a little bit of solid proof along that line myself.

That said, cloaking such discussions in high-level scientific terms is one of the techniques of stunning the peons into acceptance of such tales without a serious shred of proof. We shall see.

Diggers here on ATS will either come up with much supporting data because he has opened THE can of worms, or nothing much will result which will be indicative in itself.

About a month ago, I ventured for the first time into the ABS chat area for about an hour to see what was there. Eight or nine folks were there. Nothing much was happening except our OP here, under the name of "Mole" on the chat list, was trying to explain to another menber the origins of UFOs.

He seemed a very intelligent fellow, but he evidently had read Stichin's works and assumed for some reason that we hadn't. When I directly asked him if he was throwing Stichin at us--which he obviously was, he did not respond. As he started a lengthly explanation of early ETs coming to Earth to enslave the early himans in search of a precious metal (gold, I believe it was), I logged off, needing no remedial lessons.

So If I seem to doubt his very complex story, you now know why. I hope he continues with his account by supplying some hard data.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:30 AM
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Great Post! I always love these threads. As longs as you are prepared for a backlash of alien comments. One thing I have noticed that goes well with this topic is the study and history of humanity, otherwise known as Anthropology. In my opinion, if you have studied our history you can easily conclude that "Aliens" were involved.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by MolecularPhD

Outer-Core Structure
The outer-core is comprised of a strontium phosphate glass insulator with a vacuum space in between the inner-core and outer-core; depending on the application of the core this can vary in thickness; the propulsion cores insulator is several inches thick; with maximum vacuum gap in between. This outer shell is impregnated with (NMR) Nuclear Magnetic Lasers; which are utilized as the tuning forks for the inner core. The intensity level (resonance) of the NMR regulates not only the amount of kinetic and magnetic energy released but, depending on which NMR’s are fired in specific sequences gives you direction as well.


These statements concerning Magnetic Resonance show either deception by using catchy words, a lack of knowledge, or knowledge of new physics. The OP refers to the acronym NMR (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance) but discusses Magnetic Resonance Lasers. I cannot reconcile these statements with my experience as a Ph.D. condensed matter physicist studying nuclear magnetic resonance phenomena. Are these lasers that operate using some NMR phenomena? (not likely if you understand how lasers work) Or are they lasers that drive a nuclear magnetic resonance in one of the many substances the OP refers to? A laser alone would seem to be insufficient for driving a nuclear magnetic resonance. Large magnetic fields are needed to align nuclear or electronic spins whilst a transverse alternating EM field drives a resonant spin precession. The applied EM fields are often in the radio or microwave frequency range for the many forms of NMR. Visible and near-visible light used as the transverse EM perturbation would likely require either tremendous magnetic fields or nuclei with gargantuan gyromagnetic ratios. Lasers can indeed be used in NMR experiments, however, they are often used for electronic excitation not to drive a spin resonance. From the OP's vague description, I cannot believe that a laser alone can be used to drive some magnetic resonance that then releases said energy in an anisotropic fashion for controlled propulsion.

Can the OP (or anyone else for that matter) explain these claims about "Nuclear Magnetic Lasers" to a physicist or are they just catch words used to gain credence from non-NMR folk?



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:39 AM
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He seemed a very intelligent fellow, but he evidently had read Stichin's works and assumed for some reason that we hadn't. When I directly asked him if he was throwing Stichin at us--which he obviously was, he did not respond. As he started a lengthly explanation of early ETs coming to Earth to enslave the early himans in search of a precious metal (gold, I believe it was), I logged off, needing no remedial lessons.


Thanks for the transcript!

Agreed ! I nor many others around ATS need Zack's remedial lessons.
That is very telling of his beliefs.

I will say to the OP:
Don't be mistaken. There are several ATS members that will understand the technology.
Including the ability to do the math.

Bring it Bunky!


Edit to add: Yes, it was gold

[edit on 6-7-2010 by Zeptepi]



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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Oh god these type of threads, Sorry...

Ok so hands up who's never heard of the bell project before this post?

It was only a matter of time before someone would jump onto this program and claim to have been part of it really, absolutely anybody could have done there research on this and made the same claim you have, need more evidence than just a cool story here im afraid... So i look forward to seeing & hearing it soon!

Infact if you have done your homework before reading this story, you will find out that this program was based upon the NAZI fascinations and studies into the UFO phenomenon in the early 1900s WAY before the NAZI's did wot the US Government and others are flying today in secret today, its all based on UFO/ET craft tho this is where the OP is wrong, thay have been visiting before we had invented the wheel or built the pyramids,

He went on to say how he thought these craft was flying and try'ed to set about duplicate the technology under the Nazi's supervision, he thought they was flying buy means of antigravity propulsion as most looked as if the was levitating on energy fields, thus the Nazis trying to electro magnetically charge them in the FLY-TRAP

Pic here


Early 1900s UFO before the bell project.

Pic here


If you believe this is where the UFO phenomenon was born (and all UFOs are of Human origins) you are missing vast chunks of your UFO history just Google late 1800s & early 1900s UFO Pics the NAZI amassed quite a few to study before hand, and lets not forget all the accient artifacts & paintings of further evidence of visitation going much much further back

The project was taken to the US after WWII along with many other V standing for Vengeance weapons technologys to start Development of his work and others, needless to say, he was sent home back to Austria and had all his work stolen once revealed, without a penny he died a lonely old man back in his home town, so god knows wot the USAF are doing with it now some 60yrs later probably making outposts on the Moon & Mars

Yes i believe we do have this technology up and running today and it has been kept secret for many years because you cannot put a meter on free energy / Zero Point energy, And they probably won't publicly release or disclose such technology until the Oils ALL gone around 2025.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by MolecularPhD
All I can say is, “Find a Physicist” any decent physicist will understand the principles being used and the process that are being used.



Now see that is why you don't understand! you are obviously not a decent enough physicist! I suggest you hang your head in shame.

Or maybe science was just different when they were building the secret UFO's...

CTH



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 09:55 AM
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Can the OP (or anyone else for that matter) explain these claims about "Nuclear Magnetic Lasers" to a physicist or are they just catch words used to gain credence from non-NMR folk?


Good on you Muonide!
Nope! I can't either. But as I said, I really hope that the OP brings the poop.(math and such)
I think he believes we are all beneath his level of expertise....ie:


Because, I realize many of you members will not understand the technology or the science I just described above, you may dismiss this all together or simply claim that this is made up science fiction. All I can say is, “Find a Physicist” any decent physicist will understand the principles being used and the process that are being used.




You were typing that as I was responding to the previous poster. Good one!

Good luck Johnny A!



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by MolecularPhD
Dear: ATS Members

As I have had many fellow ATS members ask me to write a post on this subject, before I begin, I must write a disclaimer for the thread that I am about to write. I would also like to add that this will be a very long thread, that will take an effort on your part to do your own follow up research, thank you; and I hope you enjoy the information.



Do NOT! and I repeat, do NOT! State on ANY topic 'TRUTH'. This is not the TRUTH and FAR from it!

You need to change that title quick!

I am aware, like everyone else here with common sense, knows that we have great technologies. We know this! We know that not all we see is of other 'worldly' origins but you CANNOT say, that we have only seen our OWN technologies brought to our attention. It's a mixture of our own technologies and 'other worldly' technologies.

So do not write topics like this, making out everything is of earthly nature, it's not and can't be.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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There are indeed members with background in Math and Physics; I am one of them. And I smell BS big time here... Fermionic field.... Right. It is a mathematical apparatus to describe the particle behavior, not a "real" field. It takes more than some salts, precious metal (iridium) and heavy water (deuterium oxide) to make a UFO fly :-)



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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OP I know you would only be able to take this with a grain of salt because you don't know me and I don't know you.... but I know for FACT that we are not the only ones here... unless humans have developed a way to become multi dimensional but I highly doubt that, not with our technology.

2nd Please don't take this personal but it appears all of that info you posted seemed like copied and pasted from various sites tainted with you're own story/twist to it.

How do you explain ancient aliens? Multi Dimensional beings? All of these stories a decoy as well?



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by windlass34
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There are indeed members with background in Math and Physics; I am one of them. And I smell BS big time here... Fermionic field.... Right. It is a mathematical apparatus to describe the particle behavior, not a "real" field. It takes more than some salts, precious metal (iridium) and heavy water (deuterium oxide) to make a UFO fly :-)


Considering that today is the first day of your registering, this being your first post and with your claim of knowing that it takes more than "some salts, precious metal (iridium) and heavy water (deuterium oxide) to make a UFO fly ".. Would you please expand on your background and where you studied at?


Thanks!



[edit on 7/6/2010 by JohnnyAnonymous]



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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Tell us about time travel? Oh wait you can't, because the US is not ready to
release that info yet. That would be an update from them, right? Since when they first released the info nobody paid attention.

WE KNOW that those beings are from the future but they never do come into existence because WE corrected that problem and didn't make HYBRID BEINGS.

The GOVERNMENTS of this world DO NOT WORK with these beings, most of them have yet to discover the truth. ITS not easy to communicate with them in a dimensional state and it ain't easy to get there either. Now see if I know what they are and so do others so you don't know anything. BUT continue in having your dreams and vision of UFOS......



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:28 AM
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And I smell BS big time here... Fermionic field.... Right.


That BS bell rang with me as well when I read that...then it got funnier!

Indeed! It is merely a functional representation (mathematical) of the supersymmetric lattice field theory!
Schroedinger's Cat??

That reminds me...where is Schrodinger's Dog??
The ATS member...He might get a chuckle from this
Dog and Cat (couldn't resist) show
arxiv.org...

The Morse code was fun guys. Just had to copy it with the sound of CW in my head.. hi hi
73



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:28 AM
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Great thread, OP!

Or I guess that I should say Great cliff hanger.

Too bad that I had to waste so much time reading the drivel about spelling and punctuation.

MolecularPHD, I'm waiting to read more. Very interesting.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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Not all objects in the sky are ours.

Nor are they of worldly origin.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by cripmeister
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