N0_hope maybe you should learn latin. Novus Ordo Seclorum doesn't mean "New Order for the Ages" by the state department, but by all who were
Roman.
Seclorum is the plural genetive of "Generation//Age" and therefore the direct translation means "New Order for the Ages//Generations" and the
context is what seperates which. Since on the dollar bill there IS no context, it can be either.
I like to think of it as both, a New order for the Ages (meaning eternal) and for the Generations (meaning for the people through out all time).
I'm really growing tired of your banter, half of it is wrong, the other half is opinions which means it has nothing to do with facts anyways.
In this case you blurred the two together. Making a horribly wrong assumption.
As for the NWO, it doesn't exist, just a big fanciful and imaginative invention by those who think that world politics HAS to be ran by some
organized effort. If you look through out all history, this always seems to be the case, was the Peloponesian war an attempt at the NWO to defeat
Democracy? Did they only fail to achieve that goal once Rome took power, only to eventually defeat Roman representative democracy with their pawn,
Julius Ceasar and the leader of the NWO, Octavius//Augustus. Was Cassius an NWO assassin? Bah.
Open a history book. Nothing going on now, that is any different than what happened 5000 years ago, it's just the stakes are a lot higher. Now we
are gambling with the WHOLE world, and not just a city or a prairie.
In close, about "Novus Ordo Seclorum" it too is strait from a poem by Virgil (this is because the person who chose it to be on the seal read Virgil,
and he also was not a Freemason. None of the members of the "winning" seal designers were Freemasons.)
Anyways, in Virgil's poem it means the same thing "New Order for the Ages//Generations".
Oh well anyways N0_hope you're wrong, I suggest you read Virgil sometime
To be honest though, and I know this is going to stir the pot but Saeculum meaning "generations//ages" and such (do note the spelling) ALSO can mean
"HEATHENISM" so.
If it were "Novus Ordo Saeculorum" it could be New Heathenistic Order or such...Pagan order.
However, one could argue that's why Romans would spell the plural of Saecula as Seclorum, to avoid any such confusions as to if you are referring to
a time, a people, or a group of heathens.
Whatever, read Virgil, doesn't even matter since the guy who came up with the seal had NOTHING to do with Secret Societies what so ever.
*EDIT* accidentally spelt saeculorum as saeculum, which is the nomitive and accusitive singular.
Also would like to add, Seculorum//seclorum/saeclorum what have you. It is a Noun. Hence why it is "New order of the Ages//Generations and has
nothing to do with the word "Secular" which is an Adjective.
Once again, translations from Medieval Latin to English have bitten the ignorant.
[Edited on 12-3-2003 by Hammerite]