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NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

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posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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President Obama...

"No No Mr. Bolden, I don't need you to plan a moon mission or a mars mission, I am scrapping that. Your new mandate....

Make other parts of the world feel good about themselves and get children involved in math and science.

Yes, yes, I know you are the head of NASA. I changed the name. It no longer stands for National Aeronautics and Space Administration but now stands for...

Nothing About Space Anymore.

Catchy isn't it?"




posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Nice one Gaotu.

Strange story indeed. So NASA call up some Muslim people and give them a tour around their facilities, meanwhile we are bombing or thinking about bombing the crap out of them at the same time!

Or maybe the US knows something that we don't regarding where future funding for missions will have to come from???


Maybe the Middle East is where it's at baby.

Who knows, maybe it's the only place that will be livable after some kind of disaster??

Who knows. It seems a bit suss that the US has so many interests over there, and now they are talking about NASA and the Muslim world.

...maybe I am looking too much into it and I need some sleep.




posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by guohua
reply to post by hippomchippo
 


I do know very well that Al jazeera is a international news channel. I have watched this so called news channel in the past. But after the out right lies I witness being told as facts on this station, and I having personnel knowledge otherwise, I don't listen to that station any more, and this had happened more than once or twice.

Don't get me started about our own MSM. Don't watch.

It's not NASA's job to improve international relations, That is Hillary's job.
NASA is in the business of space, travel, exploration and all the little goodies that come with that. Keep the peoples in space safe and keep going further and further out to explore, not this stagnate low orbit crap.

You want to get other countries involved with space exploration? Get the monies from them first and a firm commitment.

hippomchippo, I don't care what country you are from, but when your statement to me, when read sounds like Obama is doing his best and i didn't get it.
I'll conceder you an Obamanite, so if I'm wrong on that account, I apologize.

I never said Obama is doing his best.
I said that he's trying to reach out to the international community with this space program, and you're the one poo pooing it because you have some fascination with the idea that Obama is trying to send his muslim buddies on a spaceflight to mars or something, it's ridiculous.
We're all humans, we ALL deserve to go to space, regardless of nationality.
It's NASAs job to improve international relations if we EVER want to get ANYWHERE with space, do you expect the U.S to keep visiting other planets with no help from any other country?
You can "conceder" me an obamanite, but I'm not, and I don't like him at all.

[edit on 5-7-2010 by hippomchippo]



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 07:55 PM
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1. There's nothing wrong with inspiring youngsters in foreign countries who may one day be pioneering space travellers.

2. Reaching out to over a billion people has nothing to do with Obama's cancellations of Ares Moon missions.

3. NASA still intends to go to Mars with Orion.

4. The headline doesn't reflect the entire context of the article, but it's Fox news so it's going to try and provoke anti-Obama sentiments as much as possible (even where none are applicable).



[edit on 5-7-2010 by john124]



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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No, the entire world is not entitled to visit space, those that allocate the funds for space exploration deserve to visit space. The fact that Obama gave him these instructions are ridiculous, This country was founded on no favoritism for any religion, not just the space program. If his statement is true, this is clear religious favoritism and activism. This is what the founders of this country left England for. Folks, we are in for a long and horrible ride.....



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Here is an article from The Washington Examiner which has a bit more text to the article. Note the last line of the article of NASA's new title of "an earth improvement agency."

Obama’s new mission for NASA: Reach out to Muslim world
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
07/05/10 2:50 AM EDT

In a far-reaching restatement of goals for the nation’s space agency, NASA administrator Charles Bolden says President Obama has ordered him to pursue three new objectives: to “re-inspire children” to study science and math, to “expand our international relationships,” and to “reach out to the Muslim world.” Of those three goals, Bolden said in a recent interview with al-Jazeera, the mission to reach out to Muslims is “perhaps foremost,” because it will help Islamic nations “feel good” about their scientific accomplishments.

In the same interview, Bolden also said the United States, which first sent men to the moon in 1969, is no longer capable of reaching beyond low earth orbit without help from other nations.

Bolden made the statements during a recent trip to the Middle East. He told al-Jazeera that in the wake of the president’s speech in Cairo last year, the American space agency is now pursuing “a new beginning of the relationship between the United States and the Muslim world.” Then:

When I became the NASA Administrator — before I became the NASA Administrator — [Obama] charged me with three things: One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math, and engineering.

Later in the interview, Bolden discussed NASA’s goal of greater international cooperation in space exploration. He said the United States, more than 40 years after the first moon mission, cannot reach beyond earth’s orbit today without assistance from abroad:

In his message in Cairo, [Obama] talked about expanding our international outreach, expanding our international involvement. We’re not going to go anywhere beyond low earth orbit as a single entity. The United States can’t do it, China can’t do it — no single nation is going to go to a place like Mars alone.

Bolden’s trip included a June 15 speech at the American University in Cairo. In that speech, he said in the past NASA worked mostly with countries that are capable of space exploration. But that, too, has changed in light of Obama’s Cairo initiative. “He asked NASA to change…by reaching out to ‘non-traditional’ partners and strengthening our cooperation in the Middle East, North Africa, Southeast Asia and in particular in Muslim-majority nations,” Bolden said. “NASA has embraced this charge.”

“NASA is not only a space exploration agency,” Bolden concluded, “but also an earth improvement agency.”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: www.washingtonexaminer.com...



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by Phlynx
What does NASA have to do with Muslims in the first place?


That was my very first thought as well.

Seems out of place to me.

Raist



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by habu71
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No, the entire world is not entitled to visit space, those that allocate the funds for space exploration deserve to visit space. The fact that Obama gave him these instructions are ridiculous, This country was founded on no favoritism for any religion, not just the space program. If his statement is true, this is clear religious favoritism and activism. This is what the founders of this country left England for. Folks, we are in for a long and horrible ride.....

Wow, the founders of America left England because the english were giving equal opportunities to everyone?
I need to brush up on my history then.
I'd also like to know how it's favoritism when NASA is also doing everything they can with AMERICAN children and trying to entice AMERICAN children to become more involved in science and math.
Oh no, they're trying to reach out to countries they've been bombing over the last 10 years, those darn muslim socialists!

[edit on 5-7-2010 by hippomchippo]



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 08:47 PM
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No, the founders left England because of religious favoritism and persecution.



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by habu71
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No, the founders left England because of religious favoritism and persecution.

This isn't religious favoritism, this is called being fair to everyone.
He's trying to lighten international tensions and try to get everybody on board for a global space program, I thought this would be obvious and that people would support it.
I'm wondering where the persecution is though...

[edit on 5-7-2010 by hippomchippo]



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 08:51 PM
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NASA is an American space agency, not an international one. It is funded by the American taxpayer, not the UN or a consortium of international members. The function of NASA is to further the AMERICAN space efforts......If the muslim world wants to join the legitimate space world, let them fund and develop their space programs.



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by habu71
reply to post by hippomchippo
 


NASA is an American space agency, not an international one. It is funded by the American taxpayer, not the UN or a consortium of international members. The function of NASA is to further the AMERICAN space efforts......If the muslim world wants to join the legitimate space world, let them fund and develop their space programs.

Yes, and how far has that gotten you?
If you want to keep your borders on space travel we will get NOWHERE.
We are eventually going to need to unite and form an international space agency.
I wonder what you would have said if JFK had proposed this idea.

[edit on 5-7-2010 by hippomchippo]



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by john124
NASA's chief wants the people of our planet (including Americans) to love science, maths and engineering, and so progress the future of our species with their enthusiasm for space exploration. [edit on 5-7-2010 by john124]


NASA is a joke! Who the hell put them in charge of the world's efforts for space exploration? Human's reach into space was ever expanding before the US made it to the moon. NASA is a self-concerned American company that only cares about space exploration if it is somehow profitable, because the only way to fund their missions is to wow the investors.

Space exploration needs to be placed into the hands of a capable power, one that believes in human expansion into space over any monetary cost. Humans are the most adaptable creature on earth and it is time we adapted ourselves to other, uninhabited planets so we can stop bombing the crap out of each other here for territory while destroying the environment in the process.

In fact, I personally believe space exploration is the only viable step left in producing global social order on this planet. Once we have another planet, Earth will become unified quite easily. This is much more effective than exploring inner space because those who are "in the know" of what life is all about have simply looked at the world as it is and said "f*** it" and decided to live out their lives on personal journeys and not for the benefit of humanity as a whole.



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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*double post, sorry guys

[edit on 5-7-2010 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi]



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 10:26 PM
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This is the end game of all the diversity whores and their policies. NASA has not only been basically shut down by this boy king to channel money to 3rd world and homegrown parasites in the country, but now its being turned into an HR department and PR machine for a religion that originates from countries that barely have running water and the wheel.

The Right Stuff? Not hardly. That would be unfair and mean to the rest of the world. We must embrace our place on the world stage and flush any ideas of national pride and mandate, all for the common good. *vomits*

Maybe they can turn the space shuttle into a mosque? How about turning the ISS into a kind of cosmic diversity training center complete with soup kitchens and government issued korans? Or how about just turning KSC into one big government housing project for muslims and other assorted third world "endangered species"?

I really appreciate all of you progressive and "social justice" types, along with all the MTV zombies for putting a ^%#$ like this in office so he can s^#! all over Western civilizations achievements, all for the glory of diversity and feel goodery to just make it "fair" for everybody. These circus freaks he has appointed is beyond the pale. There is no end to this madness. Why doesnt Obongo just pull out his gear at a press conference and just piss all over Buzz Aldrin and Armstrongs face? At least it would dispense with the red tape and it would also ensure him a second term with the white guilt crowd.



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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What really confuses me and raises suspicion about this is this statement from NASA Administrator Charles Bolden..


"When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering,"


As if "dominantly muslim nations" need or want America to tell them they should "Feel good about their historic contributions to science". The entire statement sounds like it was vomited up for the Al Jazeera interview in particular.

As if Obama's "new direction" for NASA weren't bad enough. Now NASA's job appears to include pandering to "dominantly muslim nations" for purposes of making them feel better about themselves?

Maybe this is going to be used to justify dumping taxpayer dollars down the throats of these countries in hopes that they'll "give a little back" to NASA's new internationalized/corporate direction as layed out by Obama.

-ChriS



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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This just in....

The border security issue has been turned over to the Administration on Aging and the economic woes will be the responsibility of the US Geological Survey.

He really is turning this into an amusement park ride and its making me very dizzy. Let me off, please!



posted on Jul, 5 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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"When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," Bolden said in the interview.



Congratulations America on electing your first Muslim President!

As most of you likely know, Muslims put their religion and their legal traditions ahead of all else, and ahead of all national allegiances. So, it should come as no surprise that Obama should be putting relationships with Muslims ahead of all other considerations.

It is more important than the actual science that NASA is supposed to be doing. It is more important than ensuring that America maintain superiority in critical science and technology.

It should also come as no surprise that Obama is a big "internationalist"...what was it he recently said, that the U.S. should be the leader of a new world order?

America needs to get this guy out, before he completely kills the country.



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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Thank you j124, I was surprised to see the negative slant when I found this thread. I had intended to begin a thread with a bit of a different slant - I actually got excited to read FoxNews.com article. The story reports that in a recent interview, Mr. Bolden stated that according to Mr. Obama, "his 'foremost' mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world."
www.foxnews.com...

The article then states at the end of the first paragraph: "He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel."

Here's my slant: when I want my children to behave I say things like "you guys better get along if you want to go to Six Flags..." This is a BIG 'what if', but WHAT IF we are analogous to our children and WE are being told "you better get along with your brothers if you want to go to [insert planet/solar system/galaxy here]."

Let's be honest, the article is correct in stating that "international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA's orbit." Perhaps there is another clue further down the article:

"Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission -- in a distinctly non-diplomatic role.

"Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.

He said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help."

So, in a nutshell: Mr. Bolden advancing relations with the Muslim world will advance space travel (fascinating); the "mission" is not diplomatic in nature (perplexing and seemingly self contradictory); and we're not going far into space on our own (you kids better get along!)...



posted on Jul, 6 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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okay that's the reason obama is destroying the best en greatest agency of the usa.

The muslims in the middle east and other regions are offended by the high technology of Nasa .. So not to offend the muslims around the world because of there Jealousy Obama and bolden are destroying Nasa to get in to a better relationship with nations like iran , syria ect . eventhough Iran is getting into space too.



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