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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:12 AM
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Your statement is making an assertion that certain anomalies appearing and 'changes' would be openly reported for the masses to digest. That is the largest false assumption of all.

As long as people remain in a state of confusion regarding these issues, then the status quo is achieved. Peace to you Stereologist.





[edit on 7-7-2010 by benedict9]




posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by dragnet53

Originally posted by virgom129
Nice but what does this have to do with NIBIRU??

I'm now officially past the stage of considering NIBIRU/Planet X stuff...

If a huge star/planet was going to impact Earth in 2012 we would be seeing it by now and feeling it's effects...


um actually MSM has stated this year is an unusual year for high magnitude earthquakes and volcanic activity.

So it's close enough to effect our tectonic plates yet not close enough to make ANY difference in gravity within our solar system?



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by benedict9
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I would never expect anybody to go on my word alone regarding this matter. Truth must be realised, not told. However there are messengers sharing what they feel is right to share in the interest of conditioning and spiritual preparation.

Many understandably do not actively seek out such related knowledge, and as I have stated, these are not comfortable truths for many to WANT to seek out. I accept this, as this is not a conversion, it is a revelation. Peace.


Wow, once again that means nothing.
You said you had a scientist, not a spiritual messenger.
It's amazing that you will lie to fufill your own theories and try to pass it onto others.

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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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There are many truths and many lies in this world of illusions. Some however are better graced to 'know' the difference. And no, I am not implying I am special to have received personal confirmations of both a spiritual AND scientific nature to make such disclosures.

My role here is as messenger alone. There is a reason why people are provided certain knowledge and CHOOSE to share in spite of understanding it is much much easier to remain silent.

I will repeat, this is not a conversion. Truth eventually comes to those who seek. Opposing opinions in turn mean nothing to me personally and does not affect the state of coming changes. Your officials and elite are preparing, even if you aren't--it makes no difference to them either what you choose to embrace or reject. Peace.


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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Wow. You knew that too! That's good. Not please tell us how a radio telescope is set up to see the hoax you so adamantly support.

Notice everyone how dragnet53 did not provide a link to my post
Stereologist's Post
This was obviously done so that dragnet could lie about what I had posted.


For those that are new to this false claim of Nibiru there is the often stated claim of a telescope at the South Pole. Yes it is there, but it's a radio telescope, not an optical device.


I provided an informative post so that people would understand what is being discussed.

Sorry dragnet53, but you have failed - AGAIN!

The real issue is that any telescope in the southern hemisphere would long ago have seen an incoming planet. Yes, the entire southern hemisphere can see something headed at the South Pole.

Unknown planet - a whopping failure of a claim.



And even if they found something, do you think they will share the info with us?



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Nope they sure wouldn't. I believe once NASA became a part of the government they have the ability to classify any "rock" in space from the public.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by benedict9
 


Actually the real threats ARE NOT listed publicly. You are merely provided the impression of transparency regarding these things, I am sorry to say.

Wrong. They use the help of amateurs to find out if a rock is really a threat or not just after it is discovered before anyone would even know to cover it up. I do not appreciate the insinuation that I am trying to deceive.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by benedict9
Your statement is making an assertion that certain anomalies appearing and 'changes' would be openly reported for the masses to digest. That is the largest 'false' assumption of all.

As long as people remain 'confused' regarding these issues, then the status quo is achieved. Peace to you Stereologist

You could not hide the anomalies nibiru would create in the orbits of the planets from amateur astronomers.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:51 AM
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You give your amateurs way too much credit. They are restricted in many ways by the capabilities of their equipment, not to mention the data that will never be released publicly if deemed to threaten national security measures. Are you aware billions of dollars have already been invested towards highly sophisticated all sky surveys to detect and chart these incoming bodies. The main cover story is that they are spending these huge funds in attempts to discover the origins of our universe. Feel free to swallow that line if it makes you more comfortable. I am just a regular 'nobody' with no 'credibility' so feel free to dismiss these words.

BTW incoming space rocks ARE classified.
www.space.com...

Do some additional research and you might get a nasty surprise about what your trusted governments and CONTRACTED compartmentalized agencies will allow you to know regarding such events. I am not here to feed people with 'proof' for that is subjective regardless. Evidence is certainly out there amongst the sea of disinfo for true seekers to connect the dots and raise their own awareness.

P.S- A person can only deceive themselves. I trust my sources 100 per cent and I take these disclosures very seriously. You will witness things in the coming years that will test your spiritual and physical resolve beyond just the intensifying Earth changes. Peace.


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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Archirvion
Nice thread. As a scientist i must admit we have known about this for some years now,we are keeping the main info close to our hearts,but this is a nice thread to inform the public out there.

We do have nir-marked up on our map per today and know its location.

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your keeping it close to your hearts? why?

why not share it with the world?

what gives you the right to withhold interesting information about things in outer space?

if i found something interesting out there id deffinately tell someone you gain nothing from keeping it a secret except a feeling of self importance.

its people like you in our government and NASA who keep information from the public that are holding humans as a race back from growing.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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Although i respect the fact that you arent trying to attack me, and you are taking my criticism calmly, i find that you are still trying to put yourself above other people. For example you put human in brackets, as if to say you are not human, but in fact a higher being.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by benedict9
reply to post by ngchunter
 


You give your amateurs way too much credit. They are restricted in many ways by the capabilities of their equipment, not to mention the data that will never be released publicly if deemed to threaten national security measures.

I am an amateur, and no I'm not giving us too much credit. No one is stopping us from releasing our data.


Are you aware billions of dollars have already been invested towards highly sophisticated all sky surveys to detect these incoming bodies.

Are you aware that all sky surveys by their nature are not ideal for finding threatening objects in the sky, which is why there are programs specifically targeted for that purpose? They are very useful for the purposes of referencing later for confirmation, but not as useful for discovery as targeted searches.


The cover story is that they are spending these huge funds trying to discover the origins of our universe. Feel free to swallow that line if it makes you more comfortable.

You must prove that it is only a "cover story." I have yet to see you prove that claim.


BTW incoming space rocks ARE classified.

Try reading more than just the headline sometime, it would help you be less ignorant. I can't tell you how many people I've seen fooled by that story because they either don't know what it was really talking about or they simply don't care. The only thing that was classified were observations from spy satellites which look back at earth and occasionally detect a fireball from an object already hitting our atmosphere. Truly incoming space rocks that are out there are not classified and the data about them is freely available.
neo.jpl.nasa.gov...


Do some additional research and you might get a nasty surprise about what your trusted governments and CONTRACTED compartmentalized agencies will allow you to know regarding such events.

I've been doing astronomy for 15 years, I'm well aware of what is "classified" and what isn't. Threatening space rocks are not classified and in fact amateur help is enlisted when a new object is found so that its orbit can be refined and determined to be a threat or not.


I am not here to feed people with 'proof' for that is subjective regardless.

Real proof is not subjective.


P.S- A person can only deceive themselves. I trust my sources 100 per cent and I take these disclosures very seriously.

You obviously don't even understand the nature of what you thought was a "disclosure."

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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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BTW incoming space rocks ARE classified.
www.space.com...



A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released, SPACE.com has learned.


The operatives here being "military" and "hush-hush." Not "civilian," or for that matter "European." Also. that's only for data collected by satellites, not independent ground based observers. Pay attention much?


You give your amateurs way too much credit.


Why do you insist upon insulting people? You do realize that Uranus, Neptune and Pluto were all discovered by "amateur" astronomers? Amateur astronomers are frequently the first to discover comets, asteroids, supernovae, etc. Do you think you're bolstering your claim to be a "scientist" by disparaging people who actually observe the universe around them?


I am not here to feed people with 'proof' for that is subjective regardless.


Either a planet is out there or it is not. It is not "subjective." So why are you here, then?


P.S- A person can only deceive themselves.


Then why are you trying to deceive others? You claim you trust your sources... who or what are they? Why should your sources be more trustworthy than everyone else's own eyes? Anyone can go outside at night with a pair of binoculars and look for "Nibiru." Just tell them where to look. Enlighten us, please.


Peace.


Utter hypocrisy from a duplicitous fear monger.

To the Mods: a bit more ad hom than one would wish, but I find benedict9's attitude personally insulting.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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Your replies reveal much about your own perspective. It will change in due course I assure you. This is not fear mongering, it is truth--whether you can deal with it or not.

If you feel I am making up schizophrenic stories and that I have not received high level disclosures, so be it. I am not here to prove anything, just delivering a message.


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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by xspinx
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It is SUPPOSED to be huge, we do not know that yet. And i believe that the planet has a huge speed, which in a collision with Earth will be more devastating than a slow planet hitting Earth.


A planet the size of Jupiter would just absorb Earth, regardless of its speed.

Here's the result of an Earth-sized object impacting Jupiter.

Seriously. Any giant "Planet X" would just have to be near Earth and draw it in with its huge gravitational pull. No "huge speed" required. But either way, Earth is GONE.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by benedict9
reply to post by ngchunter
 


I am certain your arrogant replies make you feel very clever. However they only serve to reveal to me how in the dark you really are.

Who was in the dark about that space.com story? Do you still think "incoming space rocks" are classified or not? You can assault my character all you want but it won't change the truth.


If you feel I am making up schizophrenic stories and that I have not received high level disclosures, so be it.

Where did I say you were making up stories? I said it's clear that you simply didn't understand the story you linked to, you demonstrated ignorance of its meaning. Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth?


I am not here to prove anything, just delivering a message.

www.poleshift2011.com

So you're just here to advertise for your website then?



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by benedict9
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I am certain your arrogant replies must make you feel very clever. However they only serve to reveal to me how in the dark you really are.


So, people who don't think the way you do are "in the dark." You are the one who knows the absolute truth.

Scavenger hunt! How many ATS cases of low self-esteem being overcompensated for with narcissistic megalomania can you find?



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by ngchunter


I am not here to prove anything, just delivering a message.

www.poleshift2011.com

So you're just here to advertise for your website then?


I'm willing to bet he also has poleshift2012.com, poleshift2013.com, poleshift2014.com, poleshift2015.com, poleshift2016.com, etc. registered as well.




posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:37 AM
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Funny how biased some replies can be. I have been labelled a liar, a deceiver, an insulter and a fear monger in just a few posts. And yet where are all my defenders lol. I will not preach to the converted. Peace.

P.S--I fast edited my site out of my reply in anticipation of such an accusation, but I see you were quick to lunge ngchunter
. So now it looks like you are advertising it for me. Those who are meant to encounter it will.

And I certainly don't have all the answers. However I have revealed what has been granted to me. And yes, those not privy to the truth of this matter are in the dark in a manner of speaking. And there is nothing wrong with that. We are all guided to certain truths eventually.


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posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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You are completely off topic. This thread is about astronomy, not you. Consider yourself busted.





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