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Originally posted by IamBoon
reply to post by antar
I never said I could disprove it... so no I cannot enlighten you. However based on your question maybe you can enlighten us on its existence?
Originally posted by Magnum007
reply to post by lagenese
Then what's the difference between the soul and the spirit? What are the different roles that they play?
This is getting interesting!
The ultimate Identity or Condition of the human person is not a mind, entity, or object. The inner core of the body-mind may appear to mystical vision as a point of light or any other subtle shape communicated by the nervous system, but the "Free soul" of the body-mind is the Radiant Transcendental Consciousness. The relationship between the Radiant Transcendental Consciousness and the body-mind is epitomized at the heart, where the experiential identification of the Radiant Transcendental Consciousness with the body-mind may be inspected and transcended. But there is no independent soul in the body-mind. Rather, the body-mind itself is the independent soul, or the psycho-physical covering of the Free soul. The Radiant Transcendental Consciousness, or the Free Condition of the body-mind, is intuited through discrimination ("re-cognition") at the right side of the heart. The point of discriminative intuition is not any muscular feature, such as the grape-like recess in the right atrium, nor any subtle visualization of lights in the central region of the heart. Rather, the Radiant Transcendental Consciousness is directly intuited and discriminated from limiting identification with the body-mind at the point where the Force of Life is tangibly combined with the nervous system.
Ramana: "The jiva is said to remain in the Heart in deep sleep, and in the brain in the waking state. Heart is not the muscular cavity which propels blood. It denotes in hthe Vedas and the scriptures the centre whence the notion 'I' springs. Does it spring from the ball of flesh? It does not, but from somewhere within us, from the centre of our being. The 'I' has no location. Everything is the Self. There is nothing but the Self. So the Heart must be said to be the entire body as well as the universe, conceived as 'I'. But to help the abhyasi we have to indicate a definite place in the universe, or the body, dor it. So this Heart is pointed out as the seat of the Self. But in truh we are everywhere; we are all that is, and there is nothing else".
Originally posted by lagenese
reply to post by Magnum007
According to the books The Secret doctrine, the soul enters the body when the baby takes its first breath. There is 5 books in this series, but unfortunately, i can't remember in which one its written.
Interestingly, there is a correlation between the soul’s emergence in various spiritual traditions and pineal formation. Specifically, the [pineal] gland first appears in the fetus 49 days after conception. This is the time Tibetan Buddhists believe it takes after death for the soul to finish its sojourn and reincarnate into the next body. This period also approximates the 40 days espoused by early Christians, such as St. Augustine, that it takes for the soul to enter the fetus.