Create and express 1 simple idea, or philosophy

Ok, i would like you if you are reading to create an idea of something that is of a topic of interests to you. Take something you care a lot about, weather it is a topic, or idea, or place, or thing, and create something new about it. You could create a solution, or an invention, or anything. Then take it and post it in this thread. The only rule is, it has to be new and completely independent.

Lets call it the creation experiment.

New energy. Attach wind turbines to planes to power the plane. Put material on the inside to absorb the heat of the energy to power it. Make the wings out of solar panels. Use bio-fuels. There you go, a self sufficient plane.

I have created/manifested several characters that play a big role in my life.

It started with a drawing. I would continue to refine and perfect my drawings of this character, until that character became a part of me.

I have done this with several different entities. It's awesome.

Cool thread onequestion. You have been having a lot of creative threads lately. Good for you!

-Sol

This has been on my mind a lot lately. Considering I am agnostic, I don't know where to go with this theory on a scientific stand point.

When we die, and we decompose in the earth, our chemicals go into the ground. Humans come from that which we eat, which is plants and animals. These animals come from plants, which get energy from the sun, and also get nutrients from the soil and water. As our matter combines with other matter from other dead humans in a long existence from plant to animal to human, or plant to animal, or just to plant, could we get that consciousness of that being? Do we come back to life in that one being, not remembering anything?

I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

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Interesting post! I'd like to respond.

I don't think a human could pick of the consciousness of another human through eating. You put it better: "from plant to animal to plant to animal" and so on. I don't think so.

The reason I don't think so is because consciousness lies within the brain. If you take part of the brain away, the consciousness is (usually, and most certainly if you take enough of it away) destroyed. Once you die and your brain has decomposed, the brain is gone, and the consciousness with it.

This is just my opinion! I would love to hear others.

Kind regards

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Hey thanks man!

Phlynx,

Your ideas are exactly what i am talking about. You may be right, we may gain consciousness of these things. We may actually be everyone of these things, existing within ourselves.

Make the foreign policies decisions open to the public and participatory. Use the internet to include the opinions of the public, make surveys that bring to light the pros and cons of such decisions as sanctions, or military actions.

The argument that such transparency will put our enemies on alert, losses strength as the pros of having an united front on whatever decision are realized.

There is something new, Foreign policies decisions made out in the open not in behind close doors.

Originally posted by Hitotsumami
reply to post by Phlynx

 

Interesting post! I'd like to respond.

I don't think a human could pick of the consciousness of another human through eating. You put it better: "from plant to animal to plant to animal" and so on. I don't think so.

The reason I don't think so is because consciousness lies within the brain. If you take part of the brain away, the consciousness is (usually, and most certainly if you take enough of it away) destroyed. Once you die and your brain has decomposed, the brain is gone, and the consciousness with it.

This is just my opinion! I would love to hear others.

Kind regards

I see what you mean, but what I am saying is that we are "gone" for a while, and then the materials would get together in a new "body" so to speak, and once the body is created, there is a new conscious being. The problem is trying to understand if you will feel it or not, but the problem is you wouldn't know that was your consciousness, because you would have been blipped out for a while, and now you have bits and pieces of other "molecules".

I just noticed a flaw though. The molecules wouldn't matter. One piece of Carbon is pretty much the same as the other piece, so on that level, we would just die.

Interesting hypothesis I came up with though.

reply to post by Phlynx


Yes, you put it very well.

At it's base, we are all made up of the same things. Consciousness is only created by combining these bases in a particular order. Once the brain decomposes, perhaps a human will eventually receive a tiny molecule of what was once a brain. It would hold no consciousness however, because it needs more than just that tiny part.

Kind regards

Very cool idea for a thread.

Idea: Create a social status system not linked to material goods/consumption. Most people link their social status to the size of their house, how many handbags they have, etc. Assuming for the sake of argument that we cannot eliminate the human hunger for status and hierarchy, at least find a way to re-define the pecking order in a less tangible way, so that people would not need to consume excessive amounts of space, material goods, etc. just to prove to themselves and others that they are "winners" rather than "losers."

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Great idea, I have seen so many go in debt just trying to keep up with the Jone's. I have tried getting this type of thought thru to my daugther - if a friends gets a new car, she has to have one, if someone she knows gets a new living room set, she has to get one - even tho what she has is perfectly fine. I have changed my lifestyle considerly -Years ago I sold off most of what I didnt need to exist, paid my debts and oh do I feel better for it. Simplicity can create a peaceful mind which is so much better.

Any ideas on how we can get others to understand this?

Originally posted by crazydaisy
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Great idea, I have seen so many go in debt just trying to keep up with the Jone's. I have tried getting this type of thought thru to my daugther - if a friends gets a new car, she has to have one, if someone she knows gets a new living room set, she has to get one - even tho what she has is perfectly fine. I have changed my lifestyle considerly -Years ago I sold off most of what I didnt need to exist, paid my debts and oh do I feel better for it. Simplicity can create a peaceful mind which is so much better.

Any ideas on how we can get others to understand this?

Actually, I have no idea on how to implement this. Socialism wouldn't be the answer because it is still a materialist philosophy. Socialism/communism tries to eradicate the competitive spirit for pure cooperation, which doesn't really fit with human psychology IMHO. So it has to be something else. I'd like to think I'm a fairly intelligent guy but I know I'm no genius, so I have no idea exactly how to implement such a system.

I do know one thing, though...people measure their happiness in comparison with others. Like you mentioned your daughter wanting a car because her friends have one. If none of her friends had cars, she wouldn't care. So the answer lies in getting everyone to agree to "play by different rules" somehow, rather than changing the absolute amount of what people have (beyond the bare necessities of survival that is).

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A very simplistic political idea I've had for many years....

Scrap the Two Party Preferred Voting System that we have here in Oz.. actually scrap all of them anyway and start fresh.

Each town could offer one Honest Person to attend an Assembly which replaces the Governments we have now.

Reduce the Pay for Politicians to the average wage and allow some small perks like Car and phone.

This way you will know who is in Politics for the Lifestyle and who is there to create healthy change.

In such an Assembly there would be no acceptance of pressure groups and their funding to gain favour, and all members could vote according to their own conscience instead of having to tow the Party Line.

This should provide a responsible governance that does not cost a fortune to run, it should provide an honest and see-through governance that allows any one Member to be sacked for lack of performance.. or, for under the table dealings instead of how it is now where the Elites run it all and make an awesome Lifestyle/Living out of being a politician.. who after all is only supposed to be a Public Servant and not a servant to their own Rich and Famous Lifestyle.

Add one whole year to school curriculum's, concerning the working of the state, all pertinent domestic laws& rights, human rights , international charters and treaties ..... the works . Then send the young adult into the world ..... informed .

Worldwide science truce.

A truce to allow anyone who is pursuing any advancement in science or technology to do so free of charge until, if they choose to, decide to start selling it.

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how about make everything cost the same amount? an amount that is within the means of all the people, "rich" and "poor."

just for example, say everything that can be purchased, from a hummer to a mechanical pencil costs $10.

sure you can buy 10 hummers, but your neighbor isn't impressed because he's got a tin can in his study full of 10 brand new mechanical pencils, and you both spent $100.

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i've had thoughts along the same lines, and i really like the way Pericles did it in ancient Greece - the father of democracy.

everyone has to eventually serve a year as public servant - maybe done by lot or something randomly fair, kind of like jury duty only there are no excuses.

once you've done your year, your name won't be drawn again but you've not only served your fellows, you've learned a lot and now have empathy and understanding for the "system."

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People really are fundamentally competitive. Even here, we're all seeing if we can "win" with the best creative idea - although it is a friendly and positive expression of the human need to compete.

I've often wondered whether the bizarre formulations that have evolved over the centuries concerning religion and theology aren't simply the result of competitive people seeking to put their imprint on the most important aspect of their own lives. Changing things up simply to be able to look at it all afterward and say to themselves "I did that..."

To that end, I've considered a religion - based on Christianity - that establishes that the basis of Jesus' ministry was to get people to understand that the only true "winner" in life was the person who was most capable of selfless love (Agape love). And that the act of "generating" this love, by way of actual brain wave patterns, would seal the person's place in heaven through a form of metaphysical key-lock acceptance protocol involving the actual physics of that kind of energy.

Then, I considered that brain-wave monitors could be configured to display the kind of wave pattern associated with compassionate thinking, and that people could sit within isolation pods (like some of the newer games at a video arcade) and "compete" with these "compassion patterns" through bio-feedback technigues to "generate Love" and win entry into heaven.

Of course, it'd be religion, so it'd be as real as the people engaged in it would think it is, but think of the potential for a competition to be the most loving person in a congrgation. The "jackpot" could even involve bells and sirens going off around the isolation pod, and some sort of acknowledgement for the person who just achieved "Love". Then the totals could be tracked on a web site, and everyone involved could keep up with their relative status, comparing and competing with each other and leaving the religion's basic tenets free from their hyper-competitive nature.

I kind of like how all the most aggressive members of the congregation would be compelled to "practice loving selflessly" so as to be naturally warmed up for more and bigger brain-wave readings when they get back into a pod and go for gold. After a number of years, it could make being in such a congragation of people a pretty pleasant experience if you weren't deep into be competitive. Everyone who is naturally a competitive jerk would be insanely focused on being the most selfless and giving person in the whole congregation.

Imagine 2.5 billion Christians adopting this as a foundational tenet and practice. There'd be no more wars.

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Hello onequestion!

Things I have in mind I would like to see materialized is a drawing compass to make ovals instead of circles. As a penciler, it would be very useful. I've had this in mind for the last 20 years!

Also, I secretly hope to see in my life time the day we are presented with a new media system that feeds the visual info right into your ocular nerves and your brain is the remote/joystick. That would be incredible! Now we could say immersion!

Have classes that teaches how to raise a child. That is the most important aspect of human life and raison d'être and yet, we are left to ourselves when comes the time to make children. What I mean is the general guidelines of raising a child. How do you deal with a crisis, how do you help them give the best of themselves, how to keep them interested in a subject, etc.

Two of my ideas I've seen made recently are A) a rotating magnet motor that was first presented by a Russian scientist and presented as a free energy device in Scotland, I believe, recently. And yesterday I saw a thread about a superyatch that could transform into a submarine. I had both ideas 5 years ago. For the boat, I was saying it would be ideal in a storm to go beneath the flow to be in a calm environment. Sigh...

And lastly, since everything is provided by the earth "free of charge", I'd like to see money and its concept be eradicated. At the point we stand now, we could provide anything to everybody. So what if my neighbor wants a bigger house than mine! As long as I don't live in a s****y one!
Without money and with the proper education, it is not true that everybody would be lazy. And I would make mandatory jobs like garbage picking and stuff for people aged between 18 and 21. Why? We can all say it is not a desirable job to most ( but I DO know some people who really love doing this job! ) so it would be a kind of service to society before gaining access to a really "free of charge" status. And let's not forget we can now build robots to do really dirty, dangerous jobs.

And objects should now be built to last.

That's it for now! Salut!

Every death, every birth, every event of importance to our lives. This includes birthdays, anniversaries, and the expression of Love. All of these should be commemorated by planting a tree.

A minimal number of trees must be planted per person; once per year of that life. More trees ensures wiser friends; growing old and becoming wise becomes a Virtue.

Trees are souls, but they are all young souls because of past clearcutting and loss of environment; Ireland, England, Scotland, Spain, the Americas, were all Old Growth Forest once.

Diversity is the key in the Understanding of rebuilding a forest or a wooded sanctuary. Fruits, nuts, berries, and medicines.

Planting a tree for every event of our lives would be like installing a Diversity Manifest upon the land. (I don't think anyone has used these two words together prior to this post)

Diversity Manifest

We will call this 'Diversity Manifest'; each living community will enact a Global Planting paradigm in Culture and Story. The 20th Century will be the basis for this story (need I say more of that!)

Gone are the days with National Parks that support only scrub and juniper. Gone are the ranchers who fenced us from the open places. The Migration of creatures great and small begins anew, even people should migrate with Nature.

Eventually the diversity of the forest and woodlands encapsulates our diseases, our illnesses, and all our toxic pollution and brings out the Strongest of us all. The waters begin to flow clean with life once more.

I can see it.

So this is less a story and more my dreams. I already shifted my paradigm when I planted my first tree. I have done so for the remainder of my life.

Here is my latest effort.

Preparing grape cuttings for the Future.

I obtained 13 different Cultivars, 5 cuttings per Cultivar. They arrived wrapped in wet paper. The bare branches were soaked overnight then wrapped with a small amount of sterilized peat and perlite, as no part of the branch should touch soil for fear of bacteria. Once the roots extend past the paper then the plant can begin to utilize the natural ground and grow resistant and strong.

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All wrapped and ready for planting.
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All the cuttings must be placed in a 'nursery bed' for their first year. It must be able to keep the humidity for the rooting process.

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Now that the cuttings are growing the top layer of plastic can be removed. High winds and severe weather can be regulated by rolling the plastic back in place and securing with staples. In one year these can all be moved to a permanent planting utilizing the 4-branch training method for optimal fruit.

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Most of these are wine grapes, however, what most folks do not realize is that all wine grapes make excellent table grapes. It is encouraged to know the fruit fresh of the wine that you drink so you can learn to recognize the flavors between them.

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This was only a part of the introductions I have placed this year. This fall I will begin to germinate my woodland berries; these require a long winter to grow as seedlings, so the worst of what we face might be a good thing for the future plantings. I hear the weather will be getting colder and colder from here.

Diversity Manifest is your Destiny!

Here is a resource for Plants for the Future There is both a UK database and US.