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Originally posted by monkeySEEmonkeyDO
Why does God allow the existance of people who go to hell
Originally posted by monkeySEEmonkeyDO
I've always questioned why God, who is omni-present, allows the existence of people who will never make the decision to become "saved", and will go to hell.. According to the Bible, we all make our own decisions, and we are responsible for those decisions. But, if God KNOWS our decisions will place us in hell, then why would he allow us to come into existence? How can God "love us all" if God knows we are destined for hell?
What about the people who are born in total seclusion, and never have the chance to even hear about the Bible? Why would they be equally responsible compared to the ones who willfully ignore the Bible?
It all doesn't make sense to me...
Originally posted by Astyanax
Originally posted by adjensen
If I apply my limited knowledge of astronomy, think about it, fill in the holes in my knowledge with what seems right to me, I should come up with a pretty accurate picture of the nature of the Universe, right?
Right.
That is, in fact, precisely what astronomers and cosmologists do.
The only difference is that they know more about the subject than you do. On the subject of God, no such difference obtains. God is a subject on which everyone is equally ignorant, or equally expert if you will.
Originally posted by LuckyMe777
why would somebody choose hell over happiness?
I dont know about you, but if this god is real, i have some questions for him.
Originally posted by Astyanax
I await a worthier opponent.
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by adjensen
You labour under a misapprehension. I am not trying to prove that God doesn't exist. This is not possible and I would be a fool to try. I am merely pointing out that if such a being exists, then it is evil, because it allows avoidable suffering.
Good and evil may be subjective to you, but according to the Christian doctrine you claim to espouse they are absolute categories. How could God judge human acts except by the use of absolute categories?
Even it it were not so, it would make no difference to my argument. It doesn't matter how good and evil are defined, so long as they are agreed to exist. As long as evil exists, and God, omnipotent and omniscient as He is, allows it, God is evil. End of argument.
I await a worthier opponent.
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by JR MacBeth
Sorry, but I don't understand why reincarnation is "absurd" on closer inspection? Please explain if you will.
Thanks!
Originally posted by N.Tesla
Originally posted by monkeySEEmonkeyDO
I've always questioned why God, who is omni-present, allows the existence of people who will never make the decision to become "saved", and will go to hell.. According to the Bible, we all make our own decisions, and we are responsible for those decisions. But, if God KNOWS our decisions will place us in hell, then why would he allow us to come into existence? How can God "love us all" if God knows we are destined for hell?
What about the people who are born in total seclusion, and never have the chance to even hear about the Bible? Why would they be equally responsible compared to the ones who willfully ignore the Bible?
It all doesn't make sense to me...
Of course it doesn´t make sense! I don´t understand why people even believe this stuff. Try to prove "God" exists.. Ok now try to prove that there is no "God".. Come on people.. seriously..
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by JR MacBeth
Sorry, but I don't understand why reincarnation is "absurd" on closer inspection? Please explain if you will.
Thanks!
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
reply to post by Astyanax
But things have degenerated, to the point where even earthquakes are a thing people can avoid, and therefore it's their fault, their suffering is due to their lack of planning? Sheesh, I never would have thought things could get quite that low. Perhaps the poor retarded child in the earthquake zone, who suffers terribly before dying, well, they really should have figured out that they were asking for trouble!
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by JR MacBeth
Sorry, but I don't understand why reincarnation is "absurd" on closer inspection? Please explain if you will.
Thanks!
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by JR MacBeth
Sorry, but I don't understand why reincarnation is "absurd" on closer inspection? Please explain if you will.
Thanks!
Reincarnation only makes sense if you have accumulated knowledge, which you do not.
Originally posted by ptmckiou
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by JR MacBeth
Sorry, but I don't understand why reincarnation is "absurd" on closer inspection? Please explain if you will.
Thanks!
Reincarnation only makes sense if you have accumulated knowledge, which you do not.
Who is to say the intuition and deja vu aren't bleed overs from a past life, which means you retain or at least can access your accumulated knowledge to some degree.