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reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 11:44 AM by minute2midnight
reply to post by tsurfer2000h




Yes it is a reflection. Here is a pic of the dash of Jeep Patriot.




Notice the speaker. Notice the windshield. Now, replace that with a led lit speaker, which I've already posted. Go do some more research.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 11:56 AM by FireMoon
Originally posted by minute2midnight
reply to
post by tsurfer2000h




Yes it is a reflection. Here is a pic of the dash of Jeep Patriot.




Notice the speaker. Notice the windshield. Now, replace that with a led lit speaker, which I've already posted. Go do some more research.


Right lets just hold up for a moment here...

its broad daylight, even if cloudy. There are no internal lights on inside the car, that much we can surmise. Unless of course the person was setting out to create a fake, that's something totally different.

So lets just say, yes, the person has a single elliptical speaker mounted in the dash, that has LEDs on it. Fine, so why is the speaker surround also reflected back in the screen when there's no light source for it? The LEDS yes, but they should also show the cone and the tweeter assembly quite clearly if they show the surround and they don't. The Only light source from inside the car would be the LEDS and even more so in daylight, they would provide virtually no *flood lighting* effect to the rest of the speaker. Even if they do produce enough to reflect the speaker itself, there should be clearly visible pools of brighter areas where the speaker is shown in more detail around the LEDs. There isn't, and there should be.

IMHO it's a hoax, but it's not a reflection.



reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 11:58 AM by SeenMyShare
reply to post by bluemooone2


Ok, the image online - thanks for the link - is not the original since it's at 72 ppi but it will still work to explain my reasoning.



Everything outside of the car has motion blur. The object has no motion blur. It wasn't moving relative to the car. It was stationary within the car. The rain drop visible on the object is not as defined as the raindrops without a reflection affecting them.



The reflection and the scenery outside the car are blended, not one or the other as some suppose but a combination of both views.


Edit: fixed the links.

[edit on 4/7/2010 by SeenMyShare]


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:01 PM by FireMoon
Originally posted by SeenMyShare
reply to
post by bluemooone2


Ok, the image online - thanks for the link - is not the original since it's at 72 ppi but it will still work to explain my reasoning.



Everything outside of the car has motion blur. The object has no motion blur. It wasn't moving relative to the car. It was stationary within the car. The rain drop visible on the object is not as defined as the raindrops without a reflection affecting them.



The reflection and the scenery outside the car are blended, not one or the other as some suppose but a combination of both views.


Edit: fixed the links.

[edit on 4/7/2010 by SeenMyShare]


Apart from the w quite obvious double image of the LEDS caused by the motion?


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:06 PM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by minute2midnight



That is ok, but the only size that will fit the dash is 3.5 inch and that does not come in any other way except round and picture shown does not even come close to being round. Also you cannot get a speaker that big to fit up there. there is just not enough room.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:12 PM by SeenMyShare
reply to post by FireMoon


Actually, this is the first flying object I've seen with four evenly spaced bolt holes around it's perimeter! Wonder what they bolt to... each other?

It's a speaker, else the photographer would have stopped to get more and better photos. No one sees a true object in the sky like that and takes a single solitary photo. It would have been the sighting of a lifetime and with camera in hand they would have photographed till it left or they ran out of memory.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:14 PM by SeenMyShare
reply to post by FireMoon


Unbraced camera in the hand of an individual driving.... yeah I can explain the double image of the led's .


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:16 PM by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by Phage



Is there anything else which could have been reflecting at the same time?

If that speaker is on the dashboard facing upwards then i'd have to agree with you but is there anything else which should have been reflecting too?


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:18 PM by Phage
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist



I'm too old to have LED speakers.

It's a flashlight. Used for demonstration purposes.



reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:26 PM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by SeenMyShare



This was taken by a woman that was on her way to work and she took the picture with her cell phone. She probably didn't stop and get out as it looks like it was about to rain and she probably did not want to be late to work. Please tell me how you know these are bolt holes exactly.


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:30 PM by SeenMyShare
reply to post by tsurfer2000h

As an auto mechanic I've installed more than my share of speakers, both eliptical and round. I saw the bolt holes right away. I've also seen my share of speakers laying about in cars that were never properly installed, on the dash, the seat, the floor, taped to doors, and even mounted on steering wheels ). That, my good sir, is a speaker.

Edit to add: I could have been on my way to the hospital to deliver a baby and would STILL have stopped to get more photographs! Proof of UFOs versus job... no contest for me!

[edit on 4/7/2010 by SeenMyShare]


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 12:30 PM by CREAM
Originally posted by SeenMyShare
reply to
post by bluemooone2


Ok, the image online - thanks for the link - is not the original since it's at 72 ppi but it will still work to explain my reasoning.

Everything outside of the car has motion blur. The object has no motion blur. It wasn't moving relative to the car. It was stationary within the car. The rain drop visible on the object is not as defined as the raindrops without a reflection affecting them.


The reflection and the scenery outside the car are blended, not one or the other as some suppose but a combination of both views.


Edit: fixed the links.

[edit on 4/7/2010 by SeenMyShare]


Im not saying that its an UFO or not, I wasnt there so I not going to waste my time making assumptions, BUT, the sky isnt going to have motion blur lol, of course the trees and stuff on ground level has motion blur, but the sky is too far away for there to be motion blur... Just look out the window next time your driving in the car, the sky doesnt move by fast, tress on the side of the road do, "Everything outside the car has motion blur" is a simply inaccurate statement.
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