U.S. Concentration Camps, page 5

Originally posted by Army
Many federal military sites/bases are multi-use facilities. Avon even allows camping, fishing, and hunting as long as the Air Force isn't training. Here in California, Camp Parks is a SAT-COM site, and weapons range....with two federal prisons on it.

I am saying this is true or false, simply that I have seen it listed as a possible site and I find it strange. Someone asked if there was anything like this in the Tampa area, and the answer is therefore yes.

I also understand that there are facilities that have to be built that allow MP units to train in field prisoner camp facility setup/running procedures, and I think that camps like the one in Grayling MI fall into this category.

I similarly realize that they allow camping and such there as well, but there is still one major issue between the base you’re talking about and this one. You stated that your base has two Federal prisons on it; this one has a State run prison on it, and not even just a prison it’s in fact a Prison/Work Camp. Since when is a State Corrections Facility, allowed to be run by those that have only State Law Enforcement Jurisdiction, allowed to be on what is otherwise a piece of Federal Property and therefore under Federal Law Enforcement Jurisdiction?

By way of example state police do not work at the airport here, they MUST be Federal to have jurisdiction, since the airport proper is Federal property. The Air Traffic personnel are FAA (also Federal), but the people that maintain the buildings and Lawn are HCAA (Hillsborough County Aviation Authority). So how can State personnel have jurisdiction over a facility on Federal land to be operating the facilities main gate area (State officers running a federal military base main gate), and holding prisoners in what must by definition be a federal prison. We are not talking about the same thing as state park rangers as obviously state personnel can maintain Federal facilities; we are talking about law enforcement officer jurisdiction to maintain a law enforcement facility.

Allow me to further explain why I find this both weird and an issue. When I worked for the airlines down here we were told that if we did anything that was illegal on the ramp it was a Federal Crime, since it happened on Federal Property. It would be dealt with by Federal Police Officer, and tried in a Federal Court, and you would end up in a Federal Prison. So lets just say, with that in mind, if there was a use of force incident at this State Prison, lets say a guard had to shoot an escapee, who’s jurisdiction would that fall under?

Would that guard have had a legal right to shoot the prisoner since he was outside his jurisdiction and on Federal land? Who would investigate this? Who would hear the case? And finally if it was not a clean shoot, where would this guard end up going to prison him/her self?

Originally posted by Army
BTW, this thread started out saying a certain 3 fenced in water facilities are covert prison camps....because of all the barbed wire.

Another user had tried to start a new thread on this topic and was sent to this thread, along with several others, so if the Mods are going to make every other topic that falls into this subject go on this thread, don’t expect the topic to remain on the initial post.

Originally posted by Army
Uh...city/county/state drinking water reservoirs are always fenced in to keep people, and their pollution, out.

No argument there, I will even add to this to say its not uncommon to even have a artificial hill built to obstruct the view of what is on the other side of those fences as well, especially if its something that the public would consider an eyesore, or would make the property value decrease.