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Satan has no control over Hell, God is in control of all things. Hell was created explicitly to punish Lucifer and the 1/3 of the angels that fell. Lucifer doesn't want to be sent there anymore than you or I do. That is why when he is thrown out of heaven mid-way through the Tribulation it says he has great wrath "for he knows but his time is very short.."
Originally posted by Nosred
I was thinking one day about Hell and I came to a conclusion that got me thinking. If Satan's ultimate goal is to tempt people into sin so they will go to Hell why does he punish the sinners? Wouldn't it be more intelligent to reward the sinners? He should know that the knowledge of Hell being a bad place might deter some would-be sinners. Why doesn't Lucifer make Hell a paradise?
People are sent to Hell for sin. Nothing more, nothing less. Being sinners. We all deserve to go there. Now, on the other hand, God has given a free pass out to anyone who humbles themselves before Him and asks, but sadly many will reject that free gift.
Originally posted by Goddy
I often times also think like that, OP. If we are sent to this "hell" to be punished for not worshiping/following/believing in/etc. (an apparently, "all forgiving" being) God, wouldn't that mean that the devil and God are on the same team? As if God's the "good" one and the devil's the rowdier relative or something?
Nice idol God you've got there, but that is not the Lord as revealed in the Bible. "Sin" is breaking a commandment of God.
Originally posted by CSquared288
reply to post by NOTurTypical
do it without using a book that has been rewritten an ungodly amount of times by a ridiculous number of different people with different mindsets and different agendas.
nevermind im gonna finish. there is no seperate overlording judgemental god that looks at everything you do an decides whether he thinks you should be punished or not.
YOU ARE NOT seperate from god. rewards in life come from you and punishment in life comes from you. refer to my previous post
what you are purporting to 'know' and 'believe', and are disseminating to other minds looking for direction, is misguided conjecture that really only breeds doubt, confusion, and just a seeping depression in terms of life.
i mean think about it: i cant say for sure simply because i dont know you, but i can say with confidence that deep down you probably dislike the idea of someone else looking at you and telling you "this is what I judge you to be so deal."
how could he possibly understand me? He's not me.
that's the wrong way to look at it.
In fact, he is you, he does understand you
and he DOES NOT judge you because that would be masochistic.
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Originally posted by taccj9903
reply to post by MikeboydUS
So what about Romans 6:23?
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power
Originally posted by snowspirit
I've wondered that myself. I don't believe in it, but it would make more sense. I could never figure out the torture part of it either, because you don't have a physical body, so how could you feel pain?
Whoever does what is just and right, does so for his own good; and whoever does evil, does so to his own hurt; and in the end unto your Sustainer you all will be brought back. (45:15)
And yet they say: “There is nothing beyond our life in this world. We die as we come to life, and nothing but time destroys us.” But of this they have no knowledge whatever: they do nothing but guess. (45:24)
VERILY, as for him who shall appear before his Sustainer lost in sin - his [portion], behold, shall be hell: he will neither die therein nor live. (20:74)