reply to post by speculativeoptimist
Thank you for the education MMN!
Well, I am glad I posted information that you found of interest.
I will concur that much of the footage contains things that may be explained.
The problem is, the explanation is complex & even difficult at times, which some people find frustrating…..even irksome.
However, I can't buy the disc with a hole in the center and a small slit on it's edge as bokeh distortion
Perception is a funny thing. Subsequent to my reviews of the available info, to me, that’s the clearest example of the bokeh effect in the whole
and the op even called it obfuscation which can be defined as unintelligible which can be defined as impossible to understand.
Can you link to that comment so I can look at that again? (many thanks)
On the tether vid, why is everything moving in different directions, is this the way debris behaves in space?
There have been many examples of that type of movement posted, particularly post “flush” of liquids.
I noticed in your earlier post, breaking down the vid, there were several points where you said "don't know and hard to tell,"
Those are the parts I enjoy the most because…..
1. I get to find out what the “unknown” is & learn something
2. I get the thrill of there being an “unknown”!
so is there any room within you to acknowledge a true phenomena that is not lens effect, debris, crystals or droplets?
It would be a massive thrill for me to see something I did not feel I could explain in prosaic terms.
Or are you convinced that none of the space footage contains anything mysterious? I am just curious.
As I think about it, there is still one case that still makes me scratch my head a little…..the “giant red object” that was caught on film &
purportedly analysed in detail. There have been a few interesting threads about that on here.
Here is Easynow's thread about that:
As much as it disappoints me hugely, beyond that, I don’t believe I have seen something in any of the space footage videos that appears to be a UFO.
I have, however read some “wild” reports of astronaut interactions with aliens, but the sources for these reports are problematic.
Regarding the more well known US astronaut testimony, you will find huge “holes” in those stories if you read deeply & ensure the correct context
for their comments.
What do you think of the space worms/critters?
I think when you say “critters”, you refer to the mooted “plasma creatures” as per Zorgon, Exuberant1, etc… I have seen no evidence for
I think when you say “worms”, you are referring to 1 or 2 films I have reviewed that show either a strip of insulation or alternatively large,
unusually shaped pieces of ice that have been released from the shuttle external fuel tanks post jettison.
Well thanks for providing some perspective and I respect your position of investigating these for years.
You are very welcome…..I am glad I have been able to offer something of interest.
Personally, I can now discount much of the anomalies
It’s sort of a mixed blessing…..
On the one hand…..
It’s good to know the truth.
On the other hand…..
It’s disappointing not to have quite so many mysteries & unknowns around.
but I still believe there are some that remain a mystery and I choose to believe.
Good on you!
However I would not posture myself so certain as to argue with others, I'll just keep it to myself or discuss it objectively.
I for one appreciate your approach to this discussion.
I think what turns people off in the debates are any belittling or "know it all" attitude.
I am often accused of that…..including in this thread!
I can tell you are careful with your wording and I appreciate that.
Well, I do try to be careful…..but I guess I can have my moments!
And I can sense the frustration sometimes with members explaining stuff that has been covered so much for so long
Sometimes it drives me bonkers!!!
but many here are where you were years ago, curious and eager to know truth, that have to go through a process, which takes time in some case, to feel
they have a better understanding.
I know…..but I do sometimes get frustrated when people either deny the obvious facts on offer or choose not to research this topic at all.
Sometimes it seems better to just provide links and encourage a "judge for yourself" notion, and "here's my opinion on it."
I know I can lecture more than I perhaps should at times…..
No news to you, but using the "imo" as much as possible seems to keep the communication going and I feel people can learn better if they are
inclined to continue the walk into better understanding a subject through discussion.
That’s a good point…..however sometimes I like to “stand up & be counted” & make my opinion very clear so as to stimulate discussion &
Thanks again for your patience when it comes to redundancy, and for the record, I still believe, but with a healthier skepticism, I can better sort
out what I am seeing, and hopefully uncertainty/being undecided does not qualify for ignorance
Again…..I am extremely glad I could offer you something of interest!
[edit on 5-7-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]