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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by WolfofWar
I don't believe that really answered his question.
So you think I should feed the trolls? I mean I understand . It's completely obvious he has no life. i've been to bed I come back
he's still here. I think this thread has something important to offer.
Originally posted by randyvs
Atheists sure do seem to be far more insistant, that there is no God. Then
most Christians are that there is one. Gods word, The Bible, never fails.
It is indestructable. If you disagree with that, then explain how Isreal
became a nation again in just one day. After being scattered through out the nations for 2000 yrs. Exactly as the Bible, Gods word, predicted in Isaiah more than 2000 yrs ago.
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Obviously you still have no clue what atheism is even after going on and on about definitions. Neither of yours says anything about excluding worship. It is about deities. The Earth is right here, not a deity.
Originally posted by HSDA83
1) You can go to any country, any people, any tribe in the world. Even if they haven't heard a thing about religion or the name Jesus or whatever, they will be worshiping something.
It might be the sun, the water, the fire, animals, a football team, a band, career, etc.
There is in everybody a need to worship something higher.
Who put that in us?
Id DOES take faith to disbelief.
2) How will we relate evolution and entropy?
Entropy is a LAW that says everything tends to get worse. Decline, degeneration. (Not better like the evolution says)
But as if the atheist does not worship anything; including so called mother earth then no atheism is not a religion by definition, but is as stated faith based.
Originally posted by evil incarnate
reply to post by randyvs
Who would know better what the truth about Atheism is than a Christian, right?
Ever call your plumber about a tooth-ache?
Ok, but that could be a pretty tough asertation most of the time unless actually stated right?
So Randy, when you see people who you feel are apply faith to their disbelief in god, they are not atheist, they are anti-theists.
So start off with the truth that everyone knows ( There is only one truth) and check yourself, before you wreck yourself.
Originally posted by HSDA83
reply to post by randyvs
I see what you're saying.
"the harmony of natural law reveals an intelligence of such superiority that,
compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings
is an utterly insignificant reflection." - Einstein
"You find it strange that I consider the comprehensibility of the world (to the extent that we are authorized to speak of such a comprehensibility) as a miracle... Well, a priori one should expect a chaotic world, which cannot be grasped by the mind in any way . . . . The kind of order created by Newton's theory of gravitation, for example, is wholly different. Even if man proposes the axioms of the theory, the success of such a project presupposes a high degree of ordering of the objective world, and this could not be expected a priori. That is the "miracle" which is being constantly reinforced as our knowledge expands."
- Einsten
"Is man an unimportant bit of dust on an unimportant planet in an unimportant galaxy somewhere in the vastness of space? No! The necessity to produce life lies at the center of the universe's whole machinery and design.....Slight variations in physical laws such as gravity or electromagnetism would make life impossible."
- John Weeler - professor of physics at Princetown
"Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe that was created out of nothing and delicately balanced to provide exactly the conditions required to support life. In the absence of an absurdly improbable accident, the observations of modern science seem to suggest an underlying, one might say, supernatural plan"
- Physicist and Nobel laureate Arno Penzias
"The scientific community is prepared to consider the idea that God created the universe a more respectable hypothesis today than at any time in the last 100 years."
- Scientist Sir Fred Hoyle
I believe it takes time, but it's possible. Lately there's been great acceptance on the "Intelligent Designed universe", wich is a big step already.
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by HSDA83
What if a scientist, found absolute proof of God in his lab and he was a person of secular views? Do you believe he would toss the evidence and
forget he ever even performed that experiment? Or would he tell the world of his finding?