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posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 04:44 AM
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Excellent thread with some good quality writing. It is indeed truth that Dr. Kelly's death was in mysterious circumstances and the whole thing doesn't add up. However, short of miracle nothing will come off the effort of these doctors. Don't you see people just don't care anymore, just look at how many people bothered to even reply in your thread. Hundreds or thousands of Dr. Kelly's have died and will continue to die and everything will keep on happening the way it is.




posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 04:44 AM
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Yep they killed him, it's amazing that people actually believe our intelligence services don't perform wet work.

Still i don't see the point of bringing this up now, it is doubtful they will ever do a new inquiry and even if they did it would be a sham. The individuals involved would never be brought to justice because there won't be a paper trail anywhere.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 04:58 AM
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And to think Tony Blair is getting a junked up peace price from the USA along with $100k.

if they can take out JFK fake 9/11 and a 50/50 chance they killed princess Di then these people not only act above the law but they are the law.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by LieBuster
And to think Tony Blair is getting a junked up peace price from the USA along with $100k.

if they can take out JFK fake 9/11 and a 50/50 chance they killed princess Di then these people not only act above the law but they are the law.


Not 50/50. More like certainty, in view of a little-known, explosive entry in a French internet intelligence archive about politicians and celebrities that names the killer of James Andanson, the notorious paparazzo who owned the white Fiat Uno
img.dailymail.co.uk...
seen coming out of the Alma tunnel in Paris a few seconds after Princess Diana's car crashed. Many of his friends strongly suspect that Andanson worked freelance for the French and British intelligence agencies. He took photos of Diana at her invitation on Dodi's yacht a few days before they were killed. Christophe Pelat,
www.whale.to...
a French fireman who arrived on the scene of Andanson's burnt-out car, claimed that he saw TWO bullet holes in Andanson's head:
www.express.co.uk...:-Fiat-driver-%27shot-in-the-head%27
which proved the police were wrong in their conclusion that he had committed suicide. The archive at
www.investigateur.info...
refers to Andanson being assassinated by a Yugoslav intelligence agent code-named "T"
"Selon le rapport confidentiel d¹une sorte de ³groupe d¹études², constitué, après la mort d¹Andanson, par des amis que le photographe avait su se faire dans une société anglo-saxonne d¹investigation et de sécurité proche des services britanniques, le photographe a été assassiné par un homme de main d¹origine yougoslave, T...,évoluant habituellement sous le pseudonyme d¹une grande famille de la noblesse française, connu aussi de la chanteuse Amanda Lear."

"T" worked on the "Safra file". This refers to the murder in 1999 of Edmond Safra, the founder of the Republic National Bank in New York, for which an American Green Beret, Ted Maher, was convicted. The passages in this archive clearly indicate that "T" was an agent of an unspecified intelligence agency. So here is proof that Andanson was silenced because he could have bragged publicly (as he was in fact doing in private, according to his wife) about his involvement in the death of Princess Diana. It indicates that Diana was, indeed, murdered.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 05:40 AM
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This stuff is fascinating. A clear conspiracy in plain sight. Hats off to the OP for such a detailed post.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 06:23 AM
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truly sad case, here is song recorded by Thom Yorke
it shows his disgust of the cover up and the consecuencias
Dr David Kelly took.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 06:59 AM
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Have you got blood on your hands, Prime Minister?

A conversation was overheard by a BBC reporter between Tony Blair and his press secretary Alistair Campbell on his far-east tour plane following Kelly's death. The conversation was heard following the press conference when Blair was asked if he had Dr Kelly's blood on his hands and Blair froze and didn't answer.

Campbell, a notorious ranter was heard to say: "What the f-k was that, you know the line on this, what were you doing, why didn't you answer." Blair's response was inaudible and Campbell was then heard to say: "This is what you wanted, you asked for this so play the game Tony." Since then Blair continually trotted out the line about waiting for the Inquiry before commenting.

"You asked for this." Asked for what? Kelly's death?



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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Excellent post here. I think it matters not how many respond to this, the important thing is not to let the criminality of the UK's previous government be forgotten. I for one will never be satisfied that we have come back through the looking glass until I see some of the individuals involved in the appalling acts they are responsible for in a court of law.

Tony Blair said 'the blood price is worth it' prior to the invasion of Iraq....obviously it was never going to be his blood paying the price.

On June 15th 2002 in Glasgow I particpated in a meeting for the Earth Charter. It was at that meeting that a chap who had been involved with the CND campaign for many decades asked us to sign a pledge card to undertake acts of civil disobedience in the event that the US and the UK invaded Iraq. All of our jaws dropped. There had been no hint of any such plans in the mainstream media. He was able to tell us the invasion would take place the following March due to a 'weather window'. In addition Tony Blair was to be in Glasgow to attend the Scottish labour party conference the following February.....it was determined that his visit would be the best date to organise a protest against the invasion plans.

There was no more than ten people present. The march, as we know, became international, and one of the biggest protests the world has ever seen.

Following that June meeting there was still no noise being made by mainstream media. Not until the September of 2002 did we start to get any hint at what was coming. Tony Blair initially attempted to claim that he had no knowledge of the invasion plans until the December of 2002 which he later altered to the September. This is patently untrue....and my pledge card signed in June 2002 is proof of this. How could little old insignificant me know about this while our prime minister remain in a state of blissful ignorance?

The weapons of mass destruction was a huge lie...now proved beyond doubt to be such. Remember the 'oil for food programme'? The restrictions placed on Iraqi imports for ten years? Did you realise that Iraq was unable to even import paper due to its potential dual purpose? i.e. it could be to circulate propaganda. Remember the 100 plane sortie under Clinton which bombed suspected weapons plants?

In addition shortly after the first conflict with Iraq in 1991 I was working in Glasgow as a barber. One of my co-workers was an Iraqi. He was training to be nuclear physicist, paid for by the Iraqi regime, happily received by ours and working as a barber for the extra cash to keep his family (he was very good....but sadly he too is now dead).

Remember Hans Blix...'no smoking gun'? Remember the student's thesis which was claimed to be 'intelligence documents'? Remember the 45 mins capability that Tony Blair claimed was all Iraq required to put into use weapons of mass destruction? Remember Tony Blair's later admission that this claim in fact related to rifles on a battlefield? Remember remember, please remember.

A reporter on BBC transmits one story once about a 'sexed up dossier' losing his job along with the Director General of the BBC, Greg Dyke. They have long since been vindicated. The BBC meantime became the poodle of the UK government - conspiring to terrorise us all.

I believe, looking at footage of Tony Blair during the build up period to the war, that the man was in fact psychotic. His pupils were contracted, his weight loss evident, his ideas of his own importance in the world delusional (remember he reckoned he had fixed Britain and was going to turn his attention to fixing Africa. What a guy!)...oh and he had an operation for arythmia on his heart...another possible symptom.

Yes I believe Dr. Kelly was murdered but why I really cannot comprehend. At the time there was so much more information available to discount teh claims being made by the US and UK governments. All of which have long since transpired to be true.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 11:06 AM
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Dr Kelly - the BBC's source for a report claiming the government altered the contents of a dossier about Iraq - had probably been wearing a 24-hour electro-cardiogram recorder, also known as a Holter monitor, medical experts said.

But it was odd that the pads that are connected to the device had not been removed by doctors and were left attached to his chest, they said.

"If I was in a morgue and his body was presented to me I would have thought it had come out of a coronary care unit or an operating theatre," said Professor Konrad Jamrozik, of Imperial College Hospital London.

"It would be unusual for someone to be walking around wearing these pads," he told the press association.

Another heart specialist, who declined to be named, also said it was "very unusual" for someone to be found wearing the pads. - www.guardian.co.uk...


Some believe these electrodes where placed on Dr David Kelly to make sure he had died and that the perpetrators had been disturbed by someone/something and fled before having the opportunity to remove them from his chest.

Some doctors say it is 'very unusual' that he was wearing these electrodes outside of a hospital setting. Other seem to disagree.

One thing is for sure - it is yet another enigma to add to the numerous others that surround this case.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by christina-66
Yes I believe Dr. Kelly was murdered but why I really cannot comprehend. At the time there was so much more information available to discount teh claims being made by the US and UK governments. All of which have long since transpired to be true.



Kelly had become a loose cannon dangerous to the British military/intelligence establishment and who had written a book about his work. He had talked of moving to the USA, where he might have broken the Official Secrets Act by revealing secrets highly embarrassing to the British government.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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The plot thickens. I'm totally captured by this story, it's the first time I have really feared my own government (Even it was the last regime) in this way. We pretty much have the "why" but who do you guys think carried it out? Mi5? SAS? Private security firm?

[edit on 4/7/10 by MegatronX]



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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also i remember reading in the paper about when he went out for his 'walk' he went out to walk the dog at the same time of day that he usually does.

There fore it would be easy to know where he would be and at what time (obviously that's not exactly a huge thing as any surveillance would have found him just as easily).

However if you were planning on going and killing yourself, it would be at a time when you couldn't take the pressure and decided enough was enough. Not during a normal daily routine... ie. taking the dog with you.

It's like saying if I decided i was going to kill myself, I'd first get in the car and go out to the supermarket to start the shopping, then do it in the middle of the cereal isle


Don't think so! Obviously if you want to cover up information of a cover-up, in this case the sexed-up documents, it makes sense to take out the most prominent person who knows the exact details of what the lies were, and especially as he originally was against the case of going to war (until the dossier supposedly was read).

Most people I know in the UK believe he was murdered because he was essentially forced to agree to the leis in the document, knowing fine well it was all lies. Having had the story of the 'sexed-up' document break, the government needed to try and stop the information about it coming out further, so they could claim deniability about where this info came from.

Not surprising in any way, but still completely wrong in every way! That's governments for you though.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by MegatronX
We pretty much have the "why" but who do you guys think carried it out? Mi5? SAS? Private security firm?

[edit on 4/7/10 by MegatronX]

According to barrister Michael Shrimpton, who is a national security lawyer for the British government with impeccable credentials:
en.wikipedia.org...:Michael_Shrimpton
"The tasking was generated in the UK, went to Paris, was then OK’d in Paris, and on the information available to me, the operational agency for the assassination was DGSE. Now there are also indications, and I’m again, obviously Alex you appreciate I’m expressing myself with caution here, there are indications that DGSE, in order to false-flag the assassination, should their team be discovered, used Iraqi intelligence assets from the Iraqi Mukhabarat agency that were available in Damascus after the fall of Baghdad. And I have one source suggesting that an Iraqi team, that’s to say an ex-Mukhabarat team, recruited in Damascus with the assistance of the Syrian intelligence operation, also the Mukhabarat, were flown into Corsica in the seven days prior to the assassination of David Kelly. Now the standard French practice when they carry out assassinations is to take their own team out. I am very doubtful that any of the people involved directly in the assassination of David Kelly are still alive. It would be highly unusual for the French to permit anyone involved in the assassination for them to survive."
seanbryson.com...



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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Former trauma and orthopaedic surgeon, David Halpin talks about the Kelly case and associated media cover-up.

(From half way through Pt 3 to Pt 4, "Zionism, David Kelly and the BBC")






Pt 1
Pt 2
Pt 3
Pt 4
Pt 5



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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Another great thread LiverForever, I think it is obviously blatant that the government killed Kelly because he a) knew too much and b) was too hard to silence (without killing him).



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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Kelly had become a loose cannon dangerous to the British military/intelligence establishment and who had written a book about his work. He had talked of moving to the USA, where he might have broken the Official Secrets Act by revealing secrets highly embarrassing to the British government.

I could quite believe this theory. My point is that there were/are many other sources able to discredit our government's actions. Robin Cook for example, following his resignation became a columnist in The Independant. I question his death also. Our intelligence services were horrified at the abuse and rewriting of their intelligence and became rather vocal on the matter. As can be read in this article. The Telegraph

Tony Blair, in the build up to the war, behaved like an autocrat, not the leader of cabinet governement. Dr. Kelly's death is extremely suspicious - however I think the embarrassment was not the government's as a whole but Tony Blair and his own cabal.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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More on Robin Cook please.

This is only my personal belief and very probably wild and irrational speculation, but I think there may be good grounds that John Smith was murdered.

I know that sounds loopy, but I think it was part of a long-term plan to bring our country towards a one-party system.



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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Regarding Robin Cook....

There were rumours that Robin Cook was, like Dr David Kelly, divulging confidential information - meaning his death would have come as a welcomed relief to the MOD and the government.

He was also well known for his criticism of the Iraq invasion and was the first person to explain the true meaning of the term 'Al-Qaida':


On the day after the July 7th, 2005 bombings on London transport, former foreign secretary Robin Cook MP wrote what turned out to be his penultimate newspaper column for the Guardian. In it he revealed something about al-Qaeda that perhaps he shouldn't have.

Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west.

As far as I know, this was the first time publicly, in the anglophone world, that the al-Qaeda name had been explained as referring to a computer database. - shaphan.typepad.com...


Some commentators and senior politicians said that Cook seemed destined for a senior Cabinet post under a Brown premiership.

Lingering questions about Robin Cooks death



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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one thing i did expect to happen in the war
with Iraq was for TPTB to at least "plant" there
WMD for a massive "told ya so"media show frenzy.
But not the case.


what is your take on the medical stick on
monitors attached to Kelly's body?
They were found on him before the
medical team got to see the body weren't they?



posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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EXCELLENT stuff, Kelly's murder was a blatant operation of TPTB.. they're laughing at us, saying "look how farcical we can make things seem - haha!! headache pills!! hahaha!! a crappy little penknife!! yeah right!! - but still we will get away with it - and if you try to oppose us, we'll do the same to you!"

well that's what it sounded like. look at the evidence in kelly's death - what the f# is going on???

GRR!! angry now!!

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