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The Murder of Dr David Kelly

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posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 11:04 AM
Dr David Kelly, British microbiologist and biological weapons expert, was found dead in woods near his Oxfordshire home on July 18th 2003. His death marked the pinnacle of a spectacular row over the British governments justification for a war on Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. Officially, Kelly killed himself. However, many people think the man who blew the whistle on the case for war just wasn’t the kind to commit suicide.

In late May journalist Andrew Gilligan told BBC Radio’s Today show that a high ranking Ministry of Defence source had informed him that the government had ‘sexed-up’ the September dossier that claimed Iraq have and are willing to use Weapons of Mass Destruction. Angered by this leak, the government insisted that the BBC should reveal the source of these claims and on July 8th they themselves claimed to have discovered who the leak was.

In a controversial move the MOD named Kelly as the source to the press – by letting the members of press read out a list of names, Kelly’s name was the only one the MOD spokesperson didn’t respond to with an answer of ‘no’ (as in ‘no, he/she wasn’t the source’). As a result of this Kelly was interrogated by the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee and by numerous Intelligence Agencies.

The next day Kelly left his Oxfordshire home and set out on his daily evening walk. His body was found a day later.

The official autopsy report stated that Kelly was found with his left wrist slashed and he had also taken a large quantity of Coproxamol painkillers. The obvious verdict was suicide. This verdict was set in stone after the Hutton Inquiry (presided over by senior judge Lord Hutton) agreed with the official circumstances surrounding Kelly’s death – stating that this deeply private man couldn’t handle the exposure to the MSM and the possible damage it was doing to his career/reputation.

However, this is far from an open and shut case. Let’s look at why...
The body.

Louise Holmes and Paul Chapman, the two volunteers who found Kelly’s body, stated that it was propped up against a tree when they discovered it. On their way to report the gruesome find they met three plain clothes police detectives who told them to head straight to the nearest Police station. The three detectives carried on towards the scene of Kelly’s death.

Witnesses later placed the body lying flat on its back away from the tree. Later tests proved that Kelly had died on his back - so how did he come to be propped up against a tree? And who had moved it back to a lying position?

Significantly, it emerged via a Freedom of Information request in 2008 that a police helicopter with heat-seeking equipment which searched for Dr Kelly on the night he disappeared did not detect his body.

At 2.50am on July 18, 2003, the helicopter flew over the exact spot where Dr Kelly’s body was found by a search party less than six hours later, at 8.30am.

Yet the pathologist who took Dr Kelly’s body temperature at 7pm on the day his body was found determined that Dr Kelly could still have been alive at 1.15am on July 18 — just 95 minutes before the helicopter flew over the patch of woodland.

Why didn’t the helicopter pick it up? Was it because Dr Kelly did not die where his body was found?

Not only that but there was a distinct lack of blood at the scene (nowhere near the five pints predicted that a fatal haemorrhage) and Kelly’s body was covered in scratched and bruises – evident signs of a struggle. There were no signs of struggle at the scene.

Near the top of all British death certificates is a box headed ‘Date and place of death’, in which a doctor or coroner should declare the exact location of a death, if it has been established.

Dr Kelly’s certificate gives his date of death as July 18, 2003. It then states in reference to place of death: ‘Found dead at Harrowdown Hill, Longworth, Oxon’.

Why was the word ‘found’ used? Why was the crucial question of ‘place of death’ not answered? The death certificate should be precise about the time, cause and location of death.

The doctors who have investigated the case believe the failure to answer this question leaves open the possibility that Dr Kelly died somewhere other than Harrowdown Hill, the wood where his body was discovered. If this was the case, they are concerned the law may have been subverted over Dr Kelly’s death.

These same doctors also raise suspicions about the ‘fatal’ wound that Kelly supposedly inflicted upon himself. Somehow Kelly had managed to perform the dexterous feat of slashing his ulnar artery, not the radial one, and still bleed to death.

13 Doctors demand inquest into Dr David Kelly's death

Doctors from all areas of medicine – anaesthetists, trauma specialists, radiologists, vascular surgeons, pathologists and public health consultants – all agreed that the stated primary cause of Kelly’s death was “highly improbable”. The idea was “against classical medical teaching”.

As for the Coproxamol overdose – the official report could not confirm whether Kelly had taken 29 Coproxamol tablets (as was stated) and the toxicologist who measured Kelly’s Coproxamol level said it was just a third of what was usually considered fatal.

Also: Dr Kelly "couldn't have slit his own wrist as he was too weak."

The Hutton Inquiry

We have already seen what Lord Huttons verdict was – suicicde. However, this was not the verdict of an official inquest. The Hutton Inquiry wasn’t even given the remit to investigate Kelly’s death as such, only the actions of the government and the BBC that preceded it.

Oxfordshire Coroner Nicholas Gardiner opened an inquest on July 21. But on August 13 the then Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer, Tony Blair’s former flatmate, ordered it to be adjourned indefinitely.

Falconer used an obscure law to suspend proceedings, and for the first time in English legal history he replaced an inquest with a non-statutory public inquiry to examine a single death, seemingly without any public explanation.

This was only the fourth time such an inquiry had occurred – in all the other instances the case in question had involved numerous victims – not just a single victim. Because of this the public were led to believe that the investigation would be conducted more meticulously and so the findings would be far more accurate. This was not the case at all.

He (Hutton) could not hear evidence under oath; he could not subpoena witnesses; he could not call a jury; and he could not aggressively cross-examine witnesses.

Even more ridiculous is the fact that, three weeks into the Hutton Inquiry, Dr Kelly’s death certificate was mysteriously completed and the cause of his death officially registered as haemorrhage.

Put another way, five weeks before the Hutton Inquiry ended on September 24, 2003, and while the judge was still taking evidence about Dr Kelly’s death from witnesses, the official record of the cause of death was written and the case effectively closed.

The Hutton Inquiry was set up, not to investigate but to cover up the numerous discrepancies that were evident. Amazingly, Chief Inspector (now Superintendent) Alan Young of Thames Valley Police, who headed the investigation into Dr Kelly’s death, did not even give evidence to the Hutton Inquiry. And of the three hundred witness statements concerning Kelly’s death, only 70 were submitted to the Hutton Inquiry.

The number 70 has even more significance in light of new evidence:

In January this year, it emerged that unpublished medical and scientific records relating to Dr Kelly’s death - including the post-mortem report and photographs of his body - had been secretly classified so as not to be made public for 70 years.

Lord Hutton, who had been appointed by Blair, was responsible for this extraordinary gagging order, yet its legal basis has baffled experts accustomed to such matters.

What have they got to hide?

And don’t expect to see this classification overturned anytime soon – as Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker found when he tried to use the Freedom of Information to apply to see the records – thanks to section 41 of the act known as an ‘absolute exemption’ there is no chance of them being made available. It wouldn’t surprise me if they go ‘missing’ at some point in those 70 years.

The Masons - "Many dark actors playing games"

‘The Masons?’ I hear you ask. Well yes, there is another theory coming straight out of left field that implicates the Masons and those members of possible secret societies at Oxford....

So, did Dr David Kelly stumble across some sort of Masonic ritual and pay the ultimate price? Had some of Oxfords movers and shakers been exposed as devil worshippers? Did Kelly himself become some sort of ritualistic sacrifice?

It’s a theory that I’m sure will interest some but not one that I can take seriously. There was enough reason for Kelly to be murdered without implicating the Masons and other occult ideas. I decided to include it because I had never heard of it before - some might say for good reason, but it does no harm to look into it.

No matter what your personal beliefs are concerning the whos, whys and hows – I hope that one thing has been made evident – the official verdict is highly questionable.

What you must now ask yourself is could a modern day government kill someone like Kelly so audaciously in the midst of a media maelstrom?

Perhaps only a government also audacious enough to base its public case for going to war on shamelessly inadequate intelligence.

I leave you with the comment supposedly made by Kelly himself in February 2003...

“If Iraq is attacked, then I might be found in the woods”

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 11:04 AM

Main Source - Primary Article - All extracts are from this source.

The Hutton Inquiry
The Hutton Inquiry - Website - Doctors say government scientist David Kelly was Murdered
The Rough Guide To Conspiracy Theories - James McConnachie & Robin Tudge
[url=" target="_blank" class="postlink">Norman Baker - Article 1
Norman Baker - Article 2
Michael Shrimpton - 'Kelly was Murdered'

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mod edit, attempt to fix link

[edit on Sat Jul 3 2010 by DontTreadOnMe]

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 11:13 AM
Many who have studied Kelly's death, including people who talked to him close to his death, now believe that he was killed because he had written a book about his work as a UN weapons inspector and was thinking of moving to the USA where he would be free to talk about the lies of the British government leading up to the Iraq war. .html
Before his body was found, three men in black suits from MI5's Technical Assessment Unit removed his computer containing all his book files.

[edit on 3-7-2010 by micpsi]

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 12:20 PM
I noticed a few days ago you said were putting together a thread about Dr Kelly's very mysterious end. Nice one for doing it so quickly.
I too have been keeping up with this and very interseted to see what you have presented. Cant go through everything yet but soon as I can I will.
Thanks LiveForever, should be some intersting reading.

[edit on 3/7/2010 by LestatG]

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 01:51 PM
reply to post by micpsi

Thanks for the link

A new film, Anthrax War, to be released in London this weekend, also asserts that Dr Kelly had spent hours writing a tell-all book which would violate the Official Secrets Act by exposing Britain's dubious authority for toppling Saddam Hussein.

The film, directed by New York-based documentary maker Bob Coen, states that Dr Kelly, head of biological defence at the Government's secretive military research establishment of Porton Down, Wiltshire, was the brain behind much of the West's germ warfare programmes. Quite simply, the film says, Dr Kelly 'knew too much'.

In further unsubstantiated and hard-to-believe claims, the film alleges he may have been embroiled in apartheid South Africa's Project Coast programme to develop an ethnic germ weapon programme to target the black population.

Coen also says Dr Kelly had links to illegal human experiments on British servicemen at Porton Down, which sparked the largest ever investigation by Wiltshire Police.

Whatever the veracity of all this, the film's central thrust - that he was writing a sensational book - has been confirmed by Gordon Thomas, a British intelligence expert, who had met Dr Kelly.

Thomas told me: 'I visited Dr Kelly as part of research into a book I was writing. But he told me that he was writing his own book, which intended to show that Tony Blair had lied about his reasons for going to war with Iraq.

He had told the Prime Minister categorically that there were no weapons of mass destruction.'
- death.html

I'm watching the documentary now. If these allegations are true (they do seem rather sensationalist) then it could explain perfectly why Kelly was murdered - as the article states - he simply knew too much.

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:25 PM
Thankyou very much for writing and presenting this so well.

Honestly, who'd have thought our government would be corrupt, murdering bastards...

There's little more I can add other than to attempt to emphasise the importance of this quite large piece of a jigsaw that is still unfolding and affecting the world.

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:45 PM
Paramedics who arrived on the scene of Dr Kelly's body were adamant that there was little blood spilled.

Conclusion: he did not die from loss of blood. The assassins made the error of
1. cutting his left wrist AFTER his heart had stopped, explaining the small amount of blood.
2. cutting his ulnar artery, which doctors state could not caused death by blood loss.
3. Not making sure Kelly's fingerprints were on his knife (they assumed fingerprints were already there).
4. leaving several packets of Coproxomol around his body, whereas only a fifth of one tablet of the painkiller was found in his body.
(and no doubt other faux pas).

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:36 PM
reply to post by LiveForever8


The death of microbiologists is real interesting. The more one researches the stranger this gets........this article reports on only 11. There are hundreds, yes hundreds of the world top microbiologists that have turned up dead in the past decade.

Read my location.

You either play with the big boys - or end up dead.

Strange Cluster Of Microbiologists'
Deaths Under The Microscope
By Alanna Mitchell, Simon Cooper, and Carolyn Abraham
Compiled by Alanna Mitchell
The Globe and Mail

It's a tale only the best conspiracy theorist could dream up.

Eleven microbiologists mysteriously dead over the span of just five months. Some of them world leaders in developing weapons-grade biological plagues. Others the best in figuring out how to stop millions from dying because of biological weapons. Still others, experts in the theory of bioterrorism.

Throw in a few Russian defectors, a few nervy U.S. biotech companies, a deranged assassin or two, a bit of Elvis, a couple of Satanists, a subtle hint of espionage, a big whack of imagination, and the plot is complete, if a bit reminiscent of James Bond.

The first three died in the space of just over a week in November. Benito Que, 52, was an expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School. Police originally suspected that he had been beaten on Nov. 12 in a carjacking in the medical school's parking lot. Strangely enough, though, his body showed no signs of a beating. Doctors then began to suspect a stroke.

Just four days after Dr. Que fell unconscious came the mysterious disappearance of Don Wiley, 57, one of the foremost microbiologists in the United States. Dr. Wiley, of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Harvard University, was an expert on how the immune system responds to viral attacks such as the classic doomsday plagues of HIV, ebola and influenza.

He had just bought tickets to take his son to Graceland the following day. Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis, Tenn. His body was later found in the Mississippi River. Forensic experts said he may have had a dizzy spell and have fallen off the bridge.

Just five days after that, the world-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector Valdimir Pasechnik, 64, fell dead. The pathologist who did the autopsy, and who also happened to be associated with Britain's spy agency, concluded he died of a stroke.

Dr. Pasechnik, who defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, played a huge role in Russian biowarfare and helped to figure out how to modify cruise missiles to deliver the agents of mass biological destruction.

The next two deaths came four days apart in December. Robert Schwartz, 57, was stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.

Dr. Schwartz was an expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, who worked at the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon, Va.

Four days later, Nguyen Van Set, 44, died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen. Other scientists at the animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox.

Then in February, the Russian microbiologist Victor Korshunov, 56, an expert in intestinal bacteria of children around the world, was bashed over the head near his home in Moscow. Five days later the British microbiologist Ian Langford, 40, was found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair. He was an expert in environmental risks and disease.

Two weeks later, two prominent microbiologists died in San Francisco. Tanya Holzmayer, 46, a Russian who moved to the U.S. in 1989, focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine.

She was killed by fellow microbiologist Guyang (Matthew) Huang, 38, who shot her seven times when she opened the door to a pizza delivery. Then he shot himself.

The final two deaths came one day after the other in March. David Wynn-Williams, 55, a respected astrobiologist with the British Antarctic Survey, who studied the habits of microbes that might survive in outer space, died in a freak road accident near his home in Cambridge, England. He was hit by a car while he was jogging.

The following day, Steven Mostow, 63, known as Dr. Flu for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism, died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.

So what does any of it mean?

"Statistically, what are the chances?" wondered a prominent North American microbiologist reached last night at an international meeting of infectious-disease specialists in Chicago.

Janet Shoemaker, director of public and scientific affairs of the American Society for Microbiology in Washington, D.C., pointed out yesterday that there are about 20,000 academic researchers in microbiology in the U.S. Still, not all of these are of the elevated calibre of those recently deceased.

She had a chilling, final thought. When microbiologists die in a lab, there's a way of taking note of the deaths and adding them up. When they die in freakish accidents outside the lab, nobody keeps track.

Suspicious deaths

The sudden and suspicious deaths of 11 of the world's leading microbiologists.

Who they were:

1. Nov. 12, 2001:

Benito Que was said to have been beaten in a Miami parking lot and died later.

2. Nov. 16, 2001:

Don C. Wiley went missing. Was found Dec. 20. Investigators said he got dizzy on a Memphis bridge and fell to his death in a river.

3. Nov. 21, 2001:

Vladimir Pasechnik, former high-level Russian microbiologist who defected in 1989 to the U.K. apparently died from a stroke.

4. Dec. 10, 2001:

Robert M. Schwartz was stabbed to death in Leesberg, Va. Three Satanists have been arrested.

5. Dec. 14, 2001:

Nguyen Van Set died in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia.

6. Feb. 9, 2002:

Victor Korshunov had his head bashed in near his home in Moscow.

7. Feb. 14, 2002:

Ian Langford was found partially naked and wedged under a chair in Norwich, England.

8. 9. Feb. 28, 2002:

San Francisco resident Tanya Holzmayer was killed by a microbiologist colleague, Guyang Huang, who shot her as she took delivery of a pizza and then apparently shot himself.

10. March 24, 2002:

David Wynn-Williams died in a road accident near his home in Cambridge, England.

11. March 25, 2002:

Steven Mostow of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre, killed in a plane he was flying near Denver. [/EX]

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posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:46 PM
Excellent work! Shame there isn't as much evidence on the Robin Cook assassination

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:54 PM
good thread s+f'd

good to see this get brought back up before 'we' forget about it, an absolute outrage that the results of his post-mordem are being kept quiet for the rest of our lifetimes, so that by the time we find out what REALLY happened, noone will remember/care!

[edit on 3-7-2010 by Xadaz]

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 04:25 PM
reply to post by micpsi

Sounds about right......................they play dirty.

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 04:27 PM
reply to post by LiveForever8

EVERYONE should download this video before "TPTB" remove it.

Powerful stuff - the truth.

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 04:33 PM
I don't think many of US, are suprised that "our" governments, routinly murder it's own Citizens, wheever they become "inconvenient".
Given the number of microbiologists that have "committed suicide" (official findings) in the last decade, I'm VERY glad, that I did NOT pursue that profession, despite having a degree in it!

(No, I ended-up doing things that are MUCH more likely to get me wacked!) A Canadian "collegue" of mine, was murdered about a decade ago, as he was locking-up his office for the night. He was finishing-up his life's work- the "Supergun"- a gas-sequential-propelled artillery piece, capable of putting a 1/2 ton projectile, into sub-orbit- i.e.- hitting a target, on the opposite side of the planet, no missile needed! (It is generally believed, that MOSSAD agents, assinated him- multiple .22LR shots, in back of head). Well, I guess we'll all die, from something. I'd just prefer to see it coming!

Oh- I think that the total, is about 200+, so far. A VERY dangerous occupation, apparently!

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posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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The above were the two brilliant students studying in
the field of DNA/GENETICS
Though not linked
I always thought that was suspicious.

As for DR David Kelly im convinced that was murder.
and all those other specialists who died/were killed on those
Dates, well that is just bizarre!
S & F

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 04:49 PM
Great Thread Live Forever. Thanks for posting this. It's one of those cases i've seen little bits and pieces here and there, but never known much of the story.

Thanks for putting all the story in one place!

post-mortem report and photographs of his body - had been secretly classified so as not to be made public for 70 years

This quote alone says it all for me. If there were any suspicion at all, and no-one had anything to hide, then why make things unavailable for 70yrs??? All this says to me is that it was an inside job because the government were scared of the implications of his comments regarding the Iraq involvement.

Bloody Governments.


posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 05:26 PM
Hmmm, so let's regurgitate an event long enough after it happened to cloud peoples memories.

He committed suicide for one very simple reason: He broke the official secrets act and as such would lose everything including, at his age, his substantial government pension. This would leave his family in dire straits. So he committed suicide BEFORE he lost everything.

All conspiratorial facts are embedded , as said before, in peoples poor recollections and incompletely examined circumstances.

NO CONSPIRACY just plain old ordinary human is the case 99.9% of the time on ATS and real life.

posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 06:46 PM
reply to post by malcr

Can you back up what you stated? What I found regarding this subject was this:

Dr Kelly's Pension

It has been reported that Dr Kelly feared that discipinary action might lead to his losing civil service pension. Such a fear was almost certainly totally unwarranted. I know of no law or disciplinary provision which could lead to the loss of accrued pension rights, and I have never heard of any public servant losing their pension, even on dismissal for a serious offence.

I also saw someone from the MOD/Government state in an interview that the idea of Dr David Kelly losing his pension and being fired was inaccurate as he was far too valuable an asset. I'll try and find it if I can.

It seems highly unlikely that Dr Kelly was deliberately seeking to undermine Ministers when he was briefing journalists. Indeed, Lord Hutton concluded that Dr Kelly had not intended to discuss intelligence matters. It seems more likely that, as claimed by Susan Watts, he was merely gossiping, during or following briefings which he regarded as authorised. And he did not initially realise the gravity of the situation in which he found himself. -

So it seems that Lord Hutton himself stated that what David Kelly had done wasn't intentional and was most likely accidental.

Kelly himself wasn't taking the case against him too seriously as he noted in an e-mail to a friend - "Hopefully it will soon pass ... and I can get to Baghdad and get on with the real work."

I believe it to be a weak argument that the 'suicide' was because he feared losing his pension/job.

posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 12:53 AM
reply to post by malcr

He never killed himself. Losing one's pension is unfortunate, but he was a very ethical person and quite intelligent enough to have figured out the ramifications of his statements well before he made them. What he hadn't figured was that it was *that* important to our world leaders that they have their nefarious way in Iraq and no bout of conscience from a mere cog was going to thwart their plans.

Besides, what he was doing was true to his faith. That is their goal specifically. He would hardly have just jumped off the effort like that to meet his maker, task unfinished. That's not even rational.

You seem to be looking at the behavior of others through the glasses of your own soul. Human behavior is not that limited. Open your eyes a little wider, please.

posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 04:34 AM
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I was waiting for the debunker to show up on this thread and it seems you have. The evidence surrounding Kelley's death in support of suicide is very weak, and you're unfortunate in being the point person to try and discredit the thread. My sympathies to you on this. but the last post on the weakness of the argument against Kelley doing this to protect his pension more or less says it all; you are reading this through "glasses on you own soul" - I believe at best. People do act in conscience and all that is deemed "rational" by those who do not understand an act of conscience cannot explain those acts if they lack one one of their own.

Besides, I don't know how British Law works, or should I say how insurance companies act under British law, but if Kelley had life insurance, and I don't know that he did -admittedly, he would forfeited that by taking his own life. I'm wandering off track here by trying to respond to what purports to be a "logical" argument when I believe logic and illogic are irrelevant here. Kelley's most important mission in life was not over, therefore he would not have ended his life prematurely.

I don't believe I'm talking to someone who is the slightest bit interested in knowing what lies at the bottom of this, so I'll cut here by saying your logic can't stand the slightest push before it crumbles into ruins.

posted on Jul, 4 2010 @ 04:42 AM
reply to post by LiveForever8

This is a great thread on an important subject which I hope won't drown in the Gulf Waters where I've been spending most of time lately!

It deserves better !!
Before the Gulf Disaster, I was doing quite a bit of research on biowarfare research and hope not to lose sight of now that other issues have grabbed the front page, but I very much enjoyed taking a break to see what you're posting on this. Keep it up and I'll be back on the track pretty soon!

Ps. I still can't figure how to give stars and flags, but you richly deserve it for your work here.

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