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The # 23?

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posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 05:37 PM
Magestica as i said that is just my opinion,i have no proof it isn't and no proof it is..Their has been nothing to show me that their is a real connection but i shall stay openminded..

posted on Oct, 5 2003 @ 11:53 AM
is a link with different things that relate to the number 23

posted on Oct, 5 2003 @ 12:31 PM
majestica, heres a numbers/illuminati kinda thing...

& Rupert Murdoch is a big gorilla in the illuminati/nwo cult

come on now... dec 23rd 2012 is only when the earth & sun cross the 'equator' of the galactic plane....
the end of Mayan time cycle=not end of world...
**which makes # 23 a GOOD THING!

stalag 13
car 54
adam 12
butterfield 8
76 trombones
beachwood 45789
wd 40
(there's gotta be a 23, somewheres !).....

...'fraid i can't assist you there magestica...
but maybe you'll get 23 posts on this thread...

posted on Oct, 5 2003 @ 12:37 PM

Originally posted by TheWanderer

It's just the way of civilization, when we become "urban dwellers" people become immoral, they enslave themselves through ignorance.

BB: always the same bloodlines are doing the enslaving.

It happend to Athens, 2500 years ago, it happend to Rome, 1500 years ago, it's happening today.

BB: this supports the idea of unknown controllers.

There doesn't need to be an "illuminati" to cause it.

BB: research shows there is.

It's also likely that someone IS putting it all around....but if someone is, it is NOT the Illuminati.

BB: are you omnicient?

I don't care if it is some Care Bear Cult, the Illuminati do NOT exist, that's a fact, there's no other evidence lol....the front could very well be the "Illuminati".

BB: are you omnicient?

While you're all looking for trinangles and weird numbers, the Care Bear Cult is getting closer to World Domination.

BB: why are these not two names for the same thing. kinda like cavalier and sunbird. or corolla and malibu.

You know honestly, it's become to the point where Illuminati isn't a "group" anymore.

BB: i thought they didn't exist? now there just not a group anymore?

They are a "name" for those "controllers of our daily lives".

BB: exactly. so why say they don't exist?

Top bankers, presidents, businessmen, land owners. Stock tycoons, Oil tycoons.

They aren't all apart of the same group...they might not know eachother.

BB: HAHA!! might not know each other. that's RICH.

But if it looks like it's pushing us into that historical pit fall every civilization has ever taken, millenia past, we call it "Illuminati" no matter what.

BB: seems to me the masses are just being introduced to the handlers "en masse". more condirioning, i'm sure.

Civilization is no more than 8,000 years old as we know it, and history is no more than 5,000 years old.

BB: are you omnicient?

How can we say what may be a normal up and down trend, is really the act of some "secret society".

BB: research. try "primitive" tribes as an alternate paradigm. follow the money and bloodlines for western trends and causes.

So secret in fact that it vanished without a trace at about 1780, and hasn't been heard from since.

BB: mmm hmmm.

Even the Ninja's were known of better than that, and they truly were a "master of secrets".

BB: statistics, please?

[Edited on 3-6-2003 by TheWanderer]

intellectual cockiness is a cage.

posted on Oct, 5 2003 @ 01:27 PM
I don't know about 23, but I have an inkling towards the number 33, thats what I always notice and it always pops up in life. That and the number 7, which is prominent in revelaions, they are the only 2 numbers that I feel are special.

Who knows if numbers can actually have an effect on anything........there a some scientists and religios factions that believe numbers are much more "involved" than we think, affecting us and the world around as, it's all very strange

posted on Oct, 5 2003 @ 01:29 PM
There is a techno soudsystem from england well known "spiraltribe" and "network23".

posted on Oct, 7 2003 @ 09:38 PM

Originally posted by The Real Deal

The golden section, an ancient progression of whole numbers represented by the series 2,3,5,8 etc. is repeated again and again in Nature.

actually, what we find in nature is the fibonacci sequence. start with one, add it to itself, then always add the two previous numbers to get the next one. 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, etc.
as the numbers get higher the ratio between adjacent numbers gets closer and closer to the golden mean, which is the ONLY sequence which can be defined with only two numbers. a sequence with no beginning and no end. eternal, as in.

December 23, 2012 is the day the classic Mayans said the world would end.

the jury's out on the exact date. December 21, at 12:21 is compelling. i have also seen an interpretation that gives the calender a few MILLION more years before it ends.

The Harmonic Convergence occurs every 23,000 years.

the grand cycle is closer to 26,000 years.

To me though the number 23 means nothing,just another number.

all numbers are "just another number". each has a different signifigance to our reality, though. the illuminati are heavily into numerology. that in itself makes it relevant when looking for patterns. pattern recognition is the game of conciousness.

the numbers of god(or satan/saturn/kronos?, lord of the MATERIAL world).

posted on Oct, 12 2003 @ 02:44 AM
i had a revelation regarding this. simple. 23. 2/3. 0.666

posted on Oct, 12 2003 @ 03:03 AM
The number 23 may not have necessary importance, but I can assure you, it is a number tagged by the illuminati.
It is their number, it has nothing to do with Christmas, the Mayan Calander, blood cells, vertibraes, and whatever else was mentioned..It is strictly a symbol they give or leave subtley, to say 'We've been here it belongs to us"

Now if someone tries to give you a mark with the number 23 on it or a number that adds up to it, I might be a tad bit concerned. Right now however, this is really a petty thread and is kind of reminding me of the cat you feed once that persist on coming back for more..

I WILL say this though..I'm amazed at all the interest and responses, that right there should tell us all something


posted on Oct, 12 2003 @ 03:28 AM
Hey I just realized... this is the year 2003... 23... woah.

posted on Oct, 12 2003 @ 03:45 AM
it's a big year for the illuminated. ask governor terminator.

posted on Oct, 12 2003 @ 03:50 AM

Originally posted by billybob
it's a big year for the illuminated. ask governor terminator.

That is THE funniest thing I've read in a while!
"governer terminator" Rotflmao!!

posted on Oct, 13 2003 @ 11:18 PM
I am not a big fan of numbers having significance.
If you look hard enough you can find the same type of coincidences for other numbers as well.
However if RAW thinks there is something to it... well there just might be!

posted on Oct, 14 2003 @ 02:38 AM
Majestica, i dont know if this was the site u posted. but nonetheless this site might provide u with some info for yourself.


posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 10:09 PM
Read The Illuminatus Trilogy and Principia Discordia. Once you start looking you will see 23's everywhere. But if you also start looking for single shoes on the side of the road you will see 100's of those as well.

--The Mgt.

posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 11:14 PM
Let's see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Here's a few more:

23 is the first prime number in which both digits are prime numbers and add up to another prime number.

23 Axioms in Euclid's Geometry.

The Knights Templars had only 23 Grandmasters. Jacques de Molay was the 23rd and last of the Templar Grandmasters.

After the Rodney King verdict, a Korean shopkeeper during the L.A riots can be clearly seen shooting at looters from the roof of a building in front of a large sign proclaiming the number 23 and nothing else.

There are 23 letters in the Latin alphabet

Max Headroom broadcast on Network 23.

Nissan is a brand of Japanese cars. In Japanese, "ni" is 2, and "san" is 3. So Nissan would be 23.

In the film version (titled _Alice_) of Lewis Carroll's classic _Alice in Wonderland_ by the Czech director/animator Jan Svankmejer, Alice's taxidermically stuffed rabbit flings open the door by dressing itself and running 'away'. The case that holds the white rabbit (i.e. Pookah (i.e. one who takes you OUT)) is labeled "No. 23"

In the Qabalistic Tree of Life the 23rd path is associated with the Hanged Man Tarot Card. Aleister Crowley also states that this card represents the concept that the only way OUT is WITHIN.

23 HOP is the club where the Toronto rave scene was created.

Popeye is seen repeatedly pondering the number 23 in many of his 1970's TV Cartoons.

Film: _Star Wars_ (vhs/ntsc) - In the final assault on the Death Star, Luke Skywalker is in Red 5. Red 2 and Red 3 start the bomb runs at 23 degrees. "Stay on target!"

Film: _Star Wars_ (vhs/ntsc) (1977) - AA-23 - designation of the detention block on the first Death Star used to imprison Princess Leia. It was located on Level 5.

Standard TCP/IP port for Telnet is 23.

In the movie _THX1138_ (vhs/ntsc) (1970) (faces: Robert Duvall and Donald Pleasance - directed by George Lucas and produced by Francis Ford Coppala), the main police droid is number 23.

Apollo Lunar Landings 1 & 2 - First landing on the Moon was in the Sea of Tranquility, 23.63 degrees East. Second landing was in the Ocean of Storms, 23.42 degrees West. Notice the names of the picked sights and how they contrast. Note: First two landings were Apollo 11 & 12 (11+12= 23). Just exactly what does NASA know?

W is the 23 letter of this alphabet. The symbol for that letter is two points down and three points up.

William Shakespeare was born and died on Apri 23. Most of Shakespeare is known to us through the first folio published in 1623.

The human biorhythm cycle is generally 23 days. One measures a circle beginning anywhere.

It takes 23 seconds for blood to circulate through the human body.

In the epic cartoon _Yellow Submarine_ the Blue Meenies are comprised of a wild pack of destructive anti-music villains. Among them is a character named the Butterfly Stomper (butterfly being a symbol of transformation). The Butterfly Stomper is one who destroys all things of beauty. On his shirt is the number 23...

In the early '60's in Tangiers, William Burroughs knew a certain "Captain Clark" who ran a ferry from Tangiers to Spain. One day, Clark said to Burroughs that he'd been running the ferry 23 years without an accident. That very day the ferry sank, killing Clark and everyone aboard. In the evening, Burroughs was thinking about this when he turned on the radio. The first newscast headlined the crash of an airline plane on the New York-Miami route. The pilot was another Captain Clark and the flight was listed as Flight 23 (ala the line "Captain Clark welcomes you aboard.").

The human body has 46 chromosomes, which are paired, in somatic cells. Generative cells have half this number, 23, which is the number of chromosomes each parents gives to human DNA.

Money: U.S. Coinage - There are exactly 23 plainly visible characters (letters & numbers) on the front of U.S. Coins.

The Earth is tilted at an angle of 23.5 degrees (At the moment)

film: _Unbearable Lightness Of Being_ - The characters had stopped in a doorway, as the Russian tanks rolled into the city. The number on the doorway was 23.

tv series - _Kung Fu_ episode #23 - _The Tong_ - Caine helps a missionary woman rescue a Chinese boy from slavery to a member of the Dragon of Retribution Tong.

There are 23 buildings on the Microsoft campus in Redmond, Washington.

The "Dog Days" of summer begin on July 23rd when the star Sirius (the brightest star in our Summer sky), first rises from behind the sun in the Constellation of Canis Major.

The pattern of DNA shows irregular connections at every 23rd section (angtroms).

Humans have 23 vertebra running down their main bit.

the 23rd letter in the Greek alphabet is Psi. In quantum physics the wave function (denoted by the Greek psi symbol) is sometimes referred to as mathematical fiction. When Schrodinger developed his famous wave equation, it was a puzzle as to what psi really represented. It was concluded that the wave function depicted probabilities--and not energy.

The 23rd hexagram of the I-Ching signifies chaos, Disintegration.

film _One Hour Photo_ (vhs/ntsc)(2002) directed by Mark Romanek - 23 was shown twice. the number of the kid's soccer jersey, as well as how many peole waiting to be served at the one hour photo. it's also Catch-23 Productions

film _Matrix: Reloaded_ - Architect: "The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which, you will be required to select from the Matrix 23 individuals - 16 female, 7 male - to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the Matrix, which, coupled with the extermination of Zion, will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race."
Neo: "You won't let it happen. You can't. You need human beings to survive."


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posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 05:44 AM
23 was the number of Michael Jordan. At his 2nd comeback, he chose number 40, but he did not play well...then we got back to #23, and scored 55 points against the New York Nicks, at his 6th game after return!

posted on Apr, 25 2007 @ 04:48 PM
Check it out:

23 - cultural meme or independent weirdness?

Just noticed how old this thread is.


[edit on 25/4/07 by Implosion]

posted on Apr, 25 2007 @ 05:32 PM

posted on Apr, 25 2007 @ 06:51 PM
"23" is a cultural meme, started by Robert Anton Wilson, as stated elsewhere in this thread. I found the book about 6 years ago, read it and immediately went online to check the significance of teh number 23. There was NOTHING except the principia discordia site, dedicated to Wilson's work.

You should also look for FNORD, if your're intersted.

The golden mean/section, is the ratio 1/1.618

The Human body is laid out to this ratio, as is much else in nature. The Legs are 1.618 times longer than the torso, the forearm is 1.618 times longer than the upper arm, etc.

Now thats what I call number magic!

Hail Eris & 23 skidoo!

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