Tea Party embraces neo-conservatism

In my opinion the grass roots libertarian movement was co-opted the minute the member term tea party was applied.

www.unitedliberty.org...

Sorry I can't post a clip from the article here, I'm at work and posting from my phone. Also, I did try and search and did not see this yet but sorry if it is already posted.

I think true libertarians have seen this coming a long way off.

Yeah, I tried to express this in another thread and got called a troll.
Any kind of movement like this will get co-opted, and we will end up with the same crap we always end up with.

Originally posted by Ozzy Mandias

I think true libertarians have seen this coming a long way off.

It was the very first concern.

When the dust settles though the libertarians will have gained more minds having been through it all and the two-party BS will be just a little bit weaker than it was before the tea party.

Same thing happened with the green party. Dems came in an corrupted the hell out of it leaving the real greens stronger and the dems fewer in overall numbers.

Then they had to play a two-party spin to bolster the numbers again.

Such a shame people apparently have no capacity to remember anything. With all the books, audio and video they still just forget. It's not like a span of 4-12 years is even that long of a period of time and still their memories are wiped out and they just repeat the same nonsense.

Must be all the TV and fast food.

The neocons love to co-opt. Leech onto other movements and ideologies to gain strength for theirs. Saw this a very long time ago when all sorts of disenfranchised Bushheads latched onto the Ron Paul libertarians. They're pretty obvious though...easy to spot...they're the same people who supported things done under the Bush administration that they're screaming at Obama about now. The aimless hypocrites with no real values or morals or sense of their own. And they're the same ones who if a "republican" gets elected in 2012 will drop like flies and go back to their little comfort zone they so miss.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the neocons didn't start the TPM in the first place.

The neocons are brilliant, know all about political manipulation for their own benefit and are ruthless in their approach.

The neocons are completely aware of the appeal of grass roots movements and would fabricate a political psyop if they thought they could some how manipulate it to their own ends.

They also know what demographic to target.

The PNAC is far from being over.



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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
The neocons love to co-opt. Leech onto other movements and ideologies to gain strength for theirs. Saw this a very long time ago when all sorts of disenfranchised Bushheads latched onto the Ron Paul libertarians. They're pretty obvious though...easy to spot...they're the same people who supported things done under the Bush administration that they're screaming at Obama about now. The aimless hypocrites with no real values or morals or sense of their own. And they're the same ones who if a "republican" gets elected in 2012 will drop like flies and go back to their little comfort zone they so miss.

This is true. They started as Democrats, mostly, back in the 70's, then morphed themselves into Republicans over time as they saw that Republicans would be more likely to follow their line (Democrats were much more unlikely to get sucked into their militarist ideology). But the Neo-Cons don't even seem to care about left-right or liberal-conservative, they are all about power and control.

Under Bush II they got his ear, and thus power, and so controlled our foreign policy, leading us into the Iraq war. Now they are trying to latch on to a new group as a new route to power.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the neocons didn't start the TPM in the first place.

I would suggest that you take a look at the man behind FreedomWorks (the astroturfing organization behind the Tea Party), Dick Armey. He's your classic neo-con: he supports the war in Iraq, he's a self proclaimed "Austrian economist", he is very, very pro-Israel, he's surrounded by theocratic nutjobs, he's lobbied for clandestine intervention in Iran, and oh yeah, he's a signer of the notorious 1998 PNAC letter to Bill Clinton, arguing for regime change in Iraq.

The PNAC is far from being over.

Agreed, it is now known as the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. The agenda being spun, however, can be traced to two separate organizations that form the duel 'hearts' of the GOP: the American Enterprise Institute (emphasis on free-market economics) and the Council on National Policy (emphasis on evangelical Christianity).

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This is exactly why I quit the Tea Party movement. The neocons have hijacked the movement and made it a laughing stock. IMO that was the plan.

The Tea Party was co-opted as already pointed out.

That said some well entrenched neo-conservatives incumbents, and a number of Socialist liberals have been put into retirement as a result of the movement.