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UFO caught heading into tornado. Amazing footage *Video*

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posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:19 AM
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You shouldn't have even bothered responding, especially with quotes. Because now when those posts get removed, as I'm sure they will be, the asinine ignorance will still be on display for everyone to see. There may still be time to edit them out though...




posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:28 AM
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reply to post by Curious and Concerned
 


Curious and Concerned.....

As I stated, I did that for a reason, that reason has now been served & I've removed all those now!


Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 3-7-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:28 AM
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i watched it 30 times i dont see what they are seeing lol
sorry just cant see anything



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher


threads like this one remind me of why i joined ATS in the first place, 5 short years ago.
if i was a mod, i would consider providing some applause.



End Transmission,
ET


Im a MOD and I tend to spend a lot of time analysizng photos/videos here. Its a bird. Its 1000% a bird. You can see the wings flapping. The video is nothing but a cool storm video. There is zero UFO activity in it.

I cant even believe this made any media flap over some UFO. Anyone with fingers can hit pause/play and see...........its a bird


ETA:
For clarification: I do not think im better than anyone or an all knowing moderator or right while everyone is wrong.


[edit on July 2nd 2010 by greeneyedleo]


You're a mod ? Well thats bad news for ATS. Why even start a post saying ,,I'm a mod" ...
Honestly you're ignorant statements are a little insulting to users of this forum.

First of all you clearly are a debunker, and i know that because you didn;t even watch the whole video with sound on and you came to a ,,1000% sure" conclusion, seriously ? Thats a big statement ... being 1000% sure, open minded skeptic wouldn' say that . "Don't show me the evidence, my mind is already made up" , thanks Stanton

Then you say that audio isn't important .... but what if audio contains evidence ??? like sonic boom,bird screams etc. You show great ignorance ...
Later when people don't buy you're bird theory and remind you of the speed/size analysis you start to smear the filmamaker, suggesting that he is lying and there was no analysis., yet your OPINION is evidence right ? We have the name of the institution and person who made the analysis, if someone cares enough they can probably contact them and confirm if the analysis was made or not .
Your rapid pausing of the video that produces the wing flapping is the most ridiculous method of ,,video analysis" ive heard of in a long time . Pausing aside if you really see wings flapping you have superman sight, or just deluding yourself to see what you want to see.
Later when some poeple start making fun of you ignorant statements you get emotional and start to play the victim.. oh boy .

Basically you shouldn't be a moderator because of your obvious bias. Sorry. But don't really take i personally ... 90 % of people here are in on of the ,,camps" and shouldn;t be a mod . You're a debunker.

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I'm giving it 80% chance ( yeah i'm not 100 % sure sue me ) to be super fast flying UFO . I don't know how to explain this in english so i will explain this my way ;p :
[IMG=http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/553/aliensman.jpg][/IMG]
So 80% for B, but could be an insect. Bird claims are ridiculous, you even get a reference after the 3:00 mark of a real bird flying ... like a bird... not like a bullet .

Could be a haox also ... even if it is an alien space craft I just can't get excited about this video ... because it's another ,,dot in the sky" video that proves nothing, believers will still believe, debunkers still see chinese lanterns and swamp gas and not enough evidence for open minded skeptic .



Disclaimer : English is not my first language so don't rage about the spelling errors 'n shiz .



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:38 AM
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Alpha Blue.....



Basically you shouldn't be a moderator


Basically, you shouldn't be so presumptuous & rude.

Basically, you should be extremely grateful for the hard work of mods such as greeneyedleo, in this difficult forum.

Sincerely
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Alpha_Blue
 


Alpha Blue.....



Basically you shouldn't be a moderator


Basically, you shouldn't be so presumptuous & rude.

Basically, you should be extremely grateful for the hard work of mods such as greeneyedleo, in this difficult forum.

Sincerely
Maybe...maybe not



thanks for this offtopic comment mr. policeman . I am gratefull for the mods work, I am not gratefull for the ignorant biased statements THIS perticular mode made .



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by jidnum
I watched it, I saw it. It's not a UFO or any sort of metallic craft. It looks like a moth or insect, or even a bird.


I will pay you $1,000 to find one, just ONE video of a moth/insect flying that straight for that duration.

Ridiculous statement.

Look I'm not saying this thing is an 'intelligently controlled vessel' UFO, but good grief, this is NOT a winged animal of any kind. Period. To imply as such, is sheer idiocy.



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by Alpha_Blue

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Alpha_Blue
 

Alpha Blue.....


Basically you shouldn't be a moderator

Basically, you shouldn't be so presumptuous & rude.
Basically, you should be extremely grateful for the hard work of mods such as greeneyedleo, in this difficult forum.
Sincerely
Maybe...maybe not

thanks for this offtopic comment mr. policeman . I am gratefull for the mods work, I am not gratefull for the ignorant biased statements THIS perticular mode made .


Hmm.....

OK....so that was your 7th post on ATS.....

However you presume to offer such insight into ATS & their moderators.....

I wonder who you are.....I mean were.....

Regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by Goathief
reply to post by greeneyedleo
 


You evidently didn't watch the entire video where the expert calculates that the object is 30ft long, 18ft high in the centre and travelling between 9000-16,000mph.

I don't think he is correct, but you should as a all-knowing moderator at least watch the entire video before dismissing people's arguments.


I watched the objects in the video. I didnt need sound. The sound has nothing to do with what is being seen.

And your rude remarks are completely unnecessary.



If you had the sound on you would've heard what their findings were.

How can it be a flapping bird if they're saying it was 30 feet long and traveling 9000mph?

I would hope the UFO community has the know-how to rule 'obvious' things out like, bird or insect.



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by One Moment

Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by Goathief
reply to post by greeneyedleo
 

You evidently didn't watch the entire video where the expert calculates that the object is 30ft long, 18ft high in the centre and travelling between 9000-16,000mph.
I don't think he is correct, but you should as a all-knowing moderator at least watch the entire video before dismissing people's arguments.

I watched the objects in the video. I didnt need sound. The sound has nothing to do with what is being seen.
And your rude remarks are completely unnecessary.

If you had the sound on you would've heard what their findings were.
How can it be a flapping bird if they're saying it was 30 feet long and traveling 9000mph?
I would hope the UFO community has the know-how to rule 'obvious' things out like, bird or insect.


One Moment.....

If you'd reviewed all the material pertaining to this as I have over the years & as per this thread, you would see there are huge holes in this "story".

Did you look at my post & greeneyedleo's post see how it "splits in 2" & then "reforms" & then "splits in 2" again?

Did you read Fox Mulders expose on the guy who made the video?

Are you aware that no one can find find a source document for all the scientific mumbo jumbo about the object doing 9,000 MPH?

Regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Alpha_Blue

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Alpha_Blue
 

Alpha Blue.....


Basically you shouldn't be a moderator

Basically, you shouldn't be so presumptuous & rude.
Basically, you should be extremely grateful for the hard work of mods such as greeneyedleo, in this difficult forum.
Sincerely
Maybe...maybe not

thanks for this offtopic comment mr. policeman . I am gratefull for the mods work, I am not gratefull for the ignorant biased statements THIS perticular mode made .


Hmm.....

OK....so that was your 7th post on ATS.....

However you presume to offer such insight into ATS & their moderators.....

I wonder who you are.....I mean were.....

Regards
Maybe...maybe not


I think you're breaking the rules now buddy by starting an offtopic disscusion with me .

You judge me by number of posts ... what are you 15 ?

I could be a lurker for years for all you know .

I don't imply anything, I see what this mod said, anyone can read it, and I think being 1000% sure without even watching the whole video is wrong, especially for a mod. But please spin it harder, you're trying to make me a bad guy now


And can you explain how my post was rude ? I was blunt, as I said english is not my firsy language, so sorry I don't talk like a care bear .
I guess I shouldn;t dare to reply to a ATS persona like you ... :rolleyes:



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by SquirrelNutz

Originally posted by jidnum
I watched it, I saw it. It's not a UFO or any sort of metallic craft. It looks like a moth or insect, or even a bird.

I will pay you $1,000 to find one, just ONE video of a moth/insect flying that straight for that duration.
Ridiculous statement.
Look I'm not saying this thing is an 'intelligently controlled vessel' UFO, but good grief, this is NOT a winged animal of any kind. Period. To imply as such, is sheer idiocy.


SquirrelNutz.....

I DO like that avatar of yours.....I get a chuckle every time I see it!


OK.....the video.....

I have 2 questions:

1. What do you think about this issue of the "splitting" & "reforming", as per my extensive post on the previous page?

2. What do you think about the idea of the object being a bug that is illuminated by a photographic or other light, under extreme perspective, thereby possibly making a very short flight path & a rapid transit across the field of view look like something of a much greater scale?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by One Moment
If you had the sound on you would've heard what their findings were.

How can it be a flapping bird if they're saying it was 30 feet long and traveling 9000mph?

I would hope the UFO community has the know-how to rule 'obvious' things out like, bird or insect.

How can it be what you say it is without any evidence whatsoever? It would be nice if the "UFO community" could rule out any obvious reasons for UFO's, but unfortunately, too many people are too gullible and willing to believe, so they throw all scepticisim out the door and rely on the opinions of others to come to conclusions.

I'm not saying UFO's don't exist. Far from it, as I've always been open to investigating UFO's, and I (and others with me) have recently witnessed an orb in daylight which I couldn't explain. But I'm not going to blindly believe that this is a 30 foot long super craft because someone on the video said so. I want to see the evidence, such as the other footage that supposedly caught this, and the so called analysis done by Skeet, which apparantly shows what you have so easily accepted as fact.

Edit to add:
Also, the object is in the frame for less than two seconds. If it were an insect, it is entirely plausible to be flying straight (it wasn't really completely straight anyway) for that short period of time. Especially if there were winds in the area, it could have been a mere dandelion blowing in the wind. As far as I'm concerned, that is more plausible than a 30 foot craft cruising at 500 feet unless of course, there actually is corrobarating videos and analysis done by professionals, which I am yet to see.

[edit on 3/7/10 by Curious and Concerned]



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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Curious and Concerned.....

Do you have an opinion as to what the object is?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:13 AM
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Noisemedia.....

I sent you a U2U.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:16 AM
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maybe...maybe not, you are one of the most obnoxious posters on this website.

first of all, the splitting in two is because this was filmed on some old ass '97 video camera, and the object is moving so fast that the camera can barely keep up with it to record it, CASE CLOSED.

secondly, greeneyedleo can say whatever she wants about the subject, and anyone can say what they want to about her. if she decides to weigh in on a thread, then her post and opinion are up to scrutiny. you don't need to be a lapdog and defend her just to look good. there is no way what that object is in that video is a bird. am i one thousand percent certain? absolutely not, but any flapping she sees going on is because of the nature of the technology when this event was recorded.

thirdly, the amount of posts someone has under their belt doesn't mean anything. just because you prefer quantity, over quality, doesn't mean you should assume a bunch of made up BS about other posters who don't share your opinion.



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:18 AM
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OH FGS!!!

GEL, I'm out. How many posts insist on sticking to hearsay by the videographer himself about this "expert" analysis. 30 feet long. 200 million MPH. Whatever. Oh yeah, not just ordinary experts guys, NASA!

NASA saying 13 years ago that disclosure is not necessary, cause they've already given us the smoking gun, courtesy of Marshall SFC.

Show me the report.

Till then, you sheeple can stick to your guns because you want to believe what this guy (er, salesman...actually he is! He's selling the video!) offers as proof -

-Even though I can pretty much guarantee no such analysis/ report exists,

-if it does, the person doing it must have either retired from NASA in 1945...or more than likely, was employed by NASA but was assigned to double secret probation areas, therefore no employment records exist. No, wait, he agreed to do the analysis, but only anonymously...right?

-This dude lost his job because he was so obsessed with this big bird cameo he captured

-Has already been proven a liar (see other thread)

-Did I mention he was selling the video?

But that's okay, we all deny ignorance here, let's keep regurgitating these fabricated stats regarding speed and size purported by a liar. Only a complete moron would think he could calculate anything significant based on this video.

Great work people.

Call me when the shuttle lands, GEL. There was a cool moon anomalies thread around here somewhere...



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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No clue what it is, but I know what it is NOT.

Given the revelations in the past few pages (the history of the filmer), I'm likely to believe this is a hoax.



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:26 AM
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Hey there shagreen heart, I've looked dozens of times, and I don't see any indication of the interaction with the cloud you mentioned. What time in the video did you see this? Maybe you could point out a timestamp during one of the slow motion replays?

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 

I've posted what my initial thoughts were earlier on, that was that of something close to the camera, considering noone saw it with their eyes and the way it fades. If I could see any interaction with the cloud, or any other actual evidence other than this guys word, I would consider other possibilities though.



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:26 AM
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What were we talking about again? UFO's? Birds?

All this over yet another little blurry thing. Come on guys.

This thread is actually starting to make the US Political Madness forum look more interesting.

Is it me or is it getting hot in here? Good luck with this thread guys, I gotta go.

Someone let me know if Stanton Friedman logs on and settles the score.



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