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Originally posted by Pryde87
reply to post by The Wave
Exactly. The new generation of germans are still feeling shame for what the nazis did even though it was 40 years before their time. I think germany has set a perfect example of how a backwards nation can change itself into one of the most ethically developed countries in the world.
Originally posted by Kram09
How would people feel if someone in America had the sound of the planes slamming into the World Trade Centres as a ringtone on their phone?
The new generation of germans are still feeling shame for what the nazis did even though it was 40 years before their time.
Originally posted by Pryde87
reply to post by octotom
What you say is true. I dont mean they actively feel guilty all the time, but when a discussion of the 2nd world war comes up they feel embarassed, or when a joke is cracked about the war then they sometimes dont find it funny because it is a shameful time for them and their nation. I didnt mean that they felt personally guilty or ashamed, but it has dented their ability to show pride in their country.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Germany has an obligation dictated by it's recent history to be a strong proponent of anti fascism, and to fight its rallying symbology wherever encountered within the state. That may sound menacing to Americans...but the last time they had a foreign army torch the White House was in the War of 1812. (Sorry about that bit of unpleasantness, eh?)
It is also the price to pay for rebuilding and enjoying German national pride without the rest of the world seeing it as a threat.
Originally posted by Solomons
I don't understand this view that germans today should somehow feel ashamed of WW2 either. Germans today are some of the nicest and most intelligent people you will ever meet in the world and have absolutely nothing to be ashamed about, the way in which WW2 is exploited to try and make them feel bad is disgusting...even more disgusting is Jewish organizations controlled by Israel siphoning billions from Germany through blackmail, not to help the very few survivors of the holocaust(survivor numbers are extremely exaggerated) but to line their own pockets. I think if you asked most Germans they would have no problem with this man and his ring tone, i don't think they would even care about someone disputing the numbers involved in the holocaust(which is illegal in germany i think) it is pressure from other countries that makes them feel ashamed for thinking that people have the right to believe these things and through their silence it allows people to take advantage of them imo.
[edit on 2-7-2010 by Solomons]
Originally posted by Siddharta
Having someone in between, who has Adolf Hitler as a ringtone really is disturbing that new development. Maybe he can do it in a few years, but I doubt it, because there are still some people, who suffered from that guy so much, that they are shocked to hear his voice as a ringing phone.