California Gov. Schwarzenegger orders minimum wage for 200,000 state workers, citing lack of Budget, page 3

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reply posted on 2-7-2010 @ 09:57 AM by Bhadhidar

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting

I feel better that it is only for one month. The professionals can suck up a month, and I personally wouldn't complain too much either, although I would be furious I'd been put in that position.

But it is NOT "only for one month".

The order is to pay State workers $7.25 @ hour Until there is a State Budget Signed into Law!

Last year, it took almost THREE MONTHS fo the State' Legislature to hammer out a passable budget. It was out of balance almost from the moment it was passed.

This year, the budget must cover an even larger deficit of almost $20 Billion. In an economy that is even worst than last year's.

How long it will take to work out a budget, get it passed and signed into law so that state workers can get paid is anyone's guess: but it will probably take Longer than last year.

Hint: If they simply sent everyone home for the entire year, without Any pay, it would only save the state government $1 - 2 billion of the $20 billion the State needs just to break even!

$7.25 @ Hour?

A cross-legged prostitute makes more than that!

reply posted on 2-7-2010 @ 10:08 AM by nltkn

reply posted on 2-7-2010 @ 12:10 PM by centurion1211

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by Hx3_1963

You do understand that state's employ engineers for your highway departments?

Your Psychiatrists, Psychologists, and Social Workers for state operated mental health centers?

That University professors are state employees?

State Troopers?

Physicians at State funded hospitals?

Do you think these people sit around playing with staplers all day?

And who will process food stamps? Who will go check on abused and neglected children?

Do you realize what an enormous bureaucracy state government is?
And how many people will be effected here?

Honestly to God, the man just makes one stupid decision after another.
Only California would elect a movie star. And that's what they've got.

[edit on 7/1/2010 by ladyinwaiting]

No problem.

We have all the millions of illegals to "fill the jobs Americans don't want to do". IF CA state workers walk off their jobs, the jobs could be classified as "jobs Americans don't want to do".

I predict that more educated mexican state and federal workers will now rush the border to take those jobs if CA state workers walk out.

reply posted on 2-7-2010 @ 12:17 PM by buddhasystem

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
eta: On second thought, I wish all the state employees would get up and walk out tomorrow. See how he can manage all those empty buildings, ringing phones, and paperwork himself. Yep. Not even a security guard to stand outside his lonely building.

Astounding. You make it sound like the Governor is running the State for his own amusement and comfort, with employees being his personal serfs. This is bullcr@p. California has become a dysfunctional democracy in which it's ungovernable anymore because people don't make difficult decisions. It's not really Schwarzenegger's fault that the State came to this. I heard prison guards were out en masse to protest renegotiated wages some two years ago or so.

If California has lived beyond its means for a long time, it's not right to hang all of it on the Governator. He tried.

reply posted on 6-7-2010 @ 03:54 PM by memarf1

Edit: Apologies, I just found the Sacbee story. I seriously doubt the state controller will do it, the LATimes reported that he already announced he wouldn't do it.

LATImes:
articles.latimes.com...

Cnn Reports:
www.cnn.com...

Also the huffington post more recently wrote:
www.huffingtonpost.com...

[edit on 6-7-2010 by memarf1]

reply posted on 9-7-2010 @ 08:18 PM by spaznational

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by spaznational

That's an amazing attitude. Seriously.

I must have issues thinking I'm equal to others, and that my work has value.

Seriously. I'm just not cut out to be somebody's door mat. I love to help people, and do so frequently. But not like this. Not by force. Not by having my life turned upside down.

I'm not criticizing you. You seem very humble, and understanding.
I just can't imagine that the majority of workers will feel the same.
Especially after working for a while in one of the professional positions.

If you planned your life around a certain income, as we all do, then to suddenly have that pulled out from under you, would be extremely difficult. Life changing. ............................
Ya know? I would have to leave there. I wouldn't spend my life in a forced poverty to pay for the mistakes I had no control over. People are just different, I guess.

My issue is equality. He's no better than anybody else. Not by my estimation.
That's just how I feel.
Sorry, if I'm stepping on toes. I don't mean to. This just makes me angry.

Edit to remove unnecessary comments.

[edit on 7/1/2010 by ladyinwaiting]

I understand where you're coming from. An individual's work does have value, but this isn't a rule. If you were paid to walk in a circle all day, just for the sake of making employment figures look better, of what value would that be?

I'm not a hypocrite nor far removed from the situation. I'm not screaming "cut those dirty public sector worker salaries!" from a safe position in a private corporation. In fact, my work is both professional and public, and as such I have to constantly ask myself if the public is getting their (tax) money's worth of me. Does my job involve "walking in circles" or does it truly benefit the public?

People indeed plan on income levels, but often make the mistake of taking it for granted. Prosperity is not a fundamental right. It is a great personal goal, however, and something one should strive for. Egalitarianism teaches that we all have the same capacity for success, prosperity, etc., and anyone who excelles above the norm must be cheating or defrauding others. Egalitarianism is wrong. To use a cliche example, I'm not expecting to be drafted by the NFL any time soon.

People who feel their work is worth more than their pay should be free to pursue new careers. This is the root of prosperity! Protesting about perceived injustices is a misdirection of effort, and it possibly hints at an underlying personal fear that perhaps, well, their work isn't all that valuable.

You said you wouldn't spend your life in a forced poverty, and I would never expect you to! I would expect you to fight and strive! And along the way you can still help people.

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