Note to mods:
as i site a lot of political polls and election statistics, i believed this belonged in this thread instead of the predictions thread. i am not making
any specific predictive dates, its more political speculation based on facts. please move it if it is inappropriate.
today i had an interesting conversation with one of my friends. long story short, we both came to realize that we have entirely different
perspectives, opinions, and expectations on society and government . i love him like my brother, but if we were to start a new country together, we
would not agree on anything. the most interesting part was i had never disagreed so much with someone, yet the conversation was entirely civil, and
i took a lot from that conversation. i realized that with every vote i cast (with exceptions to drug laws...the one thing we agree on), he was
canceling me out. these were issues that i find very important, like education, environmental regulations, gun laws, taxes, class war...you name it. i
could see his side, and understand that his opinion is just as valid as mine, and that he has the best of intentions, but he would rather have it his
way, and i mine.
i came home and decided to look up some polls. a lot of polls. i also looked at a lot of election numbers. now, i already feel the electoral college
is a total scam, but as i looked at the numbers and the issues, in-depth, i realized something that meant more than just votes. we are split right
down the middle, or close to it, ideologically and politically on almost EVERY SINGLE important issue in this country.
what does this mean?
299,398,484 total population 225,746,457 total population over 18 years 122,394,724 total number of US citizens that voted in 2008 election = 54% of
population voted. Between 22 and 24 million Americans ages 18-29 voted, resulting in an estimated youth voter turnout of between 49.3 and 54.5
if only half of the people voted, roughly, that could vote in this country, and each president got only about half of those votes
(obama 53% mccain 46%
), only one out of every four people actually voted for one of
these guys. 23% to 16% doesnt sound as impressive as 365 to 173 electoral votes.
one out of every four people in this country either dont care, or disagree with you. remember, mccain and obama both promised big things! universal
health care, pulling out of the war in the middle east, development of green industries...have you seen the world around you? what makes anyone think
mccain would have followed through with anything he said?
i remember reading back in 08 an article about a man named igor panarin
predicted the united states would dissolve this year. after looking at polls on many issues, i dont think hes that far off, and frankly, it doesnt
sound like a bad idea anymore.
DISCLAIMER: this is just an observation, NOT a prediction. i didnt say 2010, igor did
from the right to own guns
"What do you think is more important -- to protect the right of Americans to own guns, or to control gun ownership?"Right To Own Guns 46%,
Control Ownership 46%, Unsure 7%
to illegal drugs
"Do you think that the use of marijuana should be made legal or not?" Legal 44%, Not legal 54%, Unsure 7%
(whether you like it or not lol):
"Would you support or oppose a program giving ILLEGAL immigrants now living in the United States the right to live here LEGALLY if they pay a fine
and meet other requirements?" Support 57%, Oppose 40%, Unsure 3%
"A new law in Arizona would give police the power to ask people they've stopped to verify their residency status. Supporters say this will help
crack down on illegal immigration. Opponents say it could violate civil rights and lead to racial profiling. On balance, do you support or oppose this
law?" Support 58%, Oppose 41%, Unsure 2%
notice that just as many people would rather keep them and make them legal as would kick them out...interesting.
to health care
"In general, do you support, oppose or neither support nor oppose the health care reforms that were passed by Congress in March?"
Support 45%, Oppose 42%, Neither 13%, Unsure 1%
now, i realize poll's are never perfect, and i realize that some can be skewed. nevertheless, i have checked other places, as you are more than
welcome to do yourself, and for the really big issues they stay fairly stable.
as i reflect back on that conversation, i now have i new idea of a viable road to peaceful revolution: letting go. lets face it, there are many people
in this country that, if they arent already, WOULD make decisions that effect my life in an extremely adverse way, and sinister or not, they would do
it "for my own good." what if we could start anew before we destroy what is left? what if we all sat down, decided who we can get on board with, and
just made a clean cut? we could get along on the same continent better, i feel, if we were free to live under a government that fit ideologically. we
could work out trade agreements with each other, handle immigration problems our own way, and be able to have the freedoms or restrictions that we
would agree with.
i also believe it would create a more healthy form of competition between us, since we wouldnt be squabbling as much about abortion rights or health
care. we dont argue with other countries about how they handle such issues, but we get along with a good amount of them, and i wouldnt see us starting
any ridiculous wars if we had to actually deal with the consequences on our own continent.
of course, this is assuming that we ALLOW the country to fall into bankruptcy and the war ends because we cant pay for it. bank cartels and
war-profiteers need us to "stick it out," right?
what if the invisible had that controls you is really just your neighbor, but youre too afraid to say good bye?