The Iraqis did it?

Seriously, there was no official inquest - ever. The public enquiry had a contrived cause of death announced even before it was halfway done. Nothing to hide, all above board, yet papers were hidden under a 70 year classification.

Sorry, this was a blatant cover-up of a murder and the government and security services, certainly some in very high places, were in it up to their ears. They let it happen and then went into damage control mode, bypassing or ignoring laws and procedure in order to make it go away.

Much as I'd like to see Tony Blair, Jeff Hoon and others involved behind bars, it'll never happen. As with all big conspiracies, even when blatantly obvious, the perps all have a get-out-of-jail-free card to play. That is, if ones is allowed to fall or sacrificed, they bring the rest down on the way. This ensures none will ever be prosecuted or stand trial. It's just one big criminal enterprise!

Oh, for heaven’s sake.

The independent pathologists attributed Dr Kelly’s death to (1) the severing of his left ulna artery (2) the ingestion of a large number of pain killers and (3) a pre-existing heart condition. The Hutton Inquiry said it was suicide.

Potted history - Kelly leaked to Gilligan (BBC). Gilligan published. Gilligan said his source was a “senior intelligence officer”. Kelly admitted to his MOD superiors that he was the source (note that Kelly was not in intelligence), although he denied certain quotes. It all became public. Kelly was transformed from private individual to public figure and hauled before Parliamentary Committees where his denials about what he said to Gilligan were exposed on 15 July. On July 17 he topped himself.

What was the Government motivation to murder him? He had already spilled the beans. His career was well and truly shafted.

It is disappointing to some people that this man was not murdered. The whole murder conspiracy is silly and has no plausibility or grounding in facts. Oh, I know that a bunch of doctors (not pathologists) who did not examine Kelly wrote letters to the papers questioning “suicide” and that helped build this conspiracy, but that is not evidence. Baker lost the plot with this one.

And now this – years after the event some bloke pops up and says the guy was a weakling and therefore could not have cut his own wrist. Give it a rest and let the dead rest.

Regards

the 59-year-old even 'had difficulty cutting his own steak

He didn't look that bad in front of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee on the 15th of July 2003, yes under big amounts of stress and showing it....but I don't think he was too week to cut his own steak

I agree with micpsi

A far stronger argument is that Dr Kelly was left-handed, yet he implausibly used his right hand to cut his left wrist. Also, no fingerprints were found on the knife and no gloves were found at the scene

Its a tradegy what happened to Dr Kelly, but even if the foul play was proven, do you really think anything will happen to the most obvious suspect Tony Blair if it turned out to be him? He's got away clean with EVERYTHING he did so far, so why would this be any different?

Originally posted by Pockets
Think I may have just found something out...we all know the Dr was a Spook...and that he had many government and spook computers......and...

No, David Kelly was not a "spook". He was not part of intelligence at all. He was a civil service employee working with the Ministry of Defence and he also had a UN position.

Regards

Originally posted by paraphi

Originally posted by Pockets
Think I may have just found something out...we all know the Dr was a Spook...and that he had many government and spook computers......and...

No, David Kelly was not a "spook". He was not part of intelligence at all. He was a civil service employee working with the Ministry of Defence and he also had a UN position.

Regards

Kelly wasn't an intelligence operative, but was deeply involved in advising and working with intelligence agencies throughout the world. In some circles he was considered the foremost authority on weapons of mass destruction.

Originally posted by paraphi
Oh, for heaven’s sake.

The independent pathologists attributed Dr Kelly’s death to (1) the severing of his left ulna artery (2) the ingestion of a large number of pain killers and (3) a pre-existing heart condition. The Hutton Inquiry said it was suicide.

"independent"? They were government pathologists carefully protecting their pensions.

Originally posted by paraphi
Potted history - Kelly leaked to Gilligan (BBC). Gilligan published. Gilligan said his source was a “senior intelligence officer”. Kelly admitted to his MOD superiors that he was the source (note that Kelly was not in intelligence), although he denied certain quotes. It all became public. Kelly was transformed from private individual to public figure and hauled before Parliamentary Committees where his denials about what he said to Gilligan were exposed on 15 July. On July 17 he topped himself.

What was the Government motivation to murder him? He had already spilled the beans. His career was well and truly shafted.

Not very informed, are you? The links have already been posted here to national newspaper journalists quoting a guy with intelligence contacts who knew Kelly and who said that Kelly had written a book revealing secrets that the British government would have been highly embarrassed to made public because they would have proved that Blair lied about Iraq having WMD.

Originally posted by paraphi
It is disappointing to some people that this man was not murdered.

Not disappointed. Some of us, unlike you, are perturbed by contradictions in the evidence provided by the police.

Originally posted by paraphi
The whole murder conspiracy is silly and has no plausibility or grounding in facts.

There are many contradictions that point to murder. Kelly himself said that he would be probably be found dead in the woods. LOL! You are in total denial.

Originally posted by paraphi
Oh, I know that a bunch of doctors (not pathologists) who did not examine Kelly wrote letters to the papers questioning “suicide” and that helped build this conspiracy, but that is not evidence.

Nor was the pathologists' opinions "evidence". But contradictory medical opinion needs to be faced, not dismissed.

Originally posted by paraphi
Baker lost the plot with this one.

No. Unlike you, Baker was willing to take seriously contradictions in the evidence.

Originally posted by paraphi
And now this – years after the event some bloke pops up and says the guy was a weakling and therefore could not have cut his own wrist. Give it a rest and let the dead rest.

You would not make a good detective. I mean - always wanting murder cases to be never solved

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