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Ancient unsolved codes and riddles ?

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posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 12:14 AM
I was wondering if there are any ancient codes or riddles yet to be solved ?

I can't remember ever hearing of such a thing but find it hard to believe that the ancients haven't left some unsolved codes for our brain racking enjoyment ?

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 12:16 AM
reply to post by Max_TO

Thanks for the thread! Very interesting!

I cannot think of any off the top of my head, but you may be very interested in ancient philosopher's paradoxes. A google search is a good place to start with that. You might find it interesting!

Kind regards

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 12:22 AM
Plato has one in Timeaus. (The text where he introduces the world to Atlantis)

I actually started a thread about it once, hoping to get some mathematically inclined people to take a look at it, as I cannot make heads or tails of it.

Now God did not make the soul after the body, although we are speaking of them in this order; for having brought them together he would never have allowed that the elder should be ruled by the younger; but this is a random manner of speaking which we have, because somehow we ourselves too are very much under the dominion of chance. Whereas he made the soul in origin and excellence prior to and older than the body, to be the ruler and mistress, of whom the body was to be the subject. And he made her out of the following elements and on this wise: Out of the indivisible and unchangeable, and also out of that which is divisible and has to do with material bodies, he compounded a third and intermediate kind of essence, partaking of the nature of the same and of the other, and this compound he placed accordingly in a mean between the indivisible, and the divisible and material. He took the three elements of the same, the other, and the essence, and mingled them into one form, compressing by force the reluctant and unsociable nature of the other into the same. When he had mingled them with the essence and out of three made one, he again divided this whole into as many portions as was fitting, each portion being a compound of the same, the other, and the essence. And he proceeded to divide after this manner:-First of all, he took away one part of the whole [1], and then he separated a second part which was double the first [2], and then he took away a third part which was half as much again as the second and three times as much as the first [3], and then he took a fourth part which was twice as much as the second [4], and a fifth part which was three times the third [9], and a sixth part which was eight times the first [8], and a seventh part which was twenty-seven times the first [27]. After this he filled up the double intervals [i.e. between 1, 2, 4, 8] and the triple [i.e. between 1, 3, 9, 27] cutting off yet other portions from the mixture and placing them in the intervals, so that in each interval there were two kinds of means, the one exceeding and exceeded by equal parts of its extremes [as for example 1, 4/3, 2, in which the mean 4/3 is one-third of 1 more than 1, and one-third of 2 less than 2], the other being that kind of mean which exceeds and is exceeded by an equal number. Where there were intervals of 3/2 and of 4/3 and of 9/8, made by the connecting terms in the former intervals, he filled up all the intervals of 4/3 with the interval of 9/8, leaving a fraction over; and the interval which this fraction expressed was in the ratio of 256 to 243. And thus the whole mixture out of which he cut these portions was all exhausted by him. This entire compound he divided lengthways into two parts, which he joined to one another at the centre like the letter X, and bent them into a circular form, connecting them with themselves and each other at the point opposite to their original meeting-point; and, comprehending them in a uniform revolution upon the same axis, he made the one the outer and the other the inner circle. Now the motion of the outer circle he called the motion of the same, and the motion of the inner circle the motion of the other or diverse. The motion of the same he carried round by the side to the right, and the motion of the diverse diagonally to the left. And he gave dominion to the motion of the same and like, for that he left single and undivided; but the inner motion he divided in six places and made seven unequal circles having their intervals in ratios of two-and three, three of each, and bade the orbits proceed in a direction opposite to one another; and three [Sun, Mercury, Venus] he made to move with equal swiftness, and the remaining four [Moon, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter] to move with unequal swiftness to the three and to one another, but in due proportion.

It is one of his more interesting works, as well as being the first mention of Atlantis, he also tells of a fire that comes every so many thousand years and wipes out most civilizations who then have to regrow almost from scratch.

I would be very interested to understand what he is saying in this portion. There is no question it has meaning, and in my mind, significant meaning, but what it is remains a mystery.

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 12:23 AM
I may have just found one ....

Voynich Manuscript - At least 400 years old, this is a 232-page illuminated manuscript entirely written in a secret script. It is filled with copious drawings of unidentified plants, herbal recipes of some sort, astrological diagrams, and many small human figures in strange plumbing-like contraptions. The script is unlike anything else in existence, but is written in a confident style, seemingly by someone who was very comfortable with it. In 2004 there were some compelling arguments which described a technique that would seemingly prove that the manuscript was a hoax, but to date, none of the described techniques have been able to replicate a single section of the Manuscript, so speculations continue. More information about the hoax possibility is here and more information about the Manuscript can be found at and

Edit to add this link to a PDF of this Manuscript

[edit on 1-7-2010 by Max_TO]

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 12:27 AM
reply to post by Max_TO

There are probably a lot more than you think. I will list a few here for you to check out if you really want to give them a shot.

The Beale Papers - Want to find a treasure?

A few of the Zodiac killers letters are yet to be undeciphered

Linear A

The Phaistos Disk

Indus Script

Rohonc Codex

Voynich Manuscript

Those should get you started =) There are also a ton of ancient languages that we still have not figured out how to translate as well. I wish you the best of luck!


[edit on 1-7-2010 by Druidae]

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 12:27 AM
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander

Thanks for that , looking it over now

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 02:42 AM
link here's loads

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 02:43 AM
also language of easter island - rongorongo

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