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Wich country in your opinion has the best weapons?

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posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 11:11 AM
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Depends what kind of weapons we're discussing. No one has complete superiority in all areas.

The USA has the best Aircraft overall. They have the most capable avionics and the most advanced hardware. Time and time again they have proven this by their ability to quickly gain and then maintain air superiority on combat.

Guns and battlefeild weapons: in the area of low tech weapons the Russian weapons have a reputation for being more reliable and sturdier than their US counter parts.

Missiles: both sides have some fearsom missiles, so it's hard to say.

Thats my take on the situation.

Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance




posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 12:19 PM
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I would say Russia has better missles. They have destructive long range missles. Like the new one they relaessed in I think March. Forgot the name.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by WestPoint23
Ivan Oh yeah their military is built for fighting yeah right. how many men did the us loose in world war2 400.000 russia lost 20.000.000+ and i doubt much has changed now their uniform weapons training still sucks.


K noob let me tell you something.

First US was not fully into the WW2. They started at the end and didnt send there whole army to the front lines.

Second is that Russia was threatened to be over run by Germans so they had to throw all they had at the Germans to stop them.

Third is that Russia was fight by it self from the east while US had hella allies fighting with them so they can spit their causalities.

Out,
Russian



The us got into WW2 late the us entered ww2 in december 7 1941 and russia was invaded in june 1941 you call 6 months during the end. When ww2 ended in 1945 do your reasearch before u talk!



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 01:01 PM
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Read The Link! Oh and u dont call 16.000.000 their whole army and 400.000 is the total casualty for bboth fronts pacific and atlantic russia only had one front.

Natzi Germany

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[edit on 15-6-2004 by WestPoint23]



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 02:46 PM
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What crap have you been reading!?!?!?!?!?! I was raised around Russians! I speak Russian! Ieat Russian food! I lived in country once part of the U.S.S.R.! I know alsmost everything there is to know about Russia! The Soviet Uinon was invaded in June 1940 at 3 AM in the morning! Russia lost more than 30,000,000 people. While Russian men were dying, and Russian people were straving, and all of Europe was being Fecked up by those as$hole NAZI's and that as$hole Hitler the U.S. was making refrigirattors! Not helping Europe!
. The U.S. came in to Europe in 1944 to help defeat Hitler! The only reason they did it was because Russian soldeirs were moving really fast throught Europe that all the countries they liberrated were communist. Americans had to do something to stop it. They went into Europe to Stop Communism! The little war with Japan was nothing compared to what happend in Europe. They dropped an Atomic bomb on Japan instead of fighting! The U.S. military are show offs! They are made to show off. Russian military is built to fight! Russia lost over 30,000,000 people! 30,000,000 people! Thousands missing! One of my relatives from the war was missing! The U.S. did damn little to help Europe thats why the Russians hated the Americans!
. So dont go off, and says bull$hit about Russia!



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 03:28 PM
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Settle down man. 17 September 1939 Russian forces invade Poland and make a treaty with Germany. Think Polish people liked that? 30 November 1939 Russian troops invade Finland. Russia= 500,000 men Finland= 14,000 men yet Finland stops the Russian offensive. Finland eventually surrenders.


the U.S. was making refrigirattors! Not helping Europe!


At least the USA didn't attack Europe. I guess you forgot that part.

Back on topic, I would say USA simply because of $$$. Plus all sorts of secret weapons we must *cough* stealth battleships *cough* have. The US doesnt have as much manpower as some countries but a simple draft would create a large heavily armed army.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 03:37 PM
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Well the U.S. is not the only country that has an advanced navy, and airforce. I hate it when people assume that! Many countries have an airforce, and a navy. Russia has much better naval technologies, and airforce technologies. Maybe they arent being made now but the plans for them are charted down, and hidden.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 04:32 PM
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the british nuclear sub fleet kicks ass
the russains and germans make great weapons 2



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 04:37 PM
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Have you gotten that desperate for points?

I do not mean to be a rude jerk off, but this thread does belong in the trash bin, there are too many "what do you think..." and "What is your favorite..." threads, and you just added two more OF THE SAME TITLE only one has the was and the Cold War.

Please try making threads with actual updates and news and about real things happening and not about other people's opinions. I have rarely seen anything that intrests me, have people just stopped posting?

Shattered OUT...



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by WestPoint23
Ivan Oh yeah their military is built for fighting yeah right. how many men did the us loose in world war2 400.000 russia lost 20.000.000+ and i doubt much has changed now their uniform weapons training still sucks.


K noob let me tell you something.

First US was not fully into the WW2. They started at the end and didnt send there whole army to the front lines.

Second is that Russia was threatened to be over run by Germans so they had to throw all they had at the Germans to stop them.

Third is that Russia was fight by it self from the east while US had hella allies fighting with them so they can spit their causalities.

Out,
Russian



The us got into WW2 late the us entered ww2 in december 7 1941 and russia was invaded in june 1941 you call 6 months during the end. When ww2 ended in 1945 do your reasearch before u talk!

It's called respect, have respect for Russian, he has been here longer than you, and knows alot more than you, I would know, last time I challenged him, I lost.

You are not that smart, because Russia was invaded before America entered the war, and YES 6 MONTHS is a long time when it comes to fighting, you imagine being in the middle of a battle field waiting 6-12 months for the newest reinforcements.

Shattered OUT...

P.S. and no, you will not get a warm welcome, instead I'll say this, Do not act like you know it all, you clearly do not, I admit, I'm not a genious, I just know what I study, so instead of you acting all big and crap, how about you open up a text book and read the chapter on WW2, you'll find alot of things you did not know(like what happened the entire time).

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posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Have you gotten that desperate for points?

I do not mean to be a rude jerk off, but this thread does belong in the trash bin, there are too many "what do you think..." and "What is your favorite..." threads, and you just added two more OF THE SAME TITLE only one has the was and the Cold War.

Please try making threads with actual updates and news and about real things happening and not about other people's opinions. I have rarely seen anything that intrests me, have people just stopped posting?

Shattered OUT...

No i am not desprete for points. Did you even know this is one of the 3 forums (i think) that you get the lowest amount of points to post?
. I just want people opinions on diffrent things. I would like to learn more from those poeple, becasue most liley they are older than me, and smarter.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:00 PM
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I guess i should throw in my 2 cents here. The reason why russia suffered more losses than the US in WWII is first alreay stated here russia had entered the war far eariler than the United states. The casualty count refers to everything the russians did in WWII not just their engagements with germany; meaning their invadsion of poland, finland ect ect.

Before i get to my next point can anybody tell me where the Germans Focused their Tigers and Panther tanks? I'll tell you where the eastern front. The Majority of the german forces were concentrated in the east fending off the russians so it's reasonable to state since the russians were fighiting the bulk of the german army they were going to suffer more losses. Another point of evidence is can anybody name one german offensive into the west besides the battle of the bulge?

Anyways back on topic I'd have to say the United States Military. The most impressive sight in my mind is a carrier battlegroup sitting outside your shores. Also they got Delta force, stealth bombers and the great equalizer Nukes. Nothing shuts an enemy up like making them a self-lighthing glass bottomed parking lot.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:07 PM
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na germany has the best weapons i have 2 say
hecklor and koch are world renowed and theres also that massive cannon they built but i dont have a pic



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:13 PM
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Most times its not about who has the best weapons but more often who is foolhardy enough to use them.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:14 PM
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Are you saying they HAD the best weapons? Do you mean during WW2? Or now? Germany definatyl doesnt. If it did it wouldnt loose a war with the U.S. if ever fought. They dont even have nukes! But Germany isnt that weak either.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by AD5673
Are you saying they HAD the best weapons? Do you mean during WW2? Or now? Germany definatyl doesnt. If it did it wouldnt loose a war with the U.S. if ever fought. They dont even have nukes! But Germany isnt that weak either.

no i mean they have the best rifels and such
na they had the best tech in ww2 no doubt but sheer numbers and stupid hitler
i wouldnt say that even if they have a small army they are well trained
and haveing no nukes is a good thing



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:26 PM
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can anybody name one german offensive into the west besides the battle of the bulge?

The battle of Britain.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:31 PM
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that was really just an airwar cause they couldnt get across the channel cause of the armed forces!



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:38 PM
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I'd say Russian/Germany/US.

but I'm goin' for Russia here -- AK's, duh. (i'm mainly talkiin about the AK-100 series). AN-94, RPK's, PKM's...They also have many different versions of RPG's (better than the RPG-7), Also anti-tank missles: they have the SA-18, which is suppose ta be a nasty beast. Grenade machine gun: they have the AGS-30. and i'm sure they have great tanks too...

but I think germany (HK! yah, baby) develop killer stuff. G36/K/C, and their other products. The US too for the m16 (duh) and m4's...also M249's have a reputation for being very good SAW's.

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[edit on 15-6-2004 by Sinfulcurves_AK105]



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 05:57 PM
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actually the m249 was a variant of a swiss weapon
so u cani really call it a us made weapon



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