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Warning To Gulf Volunteers: Almost Every Cleanup Worker From The 1989 Valdez Disaster Is Now Dead

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posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 06:30 AM
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I have to throw in my hat with the few who have voiced concerns about the reliability of this story. When is it acceptable to say, "Expert X says ----", as though the moniker of "expert" grants automatic trustworthiness to an individual? Is that not one of the oldest tricks of logical subterfuge? I have no idea who the woman in the video really is (and I suspect few--if any--of you know either), and it conveniently begins after she's been identified by CNN. Calling her an expert means little as an uncorroborated claim. What's with the flood of members taking her word as truth? As an aside, I find it bizarre that the interviewer continues her interview nonchalantly after that explosive assertion ("Most of the workers from Valdez are now dead."), not even taking the time to mention it. I found it so alarming that a "...pardon me?" would be the very least I would say in response, and she couldn't even muster that?

The headline of the story is questionable in itself, as has been pointed out in this thread already. But moreover, there is a problem with the veracity of the secondary claim she makes--that BP workers are not permitted to see non-BP doctors. Is the suggestion that BP workers are physically prevented from seeing non-BP doctors? Or, less dramatically, that they are fired if they seek treatment elsewhere? Am I to feel sorry for someone who would rather retain a job that is visibly, undeniably poisoning them than seek medical treatment from non-BP sources? And all of this is, of course, contingent on the idea that this secondary claim is true in the first place.

BP is poisoning the waters, I unequivocally agree. But the claims made in this video seem wholly unfounded, and are espoused by an individual I cannot consider anything remotely identifiable with the term "expert".




posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 07:36 AM
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WOW! That is some very sobering news. And the sad part is plenty of people will still do the work even if they know about this because they need the money. Most of those people they're hiring are most likely still broke and hurting from Katrina and the recession. It's disturbing to me what power the idea of money has over us.



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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Did the Exon Valdez spill ever get cleaned up? I know there were several clean up efforts, but I dont believe we have ever seen pics of the area recently or after the clean up to see if was a success or not.



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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say truly, to defend rescuing crews, in same accidents, versus all risks is impossible -- it would have been too expensive & make rescuing actions too retarded.



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by franspeakfree
I don't want to ruffle feathers here but come on.........

How come members take MSM reports as gospel when it suits their opinions?

How many times have members dissed MSM reports as propoganda and hidden agenda broadcasts, yet when it comes to something close to their opinions its gospel. IMHO this is another agenda set up to deter people from helping out with the clean up, for reasons I do not know but I am betting that money is involved somewhere.






There is something pretty big going on down there which is the reason why they are intentionally deterring people. Although I know what's going on, I am not at liberty to say for some obvious reasons. This is a definite tactic to keep people away, however, they do have a point in the fact that breathing in the fumes will be deadly to anyone willing to brave the situation.

I will say this. Things are not what they seem down there. There's a bigger issue that stands as a threat to TPTB and their stranglehold on the world. Trust me on this.

Namaste and Love



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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I DUNNO ? BP is evil and they should burn bit this just doesnt add up they arent hiding anything by allowing people to die plenty who live already know and see??

anywho Be Well




posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 01:27 PM
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Just wondering if anyone has a link to the video at the cnn.com web site instead of this YouTube clip?

I tried to find it there and couldn't find anything promising. Of course it doesn't help that I don't watch tv news so don't even know who the interviewer is or which program it was on ...

I was mostly looking to try and figure out who the person making this claim is, so if anyone knows that information it would be helpful as well



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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Wow, Glad to see this post. Anyone notice how most if not all the clean up workers hired by BP so far are refugees?



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 02:19 PM
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What do you mean refugees?

Probably some unemployed guys needed a paycheck and willing to take a dirty job. Maybe they just don't understand what they're getting into.

Refugees??



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Great info! The poor people being USED to clean up this latest mess had better begin asking themselves if the small amount of money they recieve is worth dieing over. And I don't think most die a very pretty death.



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by MemoryBomber
Great info! The poor people being USED to clean up this latest mess had better begin asking themselves if the small amount of money they recieve is worth dieing over. And I don't think most die a very pretty death.


Quite a concept, huh? Create a disaster to accelerate death, and use the plebs to clean it up. So after the masses are poisoned, they will live long enough to clean it up, therefore, leaving the perpetrator free and clear. Messed up, isn't it?



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...


[edit on 1-7-2010 by mags]



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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I agree, there should be more sources to back up the claim that oil spill clean up workers are dying young. Unfortunately, the way mass media is currently being manipulated, there is little chance we will see reasonable coverage on the issue. I am surprised to see this being put out by CNN. Has anyone looked for the CNN site that contains this video, or has anyone identified the expert making the claims?

Here is the CNN link I found.

campbellbrown.blogs.cnn.com...

Kerry Kennedy is the woman in the video. She is the daughter of Robert Kennedy, and has been a human rights advocate for most of her career.

en.wikipedia.org...

Here is something that I didn't know in a search for more information on this subject.

www.salem-news.com...


The mess brought about by disrupting Mother Nature this way, leaves behind what is increasingly becoming a "toxic soup" of oil, dangerous methane, deadly benzene, hydrogen sulfide, toxic gases, and approximately two million gallons of highly toxic dispersants that include Corexit 9500.

The methane alone, according to some experts, could turn the current oil spill into a fiery explosion that would literally devastate the entire section of the globe[4].

A methane bubble identified beneath the ocean floor, near the spill point, could lead to a situation that would, according to Richard C Hoagland, celebrity of the science world; author and radio host, resemble an underwater Mount Saint Helens explosion[5].

In essence, the Deepwater Horizon site is on top of an underwater volcano with magma near the surface constantly rising and falling. Hoagland, whose theory is backed by experts like Dr. William Deagle, says if this worst case scenario takes place, it will generate a massive tidal wave that will travel at a speed of 400-600 miles an hour, right over the top of Florida, which has an elevation above sea level of approximately 100 feet[6].



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by monkeySEEmonkeyDO

Warning To Gulf Volunteers: Almost Every Cleanup Worker From The 1989 Exxon Valdez Disaster Is Now Dead


ww w.businessinsider.com


Are you sure that you want to help clean up the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico? In a previous article we documented a number of the health dangers from this oil spill that many scientists are warning us of, and now it has been reported on CNN that the vast majority of those who worked to clean up the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska are now dead. Yes, you read that correctly. Almost all of them are dead.

(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 30-6-2010 by monkeySEEmonkeyDO]


No offense but this BS. There were more than 11000 cleanup workers on the Valdez. There was just a congressional study that said 3000 or so of those cleanup workers are probably suffering from respiratory problems. www.adn.com...

No offense but if "Almost all" of them were dead we would have seen a class action suit. And none was filed, ever.

And the fact that the CNN video footage and article isn't on the CNN website leads me to believe its hoaxed.

People believe whatever they want. This proves it. Sheeple. A little bit of research would have shown you this is not true at all. See you don't want to believe the MSM but you believe everything on here. And you'd think the threadstarter would have put a smidge of research into this before perpetuation the hoax.

Don't beleive anything without researching it yourself.

[edit on 1-7-2010 by DrJay1975]



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 06:01 PM
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ur post is total
bs
hey were sued but no money was available
also source for ur statement please

[edit on 1-7-2010 by icecold7]



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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DATE: July 01, 2010 19:23:09 CST

Use Of Respirators for Responders
www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com...


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Based on air monitoring data collected to date, exposures to hydrocarbons, dispersants and other hazardous chemicals are below established occupational exposure limits. In most situations that have been examined to date, mandatory wearing of respirators is not required.

That said, respirators will be provided to response workers engaged in the source control activities and for vessels involved in burning crude oil. These respirators are provided as part of a comprehensive respiratory protection program. Respirators only need to be worn when air-monitoring results indicate an elevated level of air contaminants, or when professional judgment determines there is potential exposure, or when workers are reporting health effects or symptoms.

Even when comprehensive and routine air monitoring indicates that no inhalational hazard exists, an employer may permit respiratory protection to be worn voluntarily by employees provided it will not in itself create a hazard. At this time, where air monitoring does not indicate a need, respirator use is voluntary and not recommended.

The only situation where voluntary use may be helpful is when an individual is bothered by non-hazardous levels of hydrocarbon odor and cannot be relocated to another work area. In that case, a carbon-impregnated odor-reduction filtering facepiece respirator may provide some odor reduction potential—and can be worn voluntarily without the employer having to implement a respiratory protection program. These types of respirators do not provide health protective effects; they only provide odor reduction.

Wearing any respirator will have adverse effects on breathing, vision and communication, will result in some discomfort, and may cause additional physiological stress. Wearing respirators, protective clothing, and other forms of PPE in hot environments can accelerate the onset of heat stress and exhaustion. Responders using any form of PPE, particularly dermal PPE, should be monitored for signs of heat stress, and take heat stress precautions (i.e., water, shade, rest) as needed.


I see they are changing their tune....


[edit on 7/1/2010 by Hx3_1963]



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 08:56 PM
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I'm a drag-racer...

I'm usually covered in oil...at least 3-4 times a week.

How can an auto-motive mechanic survive..every day dealing with oil.

am I missing something??



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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I thought black men had big kahunas? Where is Obamas kahunas? He should declare this a state of emergency and say that if anyone feels unsafe during the cleanup they can take what ever precaution they feel is needed.. 40 hours for a respirator fit test is unreal.

Why does there have to be so much bureaucracy and red tape at a time when lives are at stake?

Show the people how to put the respirator on and let it go at that.. even a poorly fitting respirator has to be better than nothing !!!



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by wrathchild
I'm a drag-racer...

I'm usually covered in oil...at least 3-4 times a week.

How can an auto-motive mechanic survive..every day dealing with oil.

am I missing something??


Yeah your missing a lot.

This is not 'clean' processed oil.. this is crude that has lots of chemicals mixed in with it from the earth, not to mention all the chemicals that BP added to the oil. It' not the same stuff regular people deal with at all.



posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by SneakAPeek
Wow, Glad to see this post. Anyone notice how most if not all the clean up workers hired by BP so far are refugees?


Do you mean they are Illegal Aliens? Illegals should not be there because, 1) they are illegal and 2) BP may be exploiting them.

If so.. this is just worse and worse. If you mean people who lost their jobs due to the oil leak, I think i have seen videos of some of them saying they had to feed their families somehow.



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