Originally posted by Novise
Well first of all you sound very interesting! Welcome to the forums and on any topic of your interest you will be sure to find opinions from across the spectrum here. I do not think Scientology and Dianetics are bad on their own, what's bad is the the cult/church ruining people's lives with extortion, and the bookstore/welcome centers scamming people out of their life savings.
I am interested in your dreaming, I would assume you are a lucid dreamer? I am confused on why it costed you money to advance the OT levels if you weren't involved in the church but had an individual teacher.
Hello Novise,
Thank you for being able to separate the harmful actions of people immersed in a bureaucratic institution from the pure pursuit of confronting a reactive mind.
I do not generally control my dreams, but am generally aware that I am dreaming while I am dreaming. I was doing this prior to scientology processing, so I do not credit my lucid dreaming experiences to it. My first experiences with lucid dreaming were in high school while experimenting with dream journals and “HemiSync” cassette tapes from the Monroe Institute. However, I did notice a correlation between my increasing clarity with which I saw myself and others in waking life, and the range of choices I consider when making decisions within my dreams.
Regarding why running scientology levels cost me money away from the church, it is because services cost money. Car mechanics, lawyers, and plumbers charge for their time also. I simply paid someone for the hundreds of hours of proficient technical service they provided me. Since my own experience is related to the original scientology research line of the 1950s and 1960s rather than the personality cult based on the words of Hubbard, I will not speak for the Church of Scientology. However, I will define the concepts of “clear” and “exteriorization” as they pertain to my own experience.
Being “clear” on something simply means that one sees what it is without distorting associations. Technically, being “clear” on something means that placing attention on it does not illicit any arousal of the autonomic nervous system. Clearing practitioners utilize any number of varying biofeedback devices (e.g. E-meters, Clarity Meters, GSR meters, etc.) to detect even slight levels of reactive thought—often unconscious—and “process through” any associations preventing an unbiased assessment of what clients are looking at. Think of the “clear” button on a calculator; whereas entering in a computation with contents already in its stored memory yields erroneous answers, a calculator “cleared” of its previous entries will yield the correct result.
As Juno Lucina writes in The Kingdom Within Tarot, “Innocence is a faculty, an ability that we can all choose to employ at any time that we are able to escape from our preconceptions…correctly perceiving the nature of the object without bias and clearly seeing whatever is presented.” What members in the Church of Scientology do not seem willing to communicate or confront is that we are each already clear on certain subjects. Sure, there are certain common denominators, certain ways in which most of us are wound up (e.g. right vs. wrong, problems, help, change, power, etc.), but this doesn’t mean that everyone is “wound up” the same. A ball of yarn only untangles one way, so there is no room for feeding clients conclusions or enforcing doctrine in correctly-applied scientology tech. Rather, clearing practitioners merely direct their clients’ attention toward areas exciting their “fight or flight” response, to the end of freeing man from the distortions of his reactive mind.
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J.F.
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