the guy doesnt do anything to "educate" the people, he does things to fatten his wallet. i'm surprised you havent pounded him for that, but then again he isnt a republican therefore he can do no wrong in your eyes.

Amen to that. How many poor saps is Mr. Moore giving his "hard earned" money to out of the goodness of his heart? Probably not many. Granted, his hatred of Bush and co is probably genuine, but there's no way he's just out there to spread his propaganda. He knows that making a big stink out of this will make him moore money.

He's almost as bad as the "Bush crime family" in my eyes. You hardly know if what you're hearing is even truth. It's all part of an agenda. Whether it's Bush's or Moore's, all you're hearing is information spread by people with a certain agenda. I dont know if everything Moore tells me is true, and I really have no reason to beleive any of it is true. He's been known to cut, paste, and edit things to put different slants on how the story truly goes.

EDIT: Just so you know, I plan on seeing this movie. Hopefully if it's released near me. I'm not a fan of Bush, and I'm not sticking up for anyone. I'm sure the film will be funny and somewhat educational, I can't wait to see it.

[edit on 14-6-2004 by Faisca]

Teens are banned? That's not right. I mean, really. I can understand the attempt to shield teens from the dubious twists of truth and outright lies that flow from that idiots mind unto the screen, but banning teens is not the way to handle it. Making the theaters display this notice in front of the theater as well as on the screen just before the movie would be good enough:

WARNING! THIS MOVIE IS PURELY A WORK OF FICTION, CREATED BY AMERICA-HATERS IN THE HOPE THAT THE AUDIENCE WILL BELIEVE THIS DRIVEL TO BE THE TRUTH AND WILL JOIN THE ARMY OF FILTHY-RICH MOVIE STARS, STUPID LIBERAL LAWYERS AND A FEW AVERAGE JOE'S WITH LITTLE TO KNOW KNOWLEDGE, HELP THE WASHINGTON DEMOCRATS STEAL THE NATION, BAN THE CONSTITUTION AND INSURE THAT MORALITY IS REPLACED WITH THE DESIRES OF THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

Anyone who believes anything Moore writes or produces after he has already proven himself to be the consumate liberal propagandist, thoroughly adored throughout the America-hating world, should really stop and look at his followers, the group in which they are putting themselves.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
WARNING! THIS MOVIE IS PURELY A WORK OF FICTION, CREATED BY AMERICA-HATERS IN THE HOPE THAT THE AUDIENCE WILL BELIEVE THIS DRIVEL TO BE THE TRUTH AND WILL JOIN THE ARMY OF FILTHY-RICH MOVIE STARS, STUPID LIBERAL LAWYERS AND A FEW AVERAGE JOE'S WITH LITTLE TO KNOW KNOWLEDGE, HELP THE WASHINGTON DEMOCRATS STEAL THE NATION, BAN THE CONSTITUTION AND INSURE THAT MORALITY IS REPLACED WITH THE DESIRES OF THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

Couldn't have wrote that disclaimer better myself. That's hittin the nail on the head.

[edit on 14-6-2004 by Faisca]

Originally posted by Faisca

the guy doesnt do anything to "educate" the people, he does things to fatten his wallet. i'm surprised you havent pounded him for that, but then again he isnt a republican therefore he can do no wrong in your eyes.

Amen to that. How many poor saps is Mr. Moore giving his "hard earned" money to out of the goodness of his heart? Probably not many. Granted, his hatred of Bush and co is probably genuine, but there's no way he's just out there to spread his propaganda. He knows that making a big stink out of this will make him moore money.

He's almost as bad as the "Bush crime family" in my eyes. You hardly know if what you're hearing is even truth. It's all part of an agenda. Whether it's Bush's or Moore's, all you're hearing is information spread by people with a certain agenda. I dont know if everything Moore tells me is true, and I really have no reason to beleive any of it is true. He's been known to cut, paste, and edit things to put different slants on how the story truly goes.

EDIT: Just so you know, I plan on seeing this movie. Hopefully if it's released near me. I'm not a fan of Bush, and I'm not sticking up for anyone. I'm sure the film will be funny and somewhat educational, I can't wait to see it.

[edit on 14-6-2004 by Faisca]

i actually asked once on another board if moore ever had ever given any money to charity or anything similar to charity compared to bush or cheney. the answer was revealing. at the time i posed this question noone found anything on the internet that said moore gave any money to charity while they did find things that said bush and cheney gave. tax writes off or not i found it striking noone could find anything on moore giving money to charity.

this was based purely on internet findings and this isnt to say moore doesnt give but if he does he keeps its well hidden. which wouldnt make any sense to me. for a guy who claims to be for the people you'd think he'd make it well known that he loves his fellow man by giving his own money to them. right? it does make sense since he loves to promote himself and his products as if he were don king.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
WARNING! THIS MOVIE IS PURELY A WORK OF FICTION, CREATED BY AMERICA-HATERS IN THE HOPE THAT THE AUDIENCE WILL BELIEVE THIS DRIVEL TO BE THE TRUTH AND WILL JOIN THE ARMY OF FILTHY-RICH MOVIE STARS, STUPID LIBERAL LAWYERS AND A FEW AVERAGE JOE'S WITH LITTLE TO KNOW KNOWLEDGE, HELP THE WASHINGTON DEMOCRATS STEAL THE NATION, BAN THE CONSTITUTION AND INSURE THAT MORALITY IS REPLACED WITH THE DESIRES OF THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

oh, look, its the RETURN OF THE FACIST. People of the world, I want you to see why America is as down-trodden as it is today. Look at who America is populated with. Does this look like a freedom loving patriot to you or a future goose-stepping brownshirt NAZI?

Moore conducted interviews with soldiers in Iraq and the families of dead soldiers b/c of Iraq which is in the movie but this "American" says that this film has been "CREATED BY AMERICA-HATERS IN THE HOPE THAT THE AUDIENCE WILL BELIEVE THIS DRIVEL."

Who is really the America hater here?

[edit on 14-6-2004 by Colonel]

Originally posted by Faisca

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
WARNING! THIS MOVIE IS PURELY A WORK OF FICTION, CREATED BY AMERICA-HATERS IN THE HOPE THAT THE AUDIENCE WILL BELIEVE THIS DRIVEL TO BE THE TRUTH AND WILL JOIN THE ARMY OF FILTHY-RICH MOVIE STARS, STUPID LIBERAL LAWYERS AND A FEW AVERAGE JOE'S WITH LITTLE TO KNOW KNOWLEDGE, HELP THE WASHINGTON DEMOCRATS STEAL THE NATION, BAN THE CONSTITUTION AND INSURE THAT MORALITY IS REPLACED WITH THE DESIRES OF THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

Couldn't have wrote that disclaimer better myself. That's hittin the nail on the head.

[edit on 14-6-2004 by Faisca]

This is from the same person that just said:

"EDIT: Just so you know, I plan on seeing this movie. Hopefully if it's released near me. I'm not a fan of Bush, and I'm not sticking up for anyone. I'm sure the film will be funny and somewhat educational, I can't wait to see it. "

People, never trust a republican, ok?

Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
WARNING! THIS MOVIE IS PURELY A WORK OF FICTION, CREATED BY AMERICA-HATERS IN THE HOPE THAT THE AUDIENCE WILL BELIEVE THIS DRIVEL TO BE THE TRUTH AND WILL JOIN THE ARMY OF FILTHY-RICH MOVIE STARS, STUPID LIBERAL LAWYERS AND A FEW AVERAGE JOE'S WITH LITTLE TO KNOW KNOWLEDGE, HELP THE WASHINGTON DEMOCRATS STEAL THE NATION, BAN THE CONSTITUTION AND INSURE THAT MORALITY IS REPLACED WITH THE DESIRES OF THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

oh, look, its the RETURN OF THE FACIST. People of the world, I want you to see why America is as down-trodden as it is today. Look at who America is populated with. Does this look like a freedom loving patriot to you or a future goose-stepping brownshirt NAZI?

Moore conducted interviews with soldiers in Iraq and the families of dead soldiers b/c of Iraq which is in the movie but this "American" says that this film has been "CREATED BY AMERICA-HATERS IN THE HOPE THAT THE AUDIENCE WILL BELIEVE THIS DRIVEL."

Who is really the America hater here?

[edit on 14-6-2004 by Colonel]

You won't be calling me a Fascist again. I am quoting this so that you cannot edit history, much like Moore does.

Hey, look I got a warning for posing a question a sto whether TC is a freedom loving American or a facist. You decide.

Originally posted by Colonel
This is from the same person that just said:

"EDIT: Just so you know, I plan on seeing this movie. Hopefully if it's released near me. I'm not a fan of Bush, and I'm not sticking up for anyone. I'm sure the film will be funny and somewhat educational, I can't wait to see it. "

People, never trust a republican, ok?

#1. I'm not a republican, if anything, I'm a libertarian. But really I'm right in the middle, with an open mind.
#2. Just because I agree with TC does not mean anything about my plans to see the movie. I plan to see the movie, it looks interesting. I probably won't agree with any of it, but because I have an open mind and I'm a student of politics I think it would be good for me to see the film.
#3. Don't make ignorant statements about people (i.e. me) when you have no idea about their political beleifs (you assume I'm republican, when in fact, I really don't care much for republicans.)
#4. You do a good job of skirting around issues, don't you? You ignored the question I brought up about Moore only being concerned with making a buck, and instead decided to make personal attacks on myself and TC. Why bring ignorant personal attacks into something like this? The questions about Moore deserve to be taken into question, my political beliefs on the other hand do not.

Originally posted by Colonel
Hey, look I got a warning for posing a question a sto whether TC is a freedom loving American or a facist. You decide.

let me remind you of something colonel...the rules here have changed.


and read carefully

Your are viewing a thread in the AboveTopSecret.com Political Mud Pit.

The nature of the Mud-Pit is to encourage heated political discussion and debate on topics that are often argued with intense passion. The rules of conduct are somewhat relaxed in the Mud-Pit, however, personal attacks and insults are not tolerated. If you engage in attacks and insults, your access to the Mud-Pit may be removed.

you attacked him by calling him a fascist. you got a warn for it, deal with it.

you also might want to review the conditions of use on this board. you need a refresher.

As far as your swipe against Fascia, "Colonel", just because one does not support Bush does not mean that one immediately support someone even worse, nor does it mean that one supports lies if the lies are against Bush.

By the way, "Colonel", Moore can also interview many, many more soldiers and family members that do not hold the same opinion, or have the same thoughts. Moore has already proven himself to be a liar and a propaganda artist. Read his books, watch his movies, enjoy yourself. You know he lies, you just prefer a lie over the truth if it supports your end goal. What does that make you?

No. You got a warning for calling me a Fascist, plain and simple. One more step and you'll be banned, simple as that. You have been allowed more rope than any other poster here, that is long past, now. Act like a decent human or find another sandbox to crap in.

Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey

Originally posted by Colonel
Hey, look I got a warning for posing a question a sto whether TC is a freedom loving American or a facist. You decide.

let me remind you of something colonel...the rules here have changed.


and read carefully

Your are viewing a thread in the AboveTopSecret.com Political Mud Pit.

The nature of the Mud-Pit is to encourage heated political discussion and debate on topics that are often argued with intense passion. The rules of conduct are somewhat relaxed in the Mud-Pit, however, personal attacks and insults are not tolerated. If you engage in attacks and insults, your access to the Mud-Pit may be removed.

you attacked him by calling him a fascist. you got a warn for it, deal with it.

you also might want to review the conditions of use on this board. you need a refresher.

Is there a problem in your private life, PM? Come, talk to us. We're here to help. I mean, I think TC is quite capable of handling his own affairs with our butting in but you seem obssessed with it wwhen it concerns me.

BTW, board stalking is also agianst the rules too, PM. Hope you don't cross that line.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
No. You got a warning for calling me a Fascist, plain and simple. One more step and you'll be banned, simple as that. You have been allowed more rope than any other poster here, that is long past, now. Act like a decent human or find another sandbox to crap in.

But, I guess its ok, fot you to call me this:

Anyone who believes anything Moore writes or produces after he has already proven himself to be the consumate liberal propagandist, thoroughly adored throughout the America-hating world, should really stop and look at his followers, the group in which they are putting themselves.

i'm a moderator of this forum. dont like it? leave. its my job to watch this forum and make sure people dont get out of line.

and feel free to use the complaint button. use it all day long if you like.

Why should anyone here use it if it doesn't work?

Who else would like to see Colonel's answer to the questions posed about Moore's integrity? I sure would, but oh well. Not all prayers can be answered...

Maybe if YOU asked the question, Faisca, than I'll answer it.

Originally posted by Colonel
Maybe if YOU asked the question, Faisca, than I'll answer it.

I'll pose it again for you...

Amen to that. How many poor saps is Mr. Moore giving his "hard earned" money to out of the goodness of his heart? Probably not many. Granted, his hatred of Bush and co is probably genuine, but there's no way he's just out there to spread his propaganda. He knows that making a big stink out of this will make him moore money.

He's almost as bad as the "Bush crime family" in my eyes. You hardly know if what you're hearing is even truth. It's all part of an agenda. Whether it's Bush's or Moore's, all you're hearing is information spread by people with a certain agenda. I dont know if everything Moore tells me is true, and I really have no reason to beleive any of it is true. He's been known to cut, paste, and edit things to put different slants on how the story truly goes.

I had proposed the question and criticisms, but it went ignored and unanswered. So there it is for you again...

If you don't know know the difference between you calling me a Fascist and me stating that Moore is a propagandist (which is obviously a correct statement) and that if one believes what he says one should look at the small and particular company with which one places himself, you need more than a warn, you are in dire need of a reading comprehension course. Or, maybe you are like me and need to take the time to get new glasses.

Regardless. Step out of line and you're whacked. Attempt to tell a mod his business again like you just tried with Prnakmonkey, you're whacked. Furthermore, you know that the complaint forum works just as good as the information put in.